Nico Rosberg retires from F1Formula 1

[Dodzzz]

"I never give up, so if I'd finished second I would have gone for another year, for sure. Definitely," he said after receiving his trophy on stage at the Hofburg palace in Vienna.

( http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18192474/stayed-lost-title )

He said it himself.

For me it's clearly not about his family, it's about the trophy.

Lewis was right, (the reason he quit) is because it's the first time he won it in 18 years.

It's just like when you're playing a PlayStation game with your best buddy, but he always loses to you, for years. He tried and tried, so when he finally beats you, he then quit.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

( http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18192474/stayed-lost-title )

He said it himself.

For me it's clearly not about his family, it's about the trophy.

Lewis was right, (the reason he quit) is because it's the first time he won it in 18 years.

It's just like when you're playing a PlayStation game with your best buddy, but he always loses to you, for years. He tried and tried, so when he finally beats you, he then quit.

See this is the trouble I've always had with Nico, he seems to be a more politician type driver and says things to media that then seem to step over each other. He tends to not be as outright as others. However, I still believe it's about family for him to a degree. His goal was always to win a WDC and perhaps beat Lewis, but I doubt him quitting in general has anything to do with Hamilton. He wanted to win the trophy sure who wouldn't as an F1 driver, and yes it was about that, once he had it that's all he needed to confirm he was one of the best. After that why continue he's already proven it, anything after would be taking away from his immediate family (wife and kids), and how would that be fair to them in his eyes? He achieved his dream, his family put him first and helped him get to his ultimate goal, it doesn't matter who he was racing in the sister car.

Now sure it just so happens to be Lewis Hamilton, a long time rival and once best friend. And media has played it up to be a "me vs him" type thing, rather than a Rosberg fighting against all. Lewis's comment has nothing to do with the general reason Rosberg quit, his comment and Rosberg saying it has to do with Media continuing to ask the questions about their personal rivalry. But the Sport is greater than those two fighting and the sport is the context Rosberg's retirement should be put in. Not the "well he quit cause he knew he wouldn't ever beat Lewis again", that argument seems quite petty.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

See this is the trouble I've always had with Nico, he seems to be a more politician type driver and says things to media that then seem to step over each other. He tends to not be as outright as others.

I remember reading a really good article by James Allen on the way Hamilton and Rosberg handled the pressure of the 2014 title fight. He argued quite convincingly that Rosberg was being too clever for his own good, to the point where it started being a distraction. According to the article, Rosberg would give interviews after each race in English and German. He would say the same thing to both journalists, but when he was talking to the British press, he would slouch his shoulders and pout; when he was talking with the German media, he'd stand up to his full height and generally be brimming with confidence - in other words, showing both exactly what they wanted to see. Allen argued that Rosberg got caught up playing the game and lost focus on the track.

 

[Dotini]

I remember reading a really good article by James Allen on the way Hamilton and Rosberg handled the pressure of the 2014 title fight. He argued quite convincingly that Rosberg was being too clever for his own good, to the point where it started being a distraction. According to the article, Rosberg would give interviews after each race in English and German. He would say the same thing to both journalists, but when he was talking to the British press, he would slouch his shoulders and pout; when he was talking with the German media, he'd stand up to his full height and generally be brimming with confidence - in other words, showing both exactly what they wanted to see. Allen argued that Rosberg got caught up playing the game and lost focus on the track.

Arguably Nico is more complicated than most professional F1 race car drivers. These days they are usually raised on karts and so on from a very early age, and are somewhat one-dimensional in terms of well-rounded persons with a variety of other strong interests in life.

 

[Hun200kmh]

The fact that Lewis is unable to avoid a dig means just that he is still butt hurt about losing this championship. Not unexpected.

 

[TheElbows]

I can't say I'm disappointed. I don't dislike Rosberg but I don't think he's anything special (doesn't add much character to the sport, has no quirks or flaws which make him entertaining/interesting). He's exceptionally milquetoast as far as being an interesting driver. So to see a top flight seat open up in one of the most changing seasons in recent history...it's just icing on the cake.

So we have:
-Button out, Massa out, Rosberg out
-Ron Dennis gone from McLaren
-A bunch of new young drivers
-A ton of driver swaps and firings
-New specs including tires/wings/aero...and more power (I think)
-New owners which means even more change in the next few years

Next season could turn out to be fantastic. I guess it's fitting that there's no German GP planned for next year.

