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Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by Ridox2JZGTE, Dec 22, 2013.
Ooohh can't wait for the Viper Love those cars!!! I'll be looking forward to it!
S30 Fairlady "Akuma" Z - Star Road Garage 300PS - Kaza's G27 review on CS tire.
I have a suggestion firstly, I'd ask for you to add this as an optional on the tune if you want? - I equipted the Inch up +2 GT Ab08 rims in a matte grey with red brakes to give it a more Devil Z look. The colour I used was 'Aegean Blue Pearl' from the Acura CL 3.2 Type-S '03. The GT Ab08's are the closest to the Watanabe 8.
SSR7/Wangan review - I couldn't test much here as of the limiter on speed because of the transmission stock, but getting to use the clutch on my G27 with a replica Devil Z was really fun! I almost felt like Akio when he tested the Z for the first time. It has a good handle, the only thing that I was finding strange was a lot of understeer then oversteer.
Matterhorn Rotenboden (Hakone in my case ) - I got a 1:57.932 on a leisurely 2nd lap. What I said on the SSR7 part didn't apply here, it seems the handle was way more exciting. I had to really use the shifter and wheel hard around turns otherwise the Z would of shook me off course . But overally it's a solid handle and is a good setup for racing here I'd say. The transmission being stock must of helped here too.
SSR5 Clubman/C1 review - 1:03.992 on the 2nd lap. A great tune here! I tried my best on the second lap, on the first I had a bit of getting used to it as it's very oversteery on CS, but once you know how it handles it's predictable. I had lots of fun blasting around here with the Z! The only bad points is the hard oversteer if you don't know how it handles. Overall another great tune from you again Ridox! I'll try and get some more of the WM tunes reviewed this week too.
Here are a couple pictures of me having fun in the Z...
Thank you for review and suggestions for the wheel and paint, will add those when I will update the replica again. I have to drive the S30 again, it's been a while I will look into the understeer and oversteer, the setup was made back in early days of GT6.
Awesome! I'm testing it in a lobby at the moment too. I'll see if I can make a good transmission tune.
The toe on the tune used total value, please divide it by 2 to use per side value ( the correct value )
I've been meaning to ask this question for a while... What are Wangan Midnight tunes? Is that a tuning garage or something? Also, I see that the name of this tune is Akuma Z, but KazaMR2 then refers to a "Devil Z look". Is that the same car, but a different color? I apologize, but I'm not really knowledgeable when it comes to tuning companies.
Wangan Midnight is an Anime/manga series, the tunes are replicas from the show . I tried to get the main character's car the 'Devil Z' or 'Akuma no Zetto' look by adding wheels simaler to Watanabe 8 spoke and I found a similar colour to the Devil Z too (and couldn't find the stock colour).
I remember asking @Ridox2JZGTE the exact same question somewhere but had completely forgot what they were , thanks for doing it again , I'll try to remember this time. What I'm curious about is how do you make a replica of an animated car? Did they give you enough clues to go on like speed, lap times, engine power , etc to go on?
Oh my gosh...Well, don't I feel stupid!! Wangan Midnight is an Anime series. I can't believe I asked if it was a tuning company. Oh, I am sitting over here laughing at myself. Thank you for clearing that up, KazaMR2.
Not knowing certain anime is fine Only nerds and geeks watch them just kidding In the manga/comics and anime, most of the cars are described in the story with quite details. The plot has some technical details in tuning and driving, similar to Initial D, but Wangan Midnight dig deeper IMO.
Sorry. What I was trying to say before my phone decided I was done was.
I had the same problem for ages too, Google is a wonderful thing.
That's an awesome time, CS or SH ? but I'm sure you could get quicker : ) The C6 ZR1 lap record was 7:19.63 ( likely done on Cup tires ), with the C7 Z06, I think the real car would do 7:15s or less on Z07 package ( Cup 2 tire ).
Wow, first I thought you would drive a standard car but it's a typo, the Yaris RS TRD Street pack is standard car, while the picture is Vitz F If you don't mind please share it as well on the April car of the month thread Do you like the pink ? I this this car is special when in pink
I used the Z07 with track settings on SH. Only did 2 laps, a warm up/get to know you lap and then treated it like a real life experience.
If I spent some more time, I could probably get under the C6 time but that would be totally on edge. It's very skittish and doesn't give much warning of an impending departure of grip but that could be the famed Nordschleife bumps trying to spoil my day.
I can't say I'm a big fan of pink, but it's OK.
A softer damper may be needed at green hell I think I read on MotorTrend, some of the cars when test at Big Willow have their dampers adjusted to better handle the bumps. The problem with the Z06 replica, the damper are already set at the optimum level for traction at Big Willow and Tsukuba, not sure if lowering the rear compression will be good. But I will highly recommend to install flat floor, the real car has stage 3 aero kit fitted ( included in Z07 package ), that adds more downforce. You may need to increase rear compression by 1 or 2, and should have much better rear traction.
I painted the Vitz red, then black, then blue then yellow and all of them feels wrong to my eyes, then I tried pink and I like it
It sounds like I have some testing to do.
I'll try all options & report back
Upon investigation, it seems I already had the flat floor fitted to this car
Surprising really as that's something I never like fitting for it's detrimental effect on straightline performance
Nice car Dan and nice win too. A must try you say I'm not painting it pink, sorry, just no. I've got a nice Lilac to put on it
Anyway back to my reason for being here this time.
Excuse me Mr. @Ridox2JZGTE sir. I have a little technical question. I'm doing a little research for another restoration and I've found the car uses a ZF Limited-slip differential. It's described as a self-locking differential and I can find the locking rate just fine. My question is...To simulate this would I have matching load and pre-load with lower braking? or Would it be locked across all 3 settings at the same values? or would it be something completely different?
The ZF self locking diff in the early VW and some other european cars have very low preload, they usually operates as open diff, but when high torque load applied, they will start to lock. These self lock diff also usually acts as open diff when on coast/overrun/ braking and the early ones were known as sliding pins and cams diff. Later ZF LSD have more variety in setup, from low to high preload, and locking on both drive/accel and overrun/braking ( characteristics can be tailored using ramp angle, preload and number of clutches )
We need more details on the ZF LSD The car it was fitted on, the lock rate on both drive and overrun, preload torque if any ?
It was in my intention to start a brainstorming to give this car a deserved color.
I can't say too much about the car sssh, it's a secret other than it is early European and not a VW
The data I found says it has a locking rate of 45%. With 27.5% of the torque going to one wheel and 72.5% to the other.
I know. I stole @TurnLeft's crystal ball
This secret car you speak of; can you hum the national anthem of the country it comes from?
Er, wait, scratch that
Is the national flag red, white & blue?
Dum Dum Dum Dum,
Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum,
Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum.
...and nope lol.
That is the torque bias ratio 27.5% : 72.5% is indeed 45% ( lock ), so if one wheel spinning and only capable to put down 100 lb ft torque, the other wheel can have up to 263 lb ft torque. The TBR is 2.63:1. This is likely for the drive side, rarely factory set up have more than 3:1 TBR on the overrun.
That is my understanding on the LSD torque bias ratio I may be right or wrong
I think mine will be black. Will see at home.
Ah ha! That leaves Germany or Italy then doesn't it
I was guessing it to be that gorgeous looking classic E cat.