Seasonals too hard. Is it only me?

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Is it only me or does anybody else find they're generally too hard?

I've tried one or two Seasonals, last one being the "European Race Car Expert Challenge" (4.95 miles/10 laps). After all that time spent I felt I wasted my time as I ended up on or near the bottom and got no credits for the time and effort.

The races are too hard and so too the time trials IMO as the slightest veer off track puts you in a serious disadvantage. I'm not encouraged to spend and waste my time.
 
I'm with you on the time trials thing, the boundaries that PD sets as DQ are not consistent at best, and sometimes just outright unbelievable. I will typically take a couple of shots at them, but living life is more important than spending hours or days playing a friggin' video game and trying to win a single event. However, my suggestion would be to scroll down and find out what cars and tunes people are using to win with if you are having an issue. This forum has a wealth of knowledge and tunes are widely available for cars if you're having consistent issues. I was getting absolutely slaughtered on Quick Match until another member here shared a tune for one of the races and I am consistently first or second (unless the idiot rammers are out doing nothing but ruining the races for everybody.)
 
After 4 or 5 days of sessioning the Nurburgring TT and getting DQ'd everytime, I finally pulled out a full lap with 7.30:5xx... It really is all about practice! I still can't find a car I like to take on the Andalusia Expert race so it still has no medal... These are EXPERT challenges and should be treated as such! Keep driving and eventually you'll master it! Good Luck! :cheers:
 
Like others have said learn the track and tune your car and their should be no issues.

With the race seasonal I went out in a stock XJ220 and couldn't even catch first but O began to learn the track and got faster as the laps went on and with a little rain which slowed the AI down greatly I caught them and won by over a minute.

As for the time trials, the Sierra one I'm not even going to comment on that lol. With the Nurburgring one just keep practicing and learning the track, I know previously I could do clean laps in fast cars with minimal issues but this seasonal is slightly different with the weather so at times you may need to be cautious. When I did it I thought lets be a little unique and not run a Honda NSX LM or Nissan GTR, I built up a Subaru Impreza Hatch to 550pp and did a time of 7:13 putting me in 66th at the time.

So to answer your question "Is it only me or does anybody else find they're generally too hard?"
They're aren't too hard, they may require some learning and tuning thats all. Keep at it and you'll be able to gold them 👍
 
Also, never give up. I have won some races I would have sworn I couldn't make up the time I lost on turn 3 or whatever. Also, the AI seems to lose their edge at the end, or bash into each other. Never give up.

Car choice is critical also.

But never stop trying to win the race. As long as it's fun. You will win a hard one and be hooked, at least that's what happened to me. Cheers.
 
i always try for & achieve gold in almost every seasonal

the ones i have missed, sometimes spectacularly, are the expert races, these you should read up on the forums to decide how to tune & what car to use

the other tip for ones with leaderboards is look at what car the top players are using, that makes things much easier, worst case is you spend 30min or an hour to get gold using such a car rather than picking one yourself
 
TheInfamousJEW6
After 4 or 5 days of sessioning the Nurburgring TT and getting DQ'd everytime, I finally pulled out a full lap with 7.30:5xx... It really is all about practice! I still can't find a car I like to take on the Andalusia Expert race so it still has no medal... These are EXPERT challenges and should be treated as such! Keep driving and eventually you'll master it! Good Luck! :cheers:
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For the Andalusia Race try the Bentley Speed 8 on Intermediate Tires, just drop the PP to enter the race. I won easily with it, I was 1:00 ahead of the rest of the pack.
 
1st reply has it.

On the vast majority of the EXPERT races you need to be on top of your game on every aspect.

You often need a superior car, you need to have the right tune, you need to know the track, you need to have the right pit strategy, you need to pass cars cleanly, you often even need the best luck when it comes to weather.

One question I often ask if... 'what time do I need to make to win the race?'

If I'm doing 1'25" for example and the guys here say you need sub 1'20" and I'm not getting that on a clear lap let alone race conditions, well then I'm not going to get that gold.

Its sheer maths and I dont get upset or whatever. Its just that GT often caters to the absolute GT prodigy, the guy whos been doing this since Gran Turismo 1 on the ps1.

Also this game, more than any other is brutal. I have been in some races in the position #8 up until the very end and thru sheer luck, I end up being #1 in the closing laps due to pit strategy whatever.

Its not the kind of game kids want these days... they want to start in say 3rd place then get 1st on Turn 1 and then cruise to the end.
 
I am one of those guys lol. Still some things like the fan car at Sierra are over the top for me. I know I can do it though. I just choose to skip it right now lol. Well I will be honest. I broke a controller trying lol. plus calloused my thumb up real good. Everything else I got done in short order on a fresh ds3. I already hear it cracking though lol.

The biggest point is to know YOU can do it! The right car helps for sure. Normal car cup on GT1 was easy with a Viper... impossible with a Demio for an analogy lol.

