Sciaru BRZFRS (BreezeFrees)

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Highest model might have brembos from what a few people said but standard brakes are the same among models. If you look at some of the wheel pictures, you can see how much room there is around the caliper.
 
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I wouldnt expect the trd to be in the usdm upon release but maybe down the road.
Also, I dont think wheels will be much of an issue but then again I was very happy to get the 18" bbs on my sti so maybe wheels will be an issue for some. :confused:
 
^Why not ask for smallest/cheapest brakes as well then and replace with Brembos right away?

Personally I'm probably gonna drive it completely stock at first. On stock rubber. Don't want to give it a level of grip different from what Subaru/Toyota designed it for.
 
dsgerbc
^Why not ask for smallest/cheapest brakes as well then and replace with Brembos right away?

Personally I'm probably gonna drive it completely stock at first. On stock rubber. Don't want to give it a level of grip different from what Subaru/Toyota designed it for.
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Glad to see a gtp member actually buying and not just talking. Let us know when you get it and report in after some mileage. :cheers:
 
dsgerbc
^Why not ask for smallest/cheapest brakes as well then and replace with Brembos right away?

Personally I'm probably gonna drive it completely stock at first. On stock rubber. Don't want to give it a level of grip different from what Subaru/Toyota designed it for.
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Uh, because that's expensive and probably voids the warranty. I'd keep the rubber, but I just don't like any of the wheel options.
 
I would prefer changing just the wheels over playing with the brakes. There are some mods that really go past what a company will ignore, replacing brakes with non factory brakes is definitely going to void the warranty. Further, its much more difficult to change brakes than it is wheels.
 
If you replace brakes, it will void brake warranty. The rest is still valid.

Kent
Glad to see a gtp member actually buying and not just talking. Let us know when you get it and report in after some mileage. :cheers:
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Supposedly in May some dealerships will get an allocation car. I'm first on the list at a local dealer (or so they say, who knows, they might be saying that to all) so I get dibs on that one. If it's not AT I'll probably take it ;) Unless they open orders with delivery in early June.
 
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Only to some extent. If they can link your mod to the problem in nearly any way it will void the warranty.
Even worse, dont even think about making a claim on insurance after an accident if you replace your brakes.
 
^It's tough to make a reasonable claim that better brakes made engine/tranny go bad. But that's OT so I'm gonna stop.
 
Kent
Only to some extent. If they can link your mod to the problem in nearly any way it will void the warranty.
Even worse, dont even think about making a claim on insurance after an accident if you replace your brakes.
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Do you not have to declare modifications like we do in the UK? In the UK the insurance company would be happy to pay out, as long as you'd told them the car was non-stock.
 
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Do you not have to declare modifications like we do in the UK? In the UK the insurance company would be happy to pay out, as long as you'd told them the car was non-stock.
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Only if you want coverage on that part. It doesnt necessarily ruin your policy but in this topic, if you change the brakes, dont report it, then rearend someone, you might not be covered (it all depends on the policy).
 
Usually in the US aftermarket parts are not covered under your car insurance. Some companies (like Progressive I believe) have a separate policy for said parts, and you have to keep the receipts.
 
You have to report the mods long before making a claim but in general you can have An endoresment for said mods. However, if the mod is not reported before a claim is made, the part will not be covered.
All that stuff aside, Id much rather change out wheels than brakes.
 
Kent
Only to some extent. If they can link your mod to the problem in nearly any way it will void the warranty.
Even worse, dont even think about making a claim on insurance after an accident if you replace your brakes.
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It will not void the warranty. All they can do is deny your claim.
Simply putting in better pads and better quality rotors will improve braking and likely fade. Guys do it with WRXs cause they have pretty crap stock pads/lines/master cylinder that flexes on the firewall. The normal stuff.
 
Why is it I always hate the title of this thread? Anyways...

eSZee
It will not void the warranty. All they can do is deny your claim.
Simply putting in better pads and better quality rotors will improve braking and likely fade. Guys do it with WRXs cause they have pretty crap stock pads/lines/master cylinder that flexes on the firewall. The normal stuff.
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There are stories of after-market parts voiding warranties, though the usual complaint you hear is from people with raised trucks. Of course, there is never anyone to provide documentation of it.

The most likely occurrence is the warranty will not technically be "voided," but they will indeed turn down your claim like said above...and once again, in most cases even that won't happen unless they can provide proof that the aftermarket part was the source of the problem.
 
disinfected
Why is it I always hate the title of this thread? Anyways...
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Because I am a master troll, duh :p

On the warranty bit, companies will work to find an excuse to avoid paying out on a claim. If they can remotely use different brakes to justify why something else failed, they will, Even if they have to stretch and pull, because it saves them money.
 
Though thankfully the title of this one hasn't changed much lately, unlike that thread with the weird pony imagery.

Anyhow, yes, it's a known fact that the dealer will do whatever they have to to avoid the claim and follow the guidelines of your warranty. (Kind of like when the 'new clutch' needed on my Spec V became a whole transmission without me agreeing to it.)
 