 

[ScottPuss20]

See this is the trouble I've always had with Nico, he seems to be a more politician type driver and says things to media that then seem to step over each other. He tends to not be as outright as others. However, I still believe it's about family for him to a degree. His goal was always to win a WDC and perhaps beat Lewis, but I doubt him quitting in general has anything to do with Hamilton. He wanted to win the trophy sure who wouldn't as an F1 driver, and yes it was about that, once he had it that's all he needed to confirm he was one of the best. After that why continue he's already proven it, anything after would be taking away from his immediate family (wife and kids), and how would that be fair to them in his eyes? He achieved his dream, his family put him first and helped him get to his ultimate goal, it doesn't matter who he was racing in the sister car.

Now sure it just so happens to be Lewis Hamilton, a long time rival and once best friend. And media has played it up to be a "me vs him" type thing, rather than a Rosberg fighting against all. Lewis's comment has nothing to do with the general reason Rosberg quit, his comment and Rosberg saying it has to do with Media continuing to ask the questions about their personal rivalry. But the Sport is greater than those two fighting and the sport is the context Rosberg's retirement should be put in. Not the "well he quit cause he knew he wouldn't ever beat Lewis again", that argument seems quite petty.

Yeah but retiring from whatever sport to have more "family time" is such a cliche. I also believe that Rosberg retired as a result of the politics between Hamilton; I honestly think that he had enough with all the bull bull in the team garage. Why would you stay in a situation that made you feel uncomfortable?

 

[Carlos]

Yeah but retiring from whatever sport to have more "family time" is such a cliche. I also believe that Rosberg retired as a result of the politics between Hamilton; I honestly think that he had enough with all the bull bull in the team garage. Why would you stay in a situation that made you feel uncomfortable?

Because you want to win, and it seems that is not the case with Rosberg anymore. He probably had enough reasons to leave (like those politics) but one very good one to stay which now seems invalid to him.

 

[trustjab]

The fact that Lewis is unable to avoid a dig means just that he is still butt hurt about losing this championship. Not unexpected.

It wasn't really a dig. He was asked about their rivalry, not Nico's entire career. He responded to the question with near the same statement as Rosberg said about it.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah but retiring from whatever sport to have more "family time" is such a cliche. I also believe that Rosberg retired as a result of the politics between Hamilton; I honestly think that he had enough with all the bull bull in the team garage. Why would you stay in a situation that made you feel uncomfortable?

Is it really, have you ever been in a position where you've had to sacrifice your families time to achieve a goal, or supported someone else. And I mean really be invested to the point where you go and do what you're trying to accomplish and then come home and hardly see the family, but they support you to meet your ends.

Also what situation made him uncomfortable, they both were divas fighting for the same piece of land. Only one of them could win. I find it strange that people want to pin this on Hamilton or Mercedes, rather than take the man for his word. I mean you can't have what you want to justify an agenda unless there is sufficient evidence. Also "cliche", this isn't a teenage drama where you don't like the main plot device.

 

[McLaren]

The fact that Lewis is unable to avoid a dig means just that he is still butt hurt about losing this championship. Not unexpected.

Yes, the butt hurt is quite real.

*included picture of them in their earliest days together*
We said we'd be champions back then, now we both are! Congratulations Nico, you did everything a champion needed to do. Well deserved

 

[Hun200kmh]

You may bold that one at your heart's content if you think that tweet means something . But let me tell bold this one for you too:

Q. Lewis you've had so many battles with Nico Rosberg over the years, not only in Formula One, but we go back to karting and ... will you miss that rivalry?

Lewis. Ahh ... I mean this is the first time he's won in 18 years, so ... hmmm ... hence why it wasn't a surprise that he decided to stop .....


After this, he replied to the question. Something about that "of course he would miss that rivalry".


Obviously not a dig. Obvioulsy not butt hurt.




If you want class, and grace, look elsewhere. Maybe ... Rosberg? This was probably his last interview before announcing his retirement. And the guy did great.

 

[McLaren]

You may bold that one at your heart's content if you think that tweet means something . But let me tell bold this one for you too:

I did not bold that deliberately & it was not from a Tweet. For someone so butt hurt, his Instagram would say otherwise.

