PS3 General Discussion

[Sprite]

Hi guys, thought you shoud check this video, yeh its about Nvidia showing off the Quad SLI Dell PC, but just watch till the end and they talk about PS3 & Nvidia. 👍

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"edit added 16th Jan 2006"

just thought you might like this too lol,

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[Solid Lifters]

Wal-Mart has a website page for the PS3.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=413799&path=0:2636:413799

 

[methodofpayment]

is the ps3 goin to be all region?👍

 

[tha_con]

is the ps3 goin to be all region?👍

It's been tossed around, so no one knows yet. It's confirmed (as far as I know) that the movies will be 2 regions only, that being NA and Asia as one region, and EU as another.

I dont' think it will be any different with games, but that has yet to be determined. We'll see, it'll be nice if it's not though. Imports rock.

 

[Fonce Diablo]

Knowing that PS3 will be Blu-ray capable, what kind of games would that mean for us?

Ace Combat 7 with 300 planes? Gran Turismo 5 ending up with north of 1,000 cars?

Just exactly what can these programmers do with 54 gigs of data?

...and I want the silver one.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Knowing that PS3 will be Blu-ray capable, what kind of games would that mean for us?

Ace Combat 7 with 300 planes? Gran Turismo 5 ending up with north of 1,000 cars?

Just exactly what can these programmers do with 54 gigs of data?

...and I want the silver one.

We get in 720p high-definition, for one thing. I don't think we'll ever get to see a 1080p game, though. That means game developers would have less to work with. Why would they do that? But, if they have a game idea that does not require a lot of power, they could then afford to make a 1080p game, but I don't see that happening either. It'll be cool, though, if it happens.

GT5 will have 22 to 26 cars on the track at one time. Rally stages will have 4 to 8 cars at one time. That's not in stone, but just the obvious from the Vision Gran Turismo video we saw at E3 2005.

 

[Dave A]

Knowing that PS3 will be Blu-ray capable, what kind of games would that mean for us?

Ace Combat 7 with 300 planes? Gran Turismo 5 ending up with north of 1,000 cars?

Just exactly what can these programmers do with 54 gigs of data?

...and I want the silver one.

Space for content isn't the issue yet, it's making everything hi-def that is. GT4 had 700 cars and however many tracks yet used up a little over half the disk space. GT4 could have had 2000 cars and it would have fitted on the disk. The problem is, we'd still be waiting for the game to be released now if it was to have that many.

 

[livemusic]

GT5 will have 22 to 26 cars on the track at one time. Rally stages will have 4 to 8 cars at one time. That's not in stone, but just the obvious from the Vision Gran Turismo video we saw at E3 2005.

Actually Vision GT trailers show only 16 car on track, but yeah, it would be nice to have huge grids on the game.

 

[code_kev]

Lots of FMV.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Actually Vision GT trailers show only 16 car on track, but yeah, it would be nice to have huge grids on the game.

The Nurb course cars numbered 18, and there could have been more because the clip end rather abruptly. Plus, the Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway clip shows 23 cars, which means, more than likely, it had 24 cars, at least, racing on the course at the same time. The Costa di Amalfi course had eight Rally cars, while the Grand Canyon Rally had only six. I'm betting others will only have four Rally cars.

 

[livemusic]

Hmm, I guess I haven't watched all the trailers then.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Hmm, I guess I haven't watched all the trailers then.

Look at the first post in this thread for one. It shows the 18 cars on Nurb, the 23 cars on Motegi Super Speedway, the 8 cars on Amalfi, 8 F1 cars on Cote, and some others. You need to fast forward to the 1:30min mark.

 

[Solid Lifters]

New PlayStation 3 Details

February 03, 2006 - According to Eurogamer, the latest issue of the US PSM Magazine has some new info on PS3 capabilities that include a digital video recorder ability like TiVO and the ability to download music and movies from the "PlayStation Network". Pretty cool stuff.
Apparently the new online service, titled PlayStation Network, won't just offer matchmaking and ranking lists. You can expect an iTunes-type store that lets you download films and music, and you'll be able to use the console as a Location Free Player. Which means you'll be able to upload stuff from your PS3 onto your PSP, and watch Blu-Ray and DVD movies on your handheld.
Rather excitingly, the PS3 will act as a digital video recorder, so you can digitally store all your favourite telly programmes just like with Sky+ and TiVo. Plus, you'll have the option to control the DVR function using your PSP.

 

[Max_DC]

I found the same info as solidlifters, but even a bit more on magicbox.com :

P L A Y S T A T I O N 3

- Reuters reported that Sony has confirmed a spring 2006 launch date for PlayStation 3, but no territory was specific, so the system maybe launched in Japan first. Sony has denied the online reports about the PS3 launch been pushed back to Q4 2006.

- PSM has reported new tidbits regarding to PlayStation 3, based on info provided by anonymous developers.

