Possible new bug: blinking braking indicator
- Thread starter HellzFire
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- Theresa, Wisconsin
I am not sure that would be possible. Did you notice in the game with the W08 as soon as you activate the brakes the car goes to zero throttle regardless of gas pedal position? It could be a function of the hybrid system and regenerative braking. Also if you do that with you road car and you have an automatic your torque converter will unlock costing you fuel mileage. Last but not least this would never add speed to a car in real life. I raced in real life for over 20 years, there are times a driver may use a little brake on corner exit to control wheel spin but it is never something one would do for most of a lap, even dragging the brakes slightly would cause massive overheating because they would never have time to cool.
Veinz
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- Ontario
He isn’t doing that, what a dumb argument.
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The whole point of this bug and thread is because it makes cars gain speed on a straight ffs
Obviously braking can help in terms of trailbraking and on corner exits. That isn't the discussion, and isn't the bug.
- 5,364
- Ohio
You're an angry fella to even bother saying FFS.
I'm done.
I'm done.
- 2,138
- Wales
- ARC_rono_thomas
The exploit is running a little brake makes you go faster on the straights,
So you agree its nothing like real life, but have argued to say it is.
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internet acronyms hardly represent emotion fully you realise? you really think every 'lol' is typed by someone laughing out loud? or every 'lmao' is typed by someone by someone laughing so hard that their ass comes off? or every 'ffs' is typed by someone seething and frothing?
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Why type that braking making a car gain speed in a straight line isn't a bug, and compare it to a real life theory, only to backtrack and say your theory is dumb?
I thought you were done?
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- Ohio
Well, hotsaucer but now I see rono thomas.
Enough power overcomes brake drag. I guess that's it. We're on a different page apparently.
Enough power overcomes brake drag. I guess that's it. We're on a different page apparently.
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- ARC_rono_thomas
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Drive with two feet. Floor it a lot. Drag brakes. Balance it all out.
I didn't know this would be such a conversation or I wouldn't have made a comment..
Sorry guys. 👍
I didn't know this would be such a conversation or I wouldn't have made a comment..
Sorry guys. 👍
- 2,138
- Wales
- ARC_rono_thomas
But not on the straights right? (Dragging brakes) Because that shouldn’t be quicker should it.
- 1,772
- Ludwigsburg
- RocketJoe1-61
Hey Cory, I've never raced irl ( except my Yaris to the tobacco shop ) but I'm sure you know what you're talking about. The difference is it's been your skill, your feet that made your Civic go faster ... and not a piece of cardboard or tape.
A bit off topic : I just finished the third sector of Catalunya track experience. I'm using ABS standard only and achieved a 38.1xx. I'm very pleased with that time. I would have loved to compare to some top drivers and I expected a gap of a couple of tenths, but all I saw was some very clever idiots who've found a way through the barriers, 2 or 3 seconds quicker. Isn't it a nice trick ? Then I got suspicious and assumed that some of them also have a ... back on topic now ... blinking braking indicator - could be very helpful with that car on that track.
Thing is, that suspicion will follow me into every race I'll probably take part in. Bad luck I guess, no fun for sure. Great times for clever Dicks.
TT92
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- TT__777
Sadly I have read this whole thread :-(
I just wish all of you would put the same amount of effort into trying to stop people corner cutting, going outside of the track limits and wall riding. The same excuse is used for all those too "The game let's me do it!"
Don't even get me started on the penalty fiasco >:-(
A lot of time and effort going into something that is ultimately a PD problem that they may or may not fix. And for anyone contemplating doing it, just go for it, PD cannot/will not ban you for using your brake in *ANY* fashion you desire!
BTW I will not do it and I respect track limits hence I no longer race in Sport events.
My $0.02 worth
I just wish all of you would put the same amount of effort into trying to stop people corner cutting, going outside of the track limits and wall riding. The same excuse is used for all those too "The game let's me do it!"
Don't even get me started on the penalty fiasco >:-(
A lot of time and effort going into something that is ultimately a PD problem that they may or may not fix. And for anyone contemplating doing it, just go for it, PD cannot/will not ban you for using your brake in *ANY* fashion you desire!
BTW I will not do it and I respect track limits hence I no longer race in Sport events.
My $0.02 worth
LeGeNd-1
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If you imagine a Venn Diagram (google it if you don't know), one circle is a bug, and the other is an exploit. There is an area of intersection in the middle.
Bug - something that the devs don't intend, but causes no harm to game progression (basically just a novelty/curiosity factor). Example would be being able to use photomode filters during a race (not a bug in GTS, but has been possible in GT6).
Exploit - something that gives an advantage that's not in the "spirit of the rules" but still within the game limits. Examples like abusing the track limits at RBR, or the excessive slip angle usage back in GT6 GT Academy top times...
Bug & exploit - this thread.
Makes sense?