Just don't give up. Take a break for a day or 2 if you get burned out. I am taking one now lol.

Sorry if this post seems to ramble on everyone. I just wanted to say something since I am one of those been there since GT1 players.
 
TonyJZX
1st reply has it.

On the vast majority of the EXPERT races you need to be on top of your game on every aspect.

You often need a superior car, you need to have the right tune, you need to know the track, you need to have the right pit strategy, you need to pass cars cleanly, you often even need the best luck when it comes to weather.

One question I often ask if... 'what time do I need to make to win the race?'

If I'm doing 1'25" for example and the guys here say you need sub 1'20" and I'm not getting that on a clear lap let alone race conditions, well then I'm not going to get that gold.

Its sheer maths and I dont get upset or whatever. Its just that GT often caters to the absolute GT prodigy, the guy whos been doing this since Gran Turismo 1 on the ps1.

Also this game, more than any other is brutal. I have been in some races in the position #8 up until the very end and thru sheer luck, I end up being #1 in the closing laps due to pit strategy whatever.

Its not the kind of game kids want these days... they want to start in say 3rd place then get 1st on Turn 1 and then cruise to the end.
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I follow a similar strategy to TonyJZX - I look at what lap time I can achieve and if it is obviously going to take a lot of laps to get down to that time I skip the event. The difficulty level does seem to be very variable - sometimes the intermediate is harder than the expert, sometimes the expert can be done on the first attempt, but sometimes I'm a country mile off so with those I give up very quickly - too much to do to spend time flogging a dead horse as they say!
 
No it's not just you, Training helps a lot. If I want to be good at something then I train a lot on that circuit. If something attracts me less than I am struggling to get gold. Is nothing new, but if you want to come in the top 50 then train train train... And learn the track. And sometimes a little luck:cheers:.
 
davidt33
Is it only me or does anybody else find they're generally too hard?

I've tried one or two Seasonals, last one being the "European Race Car Expert Challenge" (4.95 miles/10 laps). After all that time spent I felt I wasted my time as I ended up on or near the bottom and got no credits for the time and effort.

The races are too hard and so too the time trials IMO as the slightest veer off track puts you in a serious disadvantage. I'm not encouraged to spend and waste my time.
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If it makes you feel any better, that race kicked my ass when I just grabbed any old car with no tune and tried it (system defaulting me to RH tires). I didn't know the track at all, and really, there was nothing I could do to win. However, after selecting the right car, with the right tune, the right tires, and learning the track, I easily trounce them by over a minute and a half. I think PD wants us to think the race is impossible without some real thought and practice, and to that end I'm happy that they want that. Only certain people will accept failure, and certain people will not. Just do what I do...

- Select the right car
- Select the right tune (Priano / Exeter for me)
- Select the right tires
- Learn the track
- Practice

WIN.

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davidt33
Is it only me or does anybody else find they're generally too hard?

I've tried one or two Seasonals, last one being the "European Race Car Expert Challenge" (4.95 miles/10 laps). After all that time spent I felt I wasted my time as I ended up on or near the bottom and got no credits for the time and effort.

The races are too hard and so too the time trials IMO as the slightest veer off track puts you in a serious disadvantage. I'm not encouraged to spend and waste my time.
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They're pretty brutal, lets be honest! I've tried (only once though) to do the A-Spec Expert American and I finished 9th, over 2 minutes behind the race leader. I don't know Death Valley at all, and the Panoz Esperante isn't a car I drive much, so it was a bit of a steep learning curve!

That said, as pretty much everyone else has already stated, the only way to gold most of these events is practice. I've had some seasonals where I've nailed it first or second time - and some where it's taken 25-30 attempts!
 
davidt33
Is it only me or does anybody else find they're generally too hard?

I've tried one or two Seasonals, last one being the "European Race Car Expert Challenge" (4.95 miles/10 laps). After all that time spent I felt I wasted my time as I ended up on or near the bottom and got no credits for the time and effort.

The races are too hard and so too the time trials IMO as the slightest veer off track puts you in a serious disadvantage. I'm not encouraged to spend and waste my time.
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Yes and no, Yes these holliday seasonals (because these last 6 are from the holliday seasonals) are hard, just like last years holliday seasonals.
No, you get mucho millions if you gold one of these holliday seasonals, more then normal seasonals.
So the reason for these parameters is the payout, The higher the payout is, the harder the task is.


Just wait for the 14th, we will get new seasonals and my guess they are the normal difficulty and pay the normal ammount again.
And like said in the previous posts, Practice, practice and more practice.
 
I should note that I don't race every seasonal challenge because some of them just aren't enjoyable for me. The new one with the Red Bull Fan Car might be a perfect example. I could beat that race, but I don't like that track, and hate that car, so since there is no merit in me winning that race, I didn't even finish a full lap...and haven't gone back. A big part of why I play GT is because it's 'fun', and without that component, I simply have no need.
 