Your post has already been shown by another to have been purposely conveyed as something else.

Some people really read into things. The question posed to Lewis was speaking about their rivalry. The 'first time he won in 18 years' isn't something Lewis alone has come up with. Rosberg said it himself. But only get upset at Lewis about saying it, though These guys are people like any one of us. Why some get so caught up in their words is beyond me.

 

[Hun200kmh]

No, my post was not shown by another to have been anything. Another has expressed his opinion on the matter, as I have now. Indeed the question was about missing a rivalry now that the supposed "rival" is bowing out. And the first thing that Lewis thought appropriate to say is that this was the first time the rival won in 18 years.

Now, maybe this is a cultural issue and something got lost in translation, but the way I learned about acting graceful would command me to start a reply (under similar circumstances) with a different kind of sentence.

Then again I'm not sure about this having anything to do with any cultural diferences between countries, a good friend from the US that happens to be an F1 fan and a Lewis admirer texted me that Lewis acted as an ass. So I figured that his lack of grace with that remark was universally apparent.

 

[McLaren]

No, my post was not shown by another to have been anything. Another has expressed his opinion on the matter, as I have now. Indeed the question was about missing a rivalry now that the supposed "rival" is bowing out. And the first thing that Lewis thought appropriate to say is that this was the first time the rival won in 18 years.

Now, maybe this is a cultural issue and something got lost in translation, but the way I learned about acting graceful would command me to start a reply (under similar circumstances) with a different kind of sentence.

So, wait. Lewis should have been acting graceful by responding in a different the way to the question, the way you learned to be graceful.

What's graceful about calling someone butt hurt about losing the championship?

The fact that Lewis is unable to avoid a dig means just that he is still butt hurt about losing this championship. Not unexpected.

As trustjab pointed out, Rosberg shared the same answer as Lewis as well....

 

[Hun200kmh]

I see you don't get what I am saying. First off, "graceful" in this context is about one's behaviour after a defeat. Hardly applies to my criticism. But do as you please.

I am both criticizing Lewis and saying what I think is the reason for his behaviour. "Butt hurt" in this context means that what I get from his behaviour is that he isn't over his defeat and can't act properly yet with anything related to it (in this case, with the one that inflicted such defeat upon him).

About Rosberg mentioning that Lewis beat him for 18 years (I missed it but I trust you wouldn't mention it if it wasn't true), I guess that just shows how differently they are acting and reacting to the way this championship has ended.

 

[McLaren]

I see you don't get what I am saying. First off, "graceful" in this context is about one's behaviour after a defeat. Hardly applies to my criticism. But do as you please.

I am both criticizing Lewis and saying what I think is the reason for his behaviour. "Butt hurt" in this context means that what I get from his behaviour is that he isn't over his defeat and can't act properly yet with anything related to it (in this case, with the one that inflicted such defeat upon him).

About Rosberg mentioning that Lewis beat him for 18 years (I missed it but I trust you wouldn't mention it if it wasn't true), I guess that just shows how differently they are acting and reacting to the way this championship has ended.

It does in a way. You claim to have been raised a certain way & expected Lewis to follow that. Yet, for someone raised to act graceful, your reply I quoted seemed to show otherwise. So, it appears neither of you follow your expectations.

And yet what I posted directly from his Instagram shows that he is over it and is acting "properly".

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I

I am both criticizing Lewis and saying what I think is the reason for his behaviour. "Butt hurt" in this context means that what I get from his behaviour is that he isn't over his defeat and can't act properly yet with anything related to it (in this case, with the one that inflicted such defeat upon him).

About Rosberg mentioning that Lewis beat him for 18 years (I missed it but I trust you wouldn't mention it if it wasn't true), I guess that just shows how differently they are acting and reacting to the way this championship has ended.

The problem with your critique is it's partial rather than impartial, especially when you use a term like "butt hurt" which is no better than people calling other fanboys, cause they don't or can't convey a better notion.

And of course he probably isn't over his defeat, but he isn't as bad off I imagine as you've put it. He congratulated Nico many times over, what should he do any time their rivalry is brought up for years to come? Give tons of praise before he says anything slightly critical? Also what about you, you're given points of time where Lewis gives the man praise recognizes him as a great competitor to media and in personal view point, yet it's all a front, as you just did a few posts back.

