Reason why theres no Livery editor for GT5/PS3

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Enough good reasons for me.
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And for me too :drool:

I want some :(
 
Am I reading some of these responses correctly? You don't want an OPTION because of what people MIGHT do with it? How does this even make sense? Who cares how ugly people make their cars? The feature (if it ever comes out) is for you to enjoy and make the best of it. Do what you wish.

I can't even comprehend how this is a legit complaint about something. Like in real life, use your own custom "filter" and apply.

Well this for me is the only bad thing about the livery editor, and it seems no one is willing to discuss it. Yes, I am aware of all the positives, but it's surprising that so many people here say that the way others play the game doesn't affect them( I'm talking about playing online here).

What if, for example, Gt5 had an environment editor where people can paint trees purple or the sky pink in online rooms? Can you honestly tell me that it wouldn't affect the way you play and enjoy the game?

Again, I'm not against the livery editor but giving an immature community a powerful tool can have an effect on your playing, and I just think it's a legit point to discuss but people seem to just laugh it off.
 
Well this for me is the only bad thing about the livery editor, and it seems no one is willing to discuss it. Yes, I am aware of all the positives, but it's surprising that so many people here say that the way others play the game doesn't affect them( I'm talking about playing online here).
What if the positives outweigh the negatives? By a LOT?
What if, for example, Gt5 had an environment editor where people can paint trees purple or the sky pink in online rooms? Can you honestly tell me that it wouldn't affect the way you play and enjoy the game?
Umm... there isn't. The chances of that happening is much less than the chances of getting a livery editor.

This makes no sense by the way.
Again, I'm not against the livery editor but giving an immature community a powerful tool can have an effect on your playing, and I just think it's a legit point to discuss but people seem to just laugh it off.
Once again, you seem to think that the consequences of having a livery editor are really bad, and more negatives will be created than positives.
 
Well this for me is the only bad thing about the livery editor, and it seems no one is willing to discuss it. Yes, I am aware of all the positives, but it's surprising that so many people here say that the way others play the game doesn't affect them( I'm talking about playing online here).

What if, for example, Gt5 had an environment editor where people can paint trees purple or the sky pink in online rooms? Can you honestly tell me that it wouldn't affect the way you play and enjoy the game?

Again, I'm not against the livery editor but giving an immature community a powerful tool can have an effect on your playing, and I just think it's a legit point to discuss but people seem to just laugh it off.

So your saying basicly the gt5 community is immature. Why would you even care about other people putting stupid things on their car. Just race.

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What if the positives outweigh the negatives? By a LOT?

Even in the part of my post you quoted I say that I am aware of the good stuff, and they do outweigh the negatives. I was just discussing this one negative element that people don't talk about. Even in your reply you say "positives outweigh the negatives", which means you realize the negative does exist. I was just discussing it.

Umm... there isn't. The chances of that happening is much less than the chances of getting a livery editor.

This makes no sense by the way.

The point was to show that the way people play the game can have an affect on the way you enjoy it. I dont' really care how people paint their cars offline, online is a different story.


Once again, you seem to think that the consequences of having a livery editor are really bad, and more negatives will be created than positives.

Then you must have misunderstood my post. I even said in the post you quoted that this is the only bad side of the livery editor. This must be a sensitive subject for some of you...
 
Simple Solution.

You only see the custom liveries for people in the race who are on your friends list, everybody else you see whatever the default color of that car is.

It worked for NASCAR 09 so I'm sure PD could easily do the same thing.
 
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Simple Solution.

You only see the custom liveries for people in the race who are on your friends list, everybody else you see whatever the default color of that car is.

It worked for NASCAR 09 so I'm sure PD could easily do the same thing.

That wouldn't work the whole point of a livery editor is to show off your designs.
 
OHM_fusion: While I see what you're saying, I think the reason people don't make a big deal out of the negatives is because they either don't see it or its hardly seen enough to warrent such worry. I sort of think you're really making it a bigger deal then it is really. You'd be amased at how the sim painting community is very self-governing. Pretty much every sim thats had the ability to do custom livery has a community that is very well policed, to the point that its non existant really so your concern comes off as abit of an unnecessary worry. The NASCAR 09 painting community for example was very policed in most of the places I've seen 9including the site I was at for a while), they absolutely had zero tolerance for it so chances are if someone did make something inappropreate, it was usually removed before everyone else saw it.

Simple Solution.

You only see the custom liveries for people in the race who are on your friends list, everybody else you see whatever the default color of that car is.

There you go. Like I said, Those wonderful people called "Friends" tend to be a good thing :)

That's supposed to be a good example of livery editor use?

Well, its not exactly the stuff being talked about. Trollmobile maybe, but at least people will laugh at it rather then be scarred by a Supercar with a phallic object on the hood.
 
Have you ever played Forza 4 online? I'm pretty sure you haven't.

No I haven't, and what's your point?