* There are far more game titles in development for PS3 than originally expected in US.
* Some developers have already received the final development hardware for PS3 in early January 2006.
* The performance of the PS3 hardware is faster than expected, PS3 also possesses a Digital Video Recording (DVR) function.
* Sony will have a content download service similar to iTunes, but will offer high definite films and music.
* PS3 will have Media Center capabilities similar to Xbox 360, but with more functions.
* Video and audio can be streamed over a home network, Sony is planning for a location free rendition over PSP.
* PSP will be able to exchange data with PS3; it is possible to upload multimedia contents from PSP to PS3.
* PS3 will have firmware update capabilities similar to PSP.
* PS3 will have more BluRay functionalities than a regular BluRay Player, because the Cell and RSX processor can do a lot more tasks while reading the discs.
* PS3 will launch in US in Autumn 2006, certain game titles will have online functions at launch.

Well that sounds very good, although I still don't really believe a spring release. Early summer maybe, but who knows.... Good news nevertheless I think....

EDIT : (source :ign ) :

Headline : RGBA8888! S3TC! DXT and DDS!
January 30, 2006 - Finally, some PS3 news! No, we don't have details on the supposed February demo event, nor do we have any new bits on Metal Gear Solid 4. Instead, we have the tinest of updates on the PS3 development front.
Web Technology, a Japan-based company that provides development tools, has announced the availability of its Optix ImageStudio graphics tools for the PlayStation 3. The toolkit will be available starting 2/1 at a cost of 360,150 yen per license (that's over $3,000, in case you were getting any ideas). Developers using Ver.5 of the PS2 version of the toolkit can upgrade at 147,000 yen.
The PS3 version of Optix Image Studio adds support for PS3 format 32-bit RGBA8888 images, direct editing and conversion for S3TC compressed textures (DXT1 - 5) and support for PS3 DDS files. If you know what any of that means, please let us know.

 

[Dave A]

The DVR capabilities is a big, big plus, it sounds very good.

 

[Jay]

All sounds great, although this makes me a little more concerned about price and I'm a bit skeptical about the release date.

Also if you can record video I wonder if we will get a Hard drive included, or will they do packages like Xbox did?

 

[Dave A]

DVR capabilities isn't hard to implement, I doubt it will come with the abiity to do that boxed because it doesn't look like it will come with a HDD, the console already have connections for the TV so you don't need a TV card like you would a PC if you wanted to turn that into a DVR, it's just software from there.

I expect they will do packages, thats proveded the HDD is available at launch.

 

[Jay]

DVR capabilities isn't hard to implement, I doubt it will come with the abiity to do that boxed because it doesn't look like it will come with a HDD, the console already have connections for the TV so you don't need a TV card like you would a PC if you wanted to turn that into a DVR, it's just software from there.

I expect they will do packages, thats proveded the HDD is available at launch.

Yeah I agree DVR wouldn't be hard to implement but its still a great feature that could fetch a price hike. Thats why also think there will be packages available.

 

[Sprite]

But the PS3 dosnt have any imputs only outputs (TV source anyway) so they would have to add this.

 

[a6m5]

Well that sounds very good, although I still don't really believe a spring release. Early summer maybe, but who knows.... Good news nevertheless I think....

It was mentioned in the Japanese News site I was reading yesterday. According to the article I was reading, whey they say Sony "confirmed", it was more like Sony "denied" about any delays. Seems the rumor started when a EA executive(might've been a CEO) told the reuters that he expected the PS3 release to be Q4 of 2006.

I expect they will do packages, thats proveded the HDD is available at launch.

Probably, which will be good. X360 did a bundle, but their bundle system was useless, because nobody wanted the core package. In PS3's case, I'm not sure if I want the DVR feature. I think I just want the video game system, not this do-it-all entertainment system. Blu-ray's an exception though, I definitely want that. I'd think Blu-ray drive is a standard feature? I'm not completely sure of what I want, exactly. Another reason why I might wait little bit before I get one, listen to the feedbacks from the PS3 owners.........

 

[livemusic]

Sounds good.... and expensive.

 

[Solid Lifters]

S3TC = Simply put, S3TC (S3 Texture Compression) is a technology that S3 developed to compress textures in 3d games. DXT1 - 5 = DXT5 converts 16 input pixels into 128 bits of output, consisting of 64 bits of alpha channel data (two 8 bit alpha values and a 4x4 3 bit lookup table) followed by 64 bits of color data. There a four other DXT formats that I didn't list here for obvious reasons.

RGBA8888 = A Texture Render Format that uses 8bits for R = Red color pixel value, G = Green color pixel value, B = Blue color pixel value and A = Alpha values, which determines opacity levels of the colored pixels.

DDS = DDS file format is used to store textures and cubic environment maps.



The following new was revealed several days ago...

Web Technology, the Japan-based development tools provider, has announced the release of its Optix Image Studio graphics tools for Sony’s upcoming console PlayStation 3.

