Should Formula 1 drivers have their own specific racing number?

No because some drivers will want numbers like 1 or 00
I doubt that would be a problem. The drivers would understand that the number 1 would be reserved for the World Champion, to be used at his discretion. Nobody in his right mind would be arrogant enough - well, maybe Alonso would be - to request the number 1 as his standard racing number.

As for the number 0, I doubt the FIA would have an issue with people using it. But how many people would want to?
 
Number O was used in two successive years at Williams because the 1992 (Mansell) and 1993 (Prost) Champions left both the team (Williams) and Formula 1. So, they replaced the #1 car with the #0.

Because of this discussion I just checked something that left me puzzled. Because I know that Jackie Stewart left the sport with his last title (1973), I went to check if #0 and #2 had been also used in 1974's Tyrrels. Turns out they weren't.
- Tyrrel kept their #3 and #4
- No #0 car
- Lotus used #1 and #2 with, respectively, Ronnie Peterson and Jackie Ickx.


I tried to find an answer for this oddity but had no luck. So I'm left with my own guesswork. And what I can guess is that, without the WDC racing in 1974, #1 and #2 were given to the 1973 WCC team: Lotus.



Here a pic. #1 atributed to the WCC team. It should be said that Ronnie didn't make the number look bad at all, he would've been a well deserving WDC himself.
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I think a simple solution would be to colour co-ordinate the back of the mirrors with the T-Bar so driver 1 has red mirrors and T-Bar and driver 2 has yellow mirrors and T-Bar, teams won't lose sponsor space and cars are easily recognisable to spectators.

Oh god, can you imagine? The drivers themselves have enough trouble being branded "driver one" and "driver two" without marking them out as such...

"But I thought I was driver number one in this team?"

"I'm sorry Lewis, you can have your red mirrors back when you stop crashing into stuff..."
 
In 2 minds about this, but I keep being drawn back to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory... It isn't hampering F1, in the same way that using numbers is not hampering other sports. A sudden change could provoke something like that though.

If I did ever get into a racing career at any level, I think my helmet design would be a well thought out and personal process. I wouldn't just want some old basic design becoming synonymous with my name, when I feel that it reflects the driver. When watching racing I do like seeing the drivers helmet choice and seeing if it reflects their on track style. Its why I worry about Vettel changing his so often, its clearly not as personal to him and just a status symbol. I can change it, therefore I will change it... This week I like a red and blue design!

There are drivers that care about the number though clearly, Schumacher is supposedly superstitious of having an even number on his car. It has a whiff of "pulling rank" about it to though....
 
Personally I always thought the big black plain numbers on big white meatballs worked pretty well for identifying drivers, even for people not intimately familiar with the sport.

The number 1 should be reserved for the current World Champion, that's traditional and should be preserved. As for who gets what number other than 1, doesn't really matter to me.

For what it's worth, if anything, I will always associate the number 43 with Richard Petty. Something to be said for the way NASCAR does it.
 
Why don't they just give the driver a helmet that is your own template with room for sponsor stickers with a giant number at the top? So basically like a helmet with a bunch of stripes, you keep it for the rest of your racing career, but you can add sponsor stickers to it and remove them to get new ones? And a giant number sticker on the top of your helmet, or maybe on the T-cap. I just don't want too much helmet changes in the season, it can get confusing (Vettel :grumpy:). It's basically the only way to see other than recognizing the helmet colors, team, and T-cap color. Although it works well on factory Mercedes team, yellow T-cap and bright yellow helmet for Rosberg, Red T-cap and obviously red helmet for Schumacher!

Oh wait, 💡

How about helmet colors matching T-cap colors?! :sly:
 
Oh god, can you imagine? The drivers themselves have enough trouble being branded "driver one" and "driver two" without marking them out as such...

"But I thought I was driver number one in this team?"

"I'm sorry Lewis, you can have your red mirrors back when you stop crashing into stuff..."

They have to paint the T-Bar anyway, it'll just be the same but more visable.
 
Even though I'm a tradtionalist, I really wouldn't mind drivers picking their own number. It gives them a little more of an "identity". F1 used numbers based on the order of entry of cars to appear. Sometimes the local team got the lowest numbers. Sometimes they were all odd, or all even, or like the 1952 and '53 German GP's, they did the triple-digit thing:

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Still, with F1, few numbers are attached to drivers. Stirling Moss ran with #7 a lot of the time, and Gilles Villeneuve sued #27 quite a long time with the Scuderia. (Although, in 1980, he used #2, but that 312T5 car was a dog...everyone remembers the Gilles of 1978-79, and the CK126 of 1981-82.) The thing is, even in NASCAR's elite category...eventually, numbers are going to have to be re-used. Richard Petty's car still runs with #43, although for a few years after his retirement, nobody used it. The number 3 can't be the only number reserved forever. Or will it? (I suppose that's a discussion for another thread.)

What about Ayrton Senna? Did plenty of winning with car number 12, then 1 (naturally), then 27, and 8..because in mid-1973, that's how F1 went with the next numbering system. World champ gets the 1, his teammate the 2, and everyone more or less stays put, unless they enter more cars than fit in their allotment.

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Because of this discussion I just checked something that left me puzzled. Because I know that Jackie Stewart left the sport with his last title (1973), I went to check if #0 and #2 had been also used in 1974's Tyrrels. Turns out they weren't.
- Tyrrel kept their #3 and #4
- No #0 car
- Lotus used #1 and #2 with, respectively, Ronnie Peterson and Jackie Ickx.

