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Request:

Anyone have a GTR tune they feel is nice? Oh and would you mind sharing it. Thank you.





CSLACR
Yeah, but it's a lack of dst, when you say "dst" it means it's in effect, and it isn't anymore.
DST would also be the difference between eDt and eSt. :) It went from 2pm eDt to 1pm eSt.
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I don't know. LoL I wish it would stop. Time. What are you doing. TIME. STOOOPPP!!!!



Sorry. LoL
 
OwensRacing
Request:

Anyone have a GTR tune they feel is nice? Oh and would you mind sharing it. Thank you.
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I can check mine tomorrow for you Jeff, but to be honest, I'm not finding much difference with any changes and I'm basically running it as it was for Monza. Since 2.09, I think suspension tuning is pretty much pointless personally, so I just make sure I get the Tranny right for me, then set the BB and I'm done. Gives me more time to run laps, which I think is more important ;)
 
RIP_Welsh_Don
I can check mine tomorrow for you Jeff, but to be honest, I'm not finding much difference with any changes and I'm basically running it as it was for Monza. Since 2.09, I think suspension tuning is pretty much pointless personally, so I just make sure I get the Tranny right for me, then set the BB and I'm done. Gives me more time to run laps, which I think is more important ;)
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Totally agree with this. Dom has tested some extreme suspension values with not to little noticable difference. Just plug in some suspension numbers that worked for you before. Tweaking them is just a waste of time.

The LSD is still working as before, so in addition to above, you can spend time to get the LSD right for you.

If you want to test mine, I use LSD as 5/10/5 and Breakbalance 2/8.

Nothing else to tune, kind of sad actually.
 
They must have made some mistake , lets hope they fix it with the next update and not break it more.
 
My best is a low 57 I'm just struggling with the car for some reason. However I'll hopefully get some practice in later tonight.
 
RIP_Welsh_Don
Lap 4 - 1'54.920 :D
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For real???

I'm amazed how everybody seem to just get better and better. In JGTS 1, the pole was 1:55.3, and best race lap was 1:55.4..
That was Tony with a 518 bhp, 1130 kg, 607 PP GT-R.

And now, we're looking at 54's with the 2,09 physics and all.
You aliens never stop to amaze me! 👍
 
Denilson
I'm going to keep track of everyones votes in this post and quote it as we go along.
State if you're fine with either, or only one of the proposed start times.

This is with F1 in mind. So this is only for JGTS R5 @ Nürburgring GP/F.

This is not a vote in like the option that get the most votes win.
It's enough if just one guy can't make the earlier start time to keep the original start time.
There's a possibility to start D1 and D2 at different times though.
So this post is just to keep track of who can/can't make the proposed times.

Option: 1
Connect Time: 17.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 18.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jeff
* Jason
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre


Option: 2
Connect Time: 16.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 17.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jash
* Steve
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Nissman
* Jeff
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre

Green: Fine with either
Black: Locked

Won't race either way:
Eddie
Basse
Alex
SG15
DA6righthand
Fakegangstadie
Jordan
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It's already clear that the division Jason ends up in will start at the original time.

20 guys have had a say so far.
Tim?
Johan?
Anyone.. Have a say.
 
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I knew somebody not Tony or Adam would get a 54, and probly Nige. I expect 2-3 will clip a sub 55.5 Q too.

Regarding tuning, I'm finiding it best to just set the car to absorb bumps well, and leave it pretty much at that.
I'm running this on the HSV:
5/5
12.8/13.2
5/5
3/3
1/1

2.0/1.2
-0.10/0.00

I wouldn't be running higher than 40/55 aero on anything, Supra probably 50/55 and Bandai 35/50. For guesstimates.

Even if you can achieve rotation through the suspension, the car is going to end up handling so poorly over the bumps it will drive terribly overall. Much better to just drop some aero and take the stability of a more rounded setup.
 
Denilson
It's already clear that the division Jason ends up in will start at the original time.

19 guys have had a say so far.
Tim?
Johan?
Anyone.. Have a say.
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Fine with either
 
Denilson
For real???

I'm amazed how everybody seem to just get better and better. In JGTS 1, the pole was 1:55.3, and best race lap was 1:55.4..
That was Tony with a 518 bhp, 1130 kg, 607 PP GT-R.

