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@Hayden I'm going to say just talk to her. I know I say that a lot and to a lot of members here, but really talk to her.

Now I understand that you miss being online with your friends but let's face it, you have her, and other responsibilities, I don't think you can really be online from sun up to sun down anymore. Nor can you put in the same amount of wrench time.

Talk to her.

Point out the more major issues/concerns, which for me would be your physical health.

As with all relationships you have to compromise. So if you want to work out, and get fit again, but she wants to spend time with you, bring her along. Take her with you to the gym.

Take her with you to the garage, hang out. You can work on the car, while she sits close by. No need to feel like you're pushing her away. Get her involved in your hobbies AND vice versa, don't forget that.
 
@Team THRT Drift- Thanks for the reply, I definitely agree with everything you've said. I've tried mentioning things in passing before but It don't think it comes across as seriously as it probably needs too.

It seems obvious now, but I'll try having a proper conversation with her about it. Thanks for that mate :)
 
@Team THRT Drift- Thanks for the reply, I definitely agree with everything you've said. I've tried mentioning things in passing before but It don't think it comes across as seriously as it probably needs too.

It seems obvious now, but I'll try having a proper conversation with her about it. Thanks for that mate :)


Anytime Hayden, we're here :)
 
@Hayden the thing is, we're not even in the same group of friends