I tried to find an answer for this oddity but had no luck.

Actually, Ronnie Peterson was the last non-world champ driver to regularly race with the Number 1 on his car. But who was the last? John Watson, when he subbed for an injured Niki Lauda at the 1985 European GP at Brands Hatch:

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John Watson McLaren European GP Brands Hatch 1985 by festerchinley at Flickr

(Oh, what would have happened had Alain Prost been happier at Renault in 1983? Would Wattie be driving that Number 1 car for McLaren on a permanent basis? Who knows...)

There's also one other time the Number Zero was raced...in 1973, McLaren ran a third car for a couple of races, sometimes using the number 30, but also a zero for two races:

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It was Jody Scheckter driving, and then went to Tyrrell the following year. And like Damon Hill, he eventually became World Champion. Not so unlucky, after all?

And if you'd like to see what numbers have been the most successful, play around with this site (it might make your eyes hurt, though). Anyone up for using #208 again?

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As for the helmets...enforcement is a bad idea. Let them free to make their helmets as ugly as they wish. That said, very few use "simple" designs anymore, most drivers have an unrecognizable mish-mash that can't be discerned at high speeds, but that's just my two cents. Once they're famous, the design doesn't really matter much to attract sponsors to continue their climb up the racing ladder; they can do what ever they want because they're famous already. The only way I can tell Vettel's helmet is by seeing that Webber's traditional yellow above the visor, so it must not be him.

Lewis Hamilton has one of the simpler designs, and Bruno Senna, naturally. Sponsors have taken up more helmet area, and to be fair, the higher cockpit sides block more of the viewable area. Looking at those older photos above show just how out-of-control and scrambled helmet painting has become...but really, I think the FIA be worried more about helmet safety standards, rather than colors and arbitrary rules like that.
 
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Basically my outlook on this is this - how does everyone remember Graham Hill? Ayrton Senna? Even Lewis Hamilton or Fernando Alonso? When you look at a car they are driving, you know its them not by the car number (where the car number is plainly visible) but by their helmet design. Drivers should be encouraged to use more consistent and distinctive helmet designs.

Famous helmet designs are definitely a part of Formula 1, one that many of us love. But a helmet is completely a driver's choice to express their own personality, and in fact, with liveried cars and suits, the only part of their attire or car they can do so (aside from maybe gloves). It would be impossible for the FIA to regulate and mandate a consistent structure for driver's helmet designs. For example, Lewis's current helmet is still distinctly Lewis Hamilton, but is different from before, same with JB.

How much freedom would the drivers have to develop or evolve a design? Would you have to bring out rulers and protractors to ensure a band or stripe on the helmet wasn't getting too big, or an angle getting steeper? What if a driver wants the same design in a chrome or matte finish? What if Grahame Hill wanted to make the oars on his helmet bigger, or add something else that he felt represented him (as with Lewis adding the Grenadian and British flags), how much change is too much, and how could the FIA enforce any regulations?
 
And Vettel changes his helmet all the time as well. Personally I could go both ways on the driver number issue. One reason makes sense for practicality, but I also like that the number 1 driver gets #1, makes it worth something more.
 
I also like that the number 1 driver gets #1, makes it worth something more.
Why do people assume that it's going to be a case of one or the other? If a custom number system were introduced for Formula 1, it would no doubt be modelled on the systems used by series like MotoGP, Indycar and V8 Supercars: drivers are free to choose any number they like, except for the number one. The number one is put in reserve and given to the reigning champion. There is no danger that someone will want to use the number one exclusively as their regular racing number, because the rules will be written in such a way to prevent it from happening. It works in MotoGP, it works in Indycar and it works in V8 Supercars. I see no reason why it cannot work in Formula 1.
 
Yeah, but I like that every driver gets their position number, not just the #1 guy.
That's not how it works. Sebastian Vettel won the 2010 championship, and was given the number one. However, Mark Webber is number two when he finished third overall. In fact, the guy who finished second - Alonso - is number five. The current numbers are not given based on drivers' championship positions. They're given based on constructors' championship positions.
 
That's not how it works. Sebastian Vettel won the 2010 championship, and was given the number one. However, Mark Webber is number two when he finished third overall. In fact, the guy who finished second - Alonso - is number five. The current numbers are not given based on drivers' championship positions. They're given based on constructors' championship positions.


Yes, I'm aware. I like that, because the cars should theoretically be suited to the numbers they're given since they are built by the same teams. Hamilton's car, for example, is often faster than he actually finishes :sly:. I don't deny that bad drivers could then throw off the numbering system if they lose their team constructor's points, but I think it balances out somewhat in the end.

But basically I don't like the idea of custom numbers with the exception of the #1 (or however many top finishers) either. Either give everyone custom numbers, or use some other system. In the end, the numbers are used to identify the cars. If they make them more visible it's not a big deal how they are numbered.
 
It was good in the past when the nose of the car sloped down, that area is gone now so the space for the number is too, but the 'fangs' style front wing is banned from 2013 onwards so maybe we'll see numbers on the front return.
Sponsors are good at ruining things, it's their fault the winner's wreath is gone.

Not sure what to make of number options, it's nice to have drivers who become synonymous with a number, but adding a 3rd digit would turn F1 into a freak show imo.
Maybe that idea mentioned before of 0-99 could work, with a 20 year lockout rule on a world champion's or long-serving/special driver's number.
 
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