UltimateLurker
I should note that I don't race every seasonal challenge because some of them just aren't enjoyable for me. The new one with the Red Bull Fan Car might be a perfect example. I could beat that race, but I don't like that track, and hate that car, so since there is no merit in me winning that race, I didn't even finish a full lap...and haven't gone back. A big part of why I play GT is because it's 'fun', and without that component, I simply have no need.
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I have the same, I can win gold at Sierra and the ring but it does not appeal to me.
 
Kossie
I have the same, I can win gold at Sierra and the ring but it does not appeal to me.
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I like The Ring for some odd reason, maybe it's because it's famous, maybe because I have it memorized so it's easier for me. In any case, it's more about the car than the track, if I have a great driving car that I feel I can really extract some potential from, the track isn't that big of a deal. The Red Bull Fan Car is just about the worst car on the game IMO, so I don't do those races.
 
What about a super lap(TT) at Monza or the Batch ? That would be fun. I hope they give us a funny TT :cheers:
 
Jack002
I agree, they're too hard. The TT in nurb is impossible for me. Death valley over Christmas, it crashes with ding ding ding when it should pay you. I hate it.
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The TT on the ring is/was not easy.... But.. I get gold there and I'm not a specialist at that track. Is it difficult and hard? Yes. Impossible? No. And that's why they call it a expert challange.
 
GT6 does an ok job trying to deliver something for everyone. However, my one gripe is why don't they give you extra money for handicapping yourself. It felt good on GT5 to win big with a slow car. No such perk anymore. It drove you to get better. What I am saying is, the beginner event is generally easy at the PP cap. So, if there was incentive to race under the cap you would be challenged more. So you get better without even realising it since it is an easy race, right? Before you know it the Intermediate race becomes easy at the cap. You get better since that prize is out there. Money is a powerful motivator even when it is just game currency lol.
 
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LM7325
GT6 does an ok job trying to deliver something for everyone. However, my one gripe is why don't they give you extra money for handicapping yourself. It felt good on GT5 to win big with a slow car. No such perk anymore. It drove you to get better. What I am saying is, the beginner event is generally easy at the PP cap. So, if there was incentive to race under the cap you would be challenged more. So you get better without even realising it since it is an easy race, right? Before you know it the Intermediate race becomes easy at the cap. You get better since that prize is out there. Money is a powerful motivator even when it is just game currency lol.
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I always enjoyed that mechanic in GT5, it was a lot of fun to see how low you can get the PP value and still win. No real reason to do it in GT6 other than bragging rights.

As for the difficulty of the seasonal events, I don't think they're too hard, but the AI can make them incredibly frustrating when they cannot handle the cars on the track properly and ram into you or spin and block the road. The difference between fields of opponents is also frustrating at times because you can back out and try again with exactly the same car and get a completely different result even if you run the same overall race time. The current expert seasonal is a good example of this because one field of cars is about 10 seconds quicker than the other.

I still enjoy doing most of them and having a play in photomode afterwards, the credits are nice too, even though I own a lot of cars and my garage is basically full.
 
The AI in general are reactive once you pass them. Until that point most of the time they are just a drone on a pre set trip lol. Oh they will jockey for position a little, but they could do that on GT1...




I agree that the AI spoils it on the expert events. Race driver Grid had some of the best AI opponents I ever encountered on a console racer. They were intelligent, made mistakes if you stayed on their tail the same way human drivers do lol. Even if you backed the difficulty down thsy would be a few car lengths back waiting. If only we could have AI like that...
 
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I find most are about right, other than the Nurburgring and the Sierra x2014 races... I tend to knock most out the first or second try since my cars have been mostly optimized, needing only final drive and tire changes. When they throw in new tracks it makes it much more challenging, showing how important track time is.

But for me, Nurburgring is my nemesis. Mental or just track time, who knows. But once the cars get to serious power levels and speeds it seems like the track is too narrow and I have too many offs. I only gave it 6 laps and my best is a 6th place. Might try it again tonight...enjoying the 500pp QM's more right now though.
 
wedjim
I find most are about right, other than the Nurburgring and the Sierra x2014 races... I tend to knock most out the first or second try since my cars have been mostly optimized, needing only final drive and tire changes. When they throw in new tracks it makes it much more challenging, showing how important track time is.

But for me, Nurburgring is my nemesis. Mental or just track time, who knows. But once the cars get to serious power levels and speeds it seems like the track is too narrow and I have too many offs. I only gave it 6 laps and my best is a 6th place. Might try it again tonight...enjoying the 500pp QM's more right now though.
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It is mental. Nurburgring used to me my most hated track back in GT4. After years of training on this track, its now my most loved track.
 

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