-> This 'BreezeFrees' thing sparked me an idea!

- I should get a old AE86/88 coupe
- Swap it with an all-motor EJ25 and 5-speed M/T from the GC 2.5RS
- Make it RWD
- Make it distinctive compared to the AE86/88 GT-S
- Install 'old' Subaru badges
- Customize badge named Alcyone BRZ
- Voila! An AE86 Alcyone BRZ!

^ :lol:
 
Being that your carrier doesnt do warranty work I am confident the insurance co. Will not void your warranty but like others said before, if they can link it they will void it.
 
Kent
Being that your carrier doesnt do warranty work I am confident the insurance co. Will not void your warranty but like others said before, if they can link it they will void it.
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I think what they can do, if they don't void it for undeclared mods in the UK, is if you have a crash they can insist the repair is made with original parts, rather than the parts you'd modified it with.

So crash your nice, shiny, undeclared TRD-equipped 86? Expect a nice, shiny, bog-standard one to be returned to you.
 
I want one.

When the official pictures were first released I didn't think much of it. It looked so much softer than the concept, but each time I look at it, it looks better. Now that I'm watching all these videos, I really want one. Road trips should be epic in this thing.
 
Bram Turismo
I want one.

When the official pictures were first released I didn't think much of it. It looked so much softer than the concept, but each time I look at it, it looks better. Now that I'm watching all these videos, I really want one. Road trips should be epic in this thing.
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Turbo's are a necessity for road trips. Whenever boredom kicks in, do a few pulls, have a few smiles, and wait 15 minutes before you end up having to entertain yourself again. Every summer and winter my friends and I make a 4 hour trip to Woodward camp in Pennsylvania and without an STi and R32, it'd be a 4 hour nap.
 
-> Wouldn't be great if there would be a front-engined, RWD, M/T comparison between these cars?

- '12 Subaru BRZ Premium
- '12 Mazda NC MX-5 Miata PHRT/Roadster Coupe
- '10 Mazda RX-8 Base (not R3) [archival purposes]
- '09 Honda S2000 [archival purposes]
- '10 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T Base (200hp)
- '11 BMW 128i Coupe base
- '10 Nissan 370Z Base
- '09 Pontiac Solstice Coupe/Targa Base {non-turbo} [archival purposes]
- '98 Nissan S14 240SX SE [archival purposes]
- '85-'87 Toyota AE86/88 Corolla {Sport} GT-S coupe or hatch [archival purposes]

^ Only a buff-book like C/D, MT, or R&T could pull off a test like this. And why I picked (my highly likeable) BRZ instead of the FR-S? I would think that this comparison can be useful on a global perspective, 90% of the world doesn't know the 🤬 about Scion.
 
Well, I was able to see both the BRZ and FR-S today in Chicago...


For one, I don't think the photographs demonstrate the size of the vehicle all that well. It is very small, end to end, top to gravel. The car would be dwarfed by a Scion tC side-by-side, and I have to say that it is just fine. Its enough to be noticed, but not enough to stand out.

The FR-S was what we saw first, and I can't say that I noticed many things that were different from the photographs that we've gone over dozens of times. Up close, the wheels really do stand out, particularly the darker 17" ones that may be optional equipment. I also noticed that the distance between the end of the hood to the nose of the car was longer than I expected, nothing particularly bad, but it seemed to stand out more on the FR-S than the BRZ. The only other thing that stood out was the interior quality. It really doesn't look spectacular, but that is beside the point. You can't tell much from six feet away on a spinning turntable, but the graining looked a little hard/shallow compared to other Toyotas of late.

As for the BRZ, its much of the same story from the FR-S. The size is what caught me off-guard. The one shown off was the upmarket Premium model, and the fancy interior definitely stood out. The rear spoiler was a nice touch as well, but I don't know if it was really all that necessary compared to the bare tail that the FR-S had. Lastly, the plastic "nose" of the BRZ looked much better than I had expected, but the side vents looked a lot worse. Trade-offs, I suppose?


In the end, I'm still very excited for the car. But, my expectations have been tempered without a price. If they're really talking about $25K+ for the FR-S, it is something that'll seem a bit too high, whereas for the BRZ, it seems much more realistic. Seeing these on the street will be a pleasant change of pace, and I'm hoping it kicks off a trend with everyone else.

...And in that regard, after seeing the Chevrolet Code 130 R in person, the proportions are much better than the photographs suggest, and while being a bit bigger than the FR-S, it would be healthy competition that deserves to be given a better look by the beancounters.
 
I really liked the BRZ's color. It was probably the lighting but it looked a bit brighter than the WRB you see on the streets. As for the interior, it was the base BRZ, wasn't it?
 
R1600Turbo
Good size comparison photo:

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^^^^^

YSSMAN
Well, I was able to see both the BRZ and FR-S today in Chicago...

For one, I don't think the photographs demonstrate the size of the vehicle all that well. It is very small, end to end, top to gravel. The car would be dwarfed by a Scion tC side-by-side, and I have to say that it is just fine. Its enough to be noticed, but not enough to stand out.
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