So I can see why a few are debating your premise, if Lewis says something you see it as almost hyper critical and jackass levels of bad behavior, but if Nico mirrors similar phrasing it is of merit.

 

[Hun200kmh]

If the winner mentions that he was defeated many times over by his rival in the past I can't call that hyper critical and jackass levels of bad behaviour can I? I will call that being magnanimous, respectful to the defeated rival and generally graceful behaviour.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

If the winner mentions that he was defeated many times over by his rival in the past I can't call that hyper critical and jackass levels of bad behaviour can I? I will call that being magnanimous, respectful to the defeated rival and generally graceful behaviour.

Yet I hardly have seen any F1 driver do that every time the topic is brought up. Lewis said Nico drove well this season several times. So because he doesn't say it here all perspective is lost?

 

[Hun200kmh]

Oh no, not all perspective. There are many good things to say about Lewis Hamilton, especially when he is actually racing it out on track. But this isn't a "the guy is 100% bad" because of this reply. He just wasn't graceful.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Yes, the butt hurt is quite real.

To be fair, he spoke those words that you quoted within minutes of losing the title. And the cynics among us might see that as him saving face by handling himself with decorum because he has to. But some of his subsequent comments appear to be waging psychological warfare on his as-yet-unnamed team-mate, saying that they need to be able to handle the pressure.

 

[trustjab]

To be fair, he spoke those words that you quoted within minutes of losing the title. And the cynics among us might see that as him saving face by handling himself with decorum because he has to. But some of his subsequent comments appear to be waging psychological warfare on his as-yet-unnamed team-mate, saying that they need to be able to handle the pressure.

Yeah, anyone needs to be able to stand the pressure at Constructors champions Mercedes. Not only that, but because you're filling the shoes of the drivers world champion on top of that you're up against Lewis who is 3x world champion. So of course it's true, you better bring your A-game.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Yeah, anyone needs to be able to stand the pressure at Constructors champions Mercedes.

That's true, but you can bet that Hamilton will move to consolidate his position within the team. Especially since Mercedes have confirmed that they want to secure a second driver by the end of the year. Whoever replaces Rosberg will face a team built around him.

 

[justin credible]

The seething from Hamilton and his minions is getting to comical levels.

Seems some are a bit bitter seeing Nico with a beautiful wife and family and something more than racing which is real in his life?
Family comes first everything else is second every time.

Lets be real here we all know if any of the other drivers had been in that Mercedes they would have been up there.
And vice-versa if Lewis and Nico were in the Haas they wouldn't be anywhere near q3 never mind Podiums.
Nico got the most points regardless of bad luck penalties etc he won he deserved it. Move on.

 

[-Fred-]

Whoever replaces Rosberg will face a team built around him.

Which is basically what every team with a "dominant" driver with world championship credentials does. Vettel-RedBull comes to mind, or the Schumacher-Ferrari (and Benetton) era, just to name those two.

 

[Pupik]

And somehow the show will go on after Hamilton retires or quits the sport, whenever that is. Thankfully, three-quarters of the overly-rabid know-nothing-homers and absurdist Hamilton-haters will immediately disappear from the sport as well.

 

[tribolik]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...e-wont-miss-nico-rosberg-and-he-wont-miss-it/

Interesting read...

 

[ShiftingGears]

It depends what driver Mercedes pick. If Mercedes pick a driver who's fast enough I think they will be given an opportunity. I don't think Hamilton has endeared himself to the team at all.

 

[trustjab]

It depends what driver Mercedes pick. If Mercedes pick a driver who's fast enough I think they will be given an opportunity. I don't think Hamilton has endeared himself to the team at all.

I think it's actually the opposite but not so much the team as the higher ups making the decisions. Things like saying they won't interfere with the title fight, but telling Lewis to speed up. Or things like taking Lewis's mechanics and putting them in Rosberg's garage. There's been nothing about Lewis being hard to work with or bad for team morale. Only tabloids put that in print. They like to place his personal life as something that's not what f1 needs or it distracts him or detracts from him. People invest too much into how a person looks or dresses or what music they're into. I think Mercedes will find someone that is competent and quick enough to push for a wcc for the team.