OHM_fusion: While I see what you're saying, I think the reason people don't make a big deal out of the negatives is because they either don't see it or its hardly seen enough to warrent such worry. I sort of think you're really making it a bigger deal then it is really. You'd be amased at how the sim painting community is very self-governing. Pretty much every sim thats had the ability to do custom livery has a community that is very well policed, to the point that its non existant really so your concern comes off as abit of an unnecessary worry. The NASCAR 09 painting community for example was very policed in most of the places I've seen 9including the site I was at for a while), they absolutely had zero tolerance for it so chances are if someone did make something inappropreate, it was usually removed before everyone else saw it.


You are absolutely right. I know it looked like I was making a big deal but some people here misunderstood me and the whole thing kinda escalated. If it's going to be like you described it, bring on the livery editor:tup:
 
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No I haven't, and what's your point?

Because you seem to think that people are too immature to use a livery editor without creating lewd images, when in fact that almost never happens in the one game that does have a livery editor- Forza 4.

If you played Forza 4 online, I think you would realize this.
 
Even in the part of my post you quoted I say that I am aware of the good stuff, and they do outweigh the negatives. I was just discussing this one negative element that people don't talk about. Even in your reply you say "positives outweigh the negatives", which means you realize the negative does exist. I was just discussing it.
Ever thought why people don't discuss it so often? Maybe because it's a near non-existant problem?

The "least" mature group of people I've played with are the people from Midnight Club: Los Angeles. Very seldom do I see anything inappropriate. Yes, there are many bad designs, but nothing inappropriate, and what racing game doesn't have this?
The point was to show that the way people play the game can have an affect on the way you enjoy it. I dont' really care how people paint their cars offline, online is a different story.
Nope. Still doesn't make sense. If I'm presented with a guy with an immature design on his car, I can simply kick him out of the room. We can do that right now, no? And it's not uncommon that we kick people out.
Then you must have misunderstood my post. I even said in the post you quoted that this is the only bad side of the livery editor. This must be a sensitive subject for some of you...
You originally said that the consequence of letting immature players use a livery editor will negatively affect the way you play. What you are implying then, is that, the livery editor is a bad idea. You are also implying that there is a large community of immatures, since this problem is so relevant.

I don't understand your harping on this so-called "problem."
 
Because you seem to think that people are too immature to use a livery editor without creating lewd images, when in fact that almost never happens in the one game that does have a livery editor- Forza 4.

If you played Forza 4 online, I think you would realize this.

Well then I'm going to take your word for it, and hopefully that's the way it will be when GT gets the editor.
 
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You show them off to your friends you race with & you show them off on various message boards via the Photomode.

Nah I made a pretty good team design and raced it online and got heaps of compliments if a livery editor existed let everyone see the designs.
 
How can you say it doesn't need it because of what people might do to it. Forza has a report function at the viewable content in it's storefront. I'm sure PD could do the same thing. This is the silliest arguement of all times. It needs it, no doubt about it.
 
As someone said, this will be self censored by users. And i dont think its that big deal anyway.

(Function to permanently ban respective player from your lobbies would be good)
 
So if someone want's to do up there car in the ugliest/most offensive manner they could possibly muster, that is supposed to ruin my online racing experience how? I'm not stuck driving their car.

They are the ones making themselves look like a toolbag. I guess I don't get why someone would take offense to some mentally challenged person looking for attention online. Report their car and be done with it. Why waste any of your time or cause yourself stress over some waste of skin that gets off on your anger...

Besides, it's being blown way out of proportion. What other games have been ruined because of such a feature? None that I can think of. I've played many games with custom painting and such (not only on cars), and the offensively done up stuff really isn't that common.

There is no reason there shouldn't be a livery editor. Well, except if they leave it out in order to get a better feature put in.
 
Why theres no Livery editor in GT5/PS3

Forza/Xbox has the exclusive rights to have Livery Editor?


May I suggest you email PD, As they are really the only people whao can answer your question. All you will get here is Users views not the facts.
 
My somewhat (il-)logical views are that:

1) Sony prefers charging money for paint packs.
Maybe PD or Sony fears that people would do full body colour wraps that would kill the paint chip system. The next problem is that they could limit the spectrum of colour or its type (metallic, chrome etc) to combat the 1st problem and people won't be happy.

2) PD does not want to do so unless it's absolutely perfect and bug free. I don't think censorship is a big issue.

3) PD feels that its target audience is simply not interested. (Has a global poll ever been conducted?)

Personally:

A) I am leaning towards wanting such an editor. With an unlocked colour palette too.

B) For paint itself, they could have implemented a RGB palette (or something like the other racing games with custom paints), with manufacturer paint chips having the exact mixture. (Like recipes in fantasy RPGs, you can experiment with unknown mixtures of paint.)
 
Yeah, why should GT have a livery editor? People are just going to dick around with it and put penises and swastikas everywhere. They simply don't have the attention span to do anything proper with tools like that!

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My somewhat (il-)logical views are that:

1) Sony prefers charging money for paint packs.
Maybe PD or Sony fears that people would do full body colour wraps that would kill the paint chip system. The next problem is that they could limit the spectrum of colour or its type (metallic, chrome etc) to combat the 1st problem and people won't be happy.

2) PD does not want to do so unless it's absolutely perfect and bug free. I don't think censorship is a big issue.

3) PD feels that its target audience is simply not interested. (Has a global poll ever been conducted?)

Of all the reasons listed, this one is most likely the main reason.
 

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