Problem is it's not easy to use, and it's not as apparent as track limit abuse if you don't look for it in the replays. I tried using the cardboard trick and the analog triggers method and can't get the sweet spot right. Lucky me for having pedals and controller with no deadzones yay!
As long as there are players in the dark about this or can't use it (like anyone without a wheel), it's not going to be a level playing field.
There's no physical loss per se, but the effort and time expended by those who don't use it, and still lost to those who use it, is what rankles.
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- Ireland
The entire glitch people are doing isn't wise. I've seen people in the top in Daily Race A during last week in the high 46 and very low 47. There was an Irish driver (from my country) who didn't use the glitch. But the person who was the quickest never saved his replay. 2nd and 3rd did and they used the glitch. This glitch doesn't help anyone. It only helps your qualifying time. The race is completely different. Even if you set the fastest lap each race for using the glitch, it's possible for someone to punt you off for either getting on their nerve or they just simply want to stop the quick drivers getting away. I'm not disagreeing with any of these arguments. Everyone has a good point. Cardboard or tape is prpbably helping. But I don't know how excatly you get either of those items to pull the brake trigger on the pad back. Doesn't matter. What I'm saying is, if you're a pole sitter for using the glitch, don't expect yourself to win. I hope that they fix it too. We've had enough bugs for a 1 year 2 month release of a game.
This glitch was discovered several weeks ago but is no in full use. So, it has nothing to do with the latest update, maybe it was in the game since release. And yet you claim it should have been found pre-release and even imply that it should be easy to find.
Why do I get the feeling you know nothing about software development and/or in a broader sense, quality control?
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- João Pessoa
- hellZfirEJP
Disagree with you. This exploit gives people potentially half a second in a 47s laptime track, using it in the race with 10 laps of length would give him 5s. How does this dont help in the race?
There's not a lot of extra effort to get the exploit going. It doesn't affect your driving at all.
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- RocketJoe1-61
It doesn't save you from being punted of course. I've experienced racing against an exploiter though and believe me, it can help big time.
It's in the game since day 1. It's not even a bug. It's the way Braking, ABS System ( and the Tire Model probably ) are designed and programmed. PD's "error" was they didn't foresee people to discover that weak point within and exploiting it.
Just my 2 ct worth
...or, as @Lazybike mentioned
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- Theresa, Wisconsin
One lucky thing is if I decide I need to use the braking defect in the game it is simply spinning a threaded adjuster on my Fanatec V3 load cell pedals. Fanatec must have envisioned a use for a brake adjuster when they built the pedal set. 
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This glitch does not excatly help much. You use the glitch to put in a lap time, you end up on pole, you can always get punted into turn one. Especially if it's a sharp corner like Spa, which will be added in early 2019. The glitch is helping the qualifying. Not the race. You can agree or disagree but what I see is is that once someone uses the glitch to set a lap time, it's for qualifying. The race can be a whole different story. Top-Split lobbies don't have people doing the glitch (not many or any ( I hope)) so I don't see what can be wrong. It's in lower lobbies people use the glitch. I don't know if this bug works in the race. If it does, don't see the benefit still.
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- Theresa, Wisconsin
I only saw 1 person abusing this glitch a little earlier today in Race A on the US top 10. It was a DR/D driver that was in 8th or 9th. Everyone else above him I watched and they were legit.
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- Ireland
Low ranked drivers are going to do this in EMEA, Asia and America. I wonder what would they do if they entered the world finals. What glitch would they use? The new bug is something I don't think Polyphony is going to fix. The drivers don't want to race as if this is real life, it's their choice. Whilst the rest of us would rather be clean drivers hoping to become a world champion in GT Sport for amazing clean driving.
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- Nelson, England
- GTP_ASH32
I can't see how anyone could think it won't help much in a race, I mean if anything it'll be an even bigger benefit in the race. One of the most important things if you are battling other cars is how fast you can go on any longish straight, this glitch gives anyone doing it a free boost in power, how can that not be a massive unfair advantage.
At least in qualifying you might be able to out drive someone doing this, although that depends on how good the cheater would be otherwise and how good you are but come race time this extra boost along with the slipstream is going to give them a great chance of sticking with you even if they are not quick enough to pass you, that's hardly fair for the real fast guy or for the other runners wondering how the guy in front keeps blasting away on the straights.
At least in qualifying you might be able to out drive someone doing this, although that depends on how good the cheater would be otherwise and how good you are but come race time this extra boost along with the slipstream is going to give them a great chance of sticking with you even if they are not quick enough to pass you, that's hardly fair for the real fast guy or for the other runners wondering how the guy in front keeps blasting away on the straights.
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- João Pessoa
- hellZfirEJP
If you don't think 5s faster total time isn't an advantage, then fair enough.
When you do the glitch properly, it's a MASSIVE advantage, in whichever race condition the glitcher is on.