And now, we're looking at 54's with the 2,09 physics and all.
You aliens never stop to amaze me! 👍
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Yeah, I knew it was possible but it's such a technical track it's hard to hit that 'sweet' lap, but I did on my last lap of the night! As I ran it as a 4 lap race I was able to save the replay and check to see if it was dirty through the chicane. It's very close, but seemed just about ok to me.

I have my Diff' at 10/12/6 and I'm running full DF, so I'm curious to see if lowering the rear DF based on Dom's post would help some more?

I'll be on later for some final tests and to qualify.
 
Denilson
I'm going to keep track of everyones votes in this post and quote it as we go along.
State if you're fine with either, or only one of the proposed start times.

This is with F1 in mind. So this is only for JGTS R5 @ Nürburgring GP/F.

This is not a vote in like the option that get the most votes win.
It's enough if just one guy can't make the earlier start time to keep the original start time.
There's a possibility to start D1 and D2 at different times though.
So this post is just to keep track of who can/can't make the proposed times.

Option: 1
Connect Time: 17.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 18.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jeff
* Jason
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre
* Simon
* Johan
* Tim


Option: 2
Connect Time: 16.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 17.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jash
* Steve
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Nissman
* Jeff
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre
* Simon
* Johan
* Tim

Green: Fine with either
Black: Locked

Pending: Dave

Won't race either way:
Petros
Eddie
Basse
Alex
SG15
DA6righthand
Fakegangstadie
Jordan
Click to expand...

It's already clear that the division Jason ends up in will start at the original time.

25 guys have had a say so far.
Joshua?
Josh?
Anyone.. Have a say.
 
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Sail IC
Totally agree with this. Dom has tested some extreme suspension values with not to little noticable difference. Just plug in some suspension numbers that worked for you before. Tweaking them is just a waste of time.
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I'm still in complete disagreement with that.
You can't find a tune that makes the car magically good everywhere anymore (a good thing). Small changes do still make a difference but it's not something you're going to see on the clock; it's all stability and compromise now. I made lots of small changes in the suspension setting things up for Monza that made easier to handle; but not necessarily faster. The going faster part comes by driving different and having a car that works with you.

People have just gotten too used to being able to find magical setups that yield instant time gains. Which is totally unrealistic as a lot of it was centered around defying physics. No more drastically different setups for different tracks.

Denilson
It's already clear that the division Jason ends up in will start at the original time.

20 guys have had a say so far.
Tim?
Johan?
Anyone.. Have a say.
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didn't see the point in saying anything if I don't care either way.
The only opinions that matter are the "no I can't race earlier" votes.

RIP_Welsh_Don
I have my Diff' at 10/12/6 and I'm running full DF, so I'm curious to see if lowering the rear DF based on Dom's post would help some more?
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Food for thought... I set the fastest lap of the race @ monza with full downforce.
 
Ok with the new update and the cars with max aero feel terrible.

We race in SNAIL and use cars with stock tunes. We've had aero and non aero the last two weeks. At stock tune the cars feel good. Example the Amuse R1 in OCD. I'd love for my GTR to feel like this again.

So all this talk. Is the aero just to strong now.

Has anyone ine plugged a tune in using stock aero figures and worked up the aero from there.

Maybe as mentioned they made a mistake on suspension effects and that's why our cars feel a little numb. Too much aero makes sense. Cars are bound to track to tight to move around. so basically the lack of spring and shock has the aero shoving car on ground. I just don't know. Is this visible from the side?

Just thinking out loud. Be home later today and will give this theory some testing.
 
Jeff, think of the tuning as tv volume, it started at volume 30, 2.08 turned it down to 20, 2.09 turned it down to 10. Gotta get really close to hear it and do a lot more than you'd like, but it's still sound.
If you get what I mean...


Dr_Watson
I'm still in complete disagreement with that.
You can't find a tune that makes the car magically good everywhere anymore (a good thing). Small changes do still make a difference but it's not something you're going to see on the clock; it's all stability and compromise now. I made lots of small changes in the suspension setting things up for Monza that made easier to handle; but not necessarily faster. The going faster part comes by driving different and having a car that works with you.

People have just gotten too used to being able to find magical setups that yield instant time gains. Which is totally unrealistic as a lot of it was centered around defying physics. No more drastically different setups for different tracks.
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Tuning still works like it always did, the only difference is everything has less effect.

