RedBull Junior

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I think it's too loud and oversaturated. I don't like it. I wonder if this is masking the true sound quality.
Many people seem to feel that the louder and more distorted the sound, the better.

It sounds OK in practice, but it's still just exhaust sound. I think the oversaturation might be deliberate to lend a bit of extra "meat" (specifically, a modulation at half the engine speed) in the absence of the intake.
It's also far too raspy, as though it's got 2 metres of exhaust pipe poorly suspended, possibly for the same reason.
 
6:50's on the 'Ring (My own time with DS3). Does only 260 KMH on the long straight, but that's completely fine. It's a great little car just to push along the track. Surely will be using it a lot if other people start liking it too. No X2010/X2011 reputation for the Junior!
 
I did find it interesting that the drivetrain does not seem to match the wheels itself. The center of the wheel and driveshaft does not seem to match the body work. The flames out the exhaust don't match to it real location which is just forward if the rear wheels (blown diffuser anyone) I love this car not even 1 lap into the Silverstone race. I am happy it is in and will keep racing it.

PD please bring in backfire when bouncing off rev limiter please :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
 
I love it...the only downside is the FFB, it is way too low/light or soft, and the degrees of the wheel should be around 270º max.
I know a GP2 pilot and asked him about wheel ranges in real life a while back (because I play rFactor 2 and some more simulators and needed to know the actual degrees since I can change it in the PC).
Also he told me that FFB in open wheel cars should be a little bit heavy since the direction is quite direct as well as suspensions. No matter if the car is light.

If the FFB could be more or less like the Rocket mixed with the feel of the X2011, it should feel better.

270º max? That would be insane and would most likely be the reason for many accidents if that was used on an actual open wheel race car. I've driven 3 different types of open wheel race cars before, two Formula Mazda's and a Lola LC88 and none of them were anywhere near that. F1 cars have the lowest ratios generally, but even then the steering wheel will turn about 420º, ratios are obviously adjustable but 270 is probably not even possible on most things, most lower formulas are even more than F1 cars.

I don't know who the GP2 driver you talked to was, but you may have misunderstood him.

I always complained that the ratios were way too low in GT5 especially for the F1 cars. I haven't actually tried the RB Junior yet, but judging by what people are saying about the steering, i think it'll be closer to an actual open wheel race car.

I would probably agree with the weight of the wheel, but that's the same with every car in GT6. The reason for this is because of the wide band of FFB output from the software and the limitations of the hardware. If you increase the FFB output so that the low end feels heavier, then the top end will simply be cut off by the limit of the hardware. This is known as FFB clipping, it's a common issue with PC racing sims, because with those you have full adjustability of the strength of FFB, but if you just max it out thinking you'll get a really heavy wheel you'll actually be missing most of the actual FFB since it'll be cut off part way (i learned this the hard way). You have to keep the levels low enough so that you don't get any clipping, this means that if a particular car has a very wide band of FFB (like most open wheel cars with no power steering would have), then the usual FFB will feel quite light, but if you hit a curb then you'll definitely feel that.

Both of these clips are from Monaco, the reason is that it's probably the only circuit that you'll ever see a driver actually using full lock in these types of cars. Look at their wheels when they go through the Grand Hotel hairpin; like i said, no where near 270º. The Formula Renault has quite a lot of steering lock compared to most formula cars, but that's needed because those cars despite how they look are actually very slippery; very little aerodynamic grip compared to the amount of power they have.

 
It sounds OK in practice, but it's still just exhaust sound. I think the oversaturation might be deliberate to lend a bit of extra "meat" (specifically, a modulation at half the engine speed) in the absence of the intake.
It's also far too raspy, as though it's got 2 metres of exhaust pipe poorly suspended, possibly for the same reason.
Because racecar! Not sure what everyone expects, it's supposed to be powered by a 4-cylinder and that's what it sounds like, a 4-cylinder with open exhaust.
 
I won all the Junior events with a lap to spare, but I had had to redo two of the kart events to get golds :indiff:
 
I like how PD listened to all the complainers who said X1 didn't belong in GT5. They made a "Junior" model which those people might be able to handle. :p But seriously the idea of progression is a very reasonable idea.

I love the RBJ. The only problem I have with them (and the Karts) is that they seem to not get realistically displaced during contact/collisions with others (not referring to damage). I guess PD assumed that that many cars on the track at those speeds might prevent average players from winning the races.
 
I absolutely love this car. I went online and found a race at Monaco. I was doing really well until the other two cars in front of me decided to ride the walls. Due to the car being so low I found it best to completely miss the rumble strips.
 
I have to be honest, when I seen these in the update, I was not impressed and wasn't even going to try them. Then I thought, what the hell, I'll try them out. All I can say is WOW, what a car!!!!! The sound is amazing and the handling is pretty awesome also, once you get used to them. As others have said though, the FFB seems a little weak and the steering gets a little getting used to, but if you can get used to those two things, its a pretty amazing little car. Pretty happy I gave them a try instead of just ignoring them because of the reputation of its big brother.
 
I loved driving the Junior car, it's like the Formula Renaults or Formula Fords that have so far been absent from GT. I look forward to the X2014 Standard car, hopefully it'll be halfway between the Junior and X2014 in terms of power as well as downforce.
 
Not really. I do notice some on the throttle understeer on exit, maybe I need a better setup on it. Hadn't noticed any braking issues.
Yeah... That's where the downforce comes in - under braking - at the end of a long straightaway, where 💡 you need brakes.


Putting our ideas together will create a lively, fun to drive version of the RBJ, which will be even more fun to drive than the original.


I want the challenge... It'll be like a proper Formula Vee/Formula Ford/Formula BMW... Something that would be more difficult to drive and therefore also fun.
 
I got a 2:03 on bathurst with it.

Now if I got the set up right it can go under 2:00 and compete with 600hp+ cars
 
Used the car, man it is awesome!
But is is louder than any other car I've tried after. I find myself having to lower the volume on my audio system because it is too loud. Once I switch cars, they are nowhere near to be heard.
 
How competitive is this car in the 730 PP events? 250 bhp seems a bit underpowered even though it's light. Didn't take notice of the top speed when I drove it.
The car was designed to run in it's own class
I got a 2:03 on bathurst with it.

Now if I got the set up right it can go under 2:00 and compete with 600hp+ cars
Do you think it will out pace the street cars that are running de tuned?
 
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