The kit will be available starting 2/1 at $3,062. Developers using v5 of the PS 2 version of the toolkit can upgrade at $1,250.

The Optix Image Studio for PS3 adds support for PS3 format 32-bit RGBA8888 images, direct editing and conversion for S3TC compressed textures (DXT1 - 5) and support for PS3 DDS files.

 

[Max_DC]

It was mentioned in the Japanese News site I was reading yesterday. According to the article I was reading, whey they say Sony "confirmed", it was more like Sony "denied" about any delays. Seems the rumor started when a EA executive(might've been a CEO) told the reuters that he expected the PS3 release to be Q4 of 2006.

Well you're right you always have to be careful with news. Large companies use them in order to achieve their goals, which can be practically everything...
Another factor might be that the japanese language is - afaik - not so fond of a clear "No" or strict hard facts. From the impression I go they like to formulate it in a milder way which needs the ability to interpret the actual meaning of what was said, since for example a "No" could result in a uncomofortable situation and some people might kind of lose their face, which is a very bad thing in Japan.
Well, maybe I'm wrong and Sony just doesn't know if they are able to reach their own goals

 

[LaBounti]

when did Richard Burns die????

Anyway. I remember reading a question survey(not opinion) of what people would want and one feature was the abilty to capture not just screenshots of anything but video aswell. to capture video while playing would take a lot of system power to not bog down gameplay. also mentioning being able to share videos over the net through the ps3.

Some graphis cards have vivo(video in video out) so that would not be costly or difficult to do. capturing video would boild down to software to do it.

Fall 06 sounds good say October ish before i turn 28.

 

[kikie]

N00b question: what's "packages"???

 

[iceburns288]

The DVR sounds nice and all, but really expensive, considering the cost of a good TiVo already.

Stick to making a nice PS3 that we can actually afford, THEN start adding features as an OPTION.

 

[Max_DC]

when did Richard Burns die????

In the end of November (cancer)

N00b question: what's "packages"???

package 1 : Xbox360 Core ( no HD, no wireless pad )
package 2 : Xbox360 Premium ( compete )

so this kind of package was meant.

 

[a6m5]

Well you're right you always have to be careful with news.

Yup. I agree with the "delay" though. I get a feeling the delay announcement is coming.

...
Another factor might be that the japanese language is - afaik - not so fond of a clear "No" or strict hard facts. From the impression I go they like to formulate it in a milder way which needs the ability to interpret the actual meaning of what was said, since for example a "No" could result in a uncomofortable situation and some people might kind of lose their face, which is a very bad thing in Japan.

So, you weren't just partying in Japan after all! Just kidding, you are right on the money about that. 👍 I sometimes talk that way to the Americans, which sometimes confuses them. Tough habit to break!

 

[tha_con]

DVR is probably purely rumor, at least in the sense that you guy's are thinking of DVR.

The PS3, from it's specifications, has absolutely no video in ports. Not one. The only way that it could possibly be capable of recieving data like such would be

1) Copying straight from a physical media source (CD, DVD, BD-ROM)

2) Content downloaded via the internet

3) Content recorded via the Eyetoy (which I assume will function through the gigabit ethernet port)


With that said, the Multi-Video out is just that, and output. Both HDMI's are output. That leaves nothing for input.

You see, in order for them to serve as "both" there would have to be a switch, because the console would not be able to tell when to send output, and when to recieve it. it's one directional, traffic only goes one way.

So, with that said, I think the "DVR" rumors are extremely false, and it will only be available via download. Meaning you'll be able to download trailers and such, "joy"...that's just my take from a technical standpoint, anyone feel free to provide more info if I've said something wrong.

 

[Solid Lifters]

DVR is probably purely rumor, at least in the sense that you guy's are thinking of DVR.

The PS3, from it's specifications, has absolutely no video in ports. Not one. The only way that it could possibly be capable of recieving data like such would be

1) Copying straight from a physical media source (CD, DVD, BD-ROM)

2) Content downloaded via the internet

3) Content recorded via the Eyetoy (which I assume will function through the gigabit ethernet port)


With that said, the Multi-Video out is just that, and output. Both HDMI's are output. That leaves nothing for input.

You see, in order for them to serve as "both" there would have to be a switch, because the console would not be able to tell when to send output, and when to recieve it. it's one directional, traffic only goes one way.

So, with that said, I think the "DVR" rumors are extremely false, and it will only be available via download. Meaning you'll be able to download trailers and such, "joy"...that's just my take from a technical standpoint, anyone feel free to provide more info if I've said something wrong.

Why wouldn't an external USB2 HDTV Tuner work?

Plus, as it was pointed out, there could be enough space on the back of the PS3 for a 75 ohm coaxial and a HDMI input. Perhaps a S-Video or RCA input, also.

I bet it's a possibility, but not likely to happen for some time.