I'll make a short youtube clip or two to show you guys then. 👍


Food for thought... I set the fastest lap of the race @ monza with full downforce.
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Full DF might likely still be the "fastest" way to go, but as described in your response above, you can make a much better handling, more comfortable car that's more balanced and natural by using some reduced rear aero.

That's totally opinion, but I don't think anyone here can drive a car with low rear aero through the Shumacher S and disagree it doesn't take it faster and easier, particularly in dirty air.
 
I tried several tunes the other night and they all seems different in their own way. :confused:

All of them sucked though, understeer on entry, understeer or power oversteer on exit. Might just go back to my Monza tune which was understeer galore but stable and just deal with it.
 
Dr_Watson
didn't see the point in saying anything if I don't care either way.
The only opinions that matter are the "no I can't race earlier" votes.
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There's huge point with keeping track of everyones votes/opinions..

If I only ask for who can't race, how do I know who actually knew about all of this in the first place? 💡
It's not unlikely (believe it or not) that someone will miss the information, and come race day miss the race cause he did'nt have a say.
At least now, I know who to PM as we get closer to Q deadline and Green flag.
I can't just assume that it's fine with either just because someone did'nt speak up.

So you're fine with either, great. 👍
 
Denilson
I'm going to keep track of everyones votes in this post and quote it as we go along.
State if you're fine with either, or only one of the proposed start times.

This is with F1 in mind. So this is only for JGTS R5 @ Nürburgring GP/F.

This is not a vote in like the option that get the most votes win.
It's enough if just one guy can't make the earlier start time to keep the original start time.
There's a possibility to start D1 and D2 at different times though.
So this post is just to keep track of who can/can't make the proposed times.

Option: 1
Connect Time: 17.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 18.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jeff
* Jason
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre
* Simon
* Johan
* Tim
* Rich


Option: 2
Connect Time: 16.00 PM (GMT)
Green Flag: 17.00 PM (GMT)
* Dennis
* skengdigi
* Jash
* Steve
* Nige
* Ealirendur
* Nissman
* Jeff
* Dom
* Will
* Paul
* Dr Dre
* Simon
* Johan
* Tim
* Rich

Green: Fine with either
Black: Locked

Pending: Dave

Won't race either way:
Petros
Eddie
Kevin
Basse
Alex
SG15
DA6righthand
Fakegangstadie
Jordan
Click to expand...

It's already clear that the division Jason ends up in will start at the original time.

27 guys have had a say so far.
Joshua?
Josh?
Anyone.. Have a say.
 
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CSLACR
Jeff, think of the tuning as tv volume, it started at volume 30, 2.08 turned it down to 20, 2.09 turned it down to 10. Gotta get really close to hear it and do a lot more than you'd like, but it's still sound.
If you get what I mean...
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Agree to some degree, but it also changed.

Ridehight doesn't work as before, it might even be reversed, but as its on volume 1 rather than 30 its hard to know what it does.

Rear toe was what I considered as a "power tune" before together with Ridehight an the LSD. Today rear toe doesn't have much effect and if anything its most (or only) noticable on the straights.

As everything in the suspention tuning is very subtle at best, and some things changed for sure, its just a guesswork.

On the positive side, setting up the car for a new track is done in notime.
 
Sail IC
As everything in the suspention tuning is very subtle at best, and some things changed for sure, its just a guesswork.
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not much different... it was guesswork of trial and error poking around trying to figure out what did what under the old regime as none of it was in accordance with the physical mechanics of weight transfer and contact patches.
 
Added Rich. 👍


On the tuning discussion, I think most of the settings do change the cars behaviour quite a bit.

Ride Hight: Evens out tire wear
Spring Rate: a Less/more bumpy ride
Dampers: helps with rotation (rear) on throttle and turn in (front)
ARB: Makes the car flex more/less (I had problem with the rear snapping out in T1 at GP/F. It felt stiff, so reduced the rear ARB and the skidding stopped).
BB: Helps with trail braking and even out wear (less impact on the wear compared to the ride hight)
Camber: Better front end grip in high speed corners, but more wear (mainly front, not as important in the rear. Can help with stability)
Toe: front can give a slightly better response in turn in (front), rear help the car to rotate in mid-high speed corners (not as much as pre 2,09, but still noticeable).
LSD: As pre 2,09. Slightly better feel in it.
Aero: Max aero is'nt as given as pre 2,09.
 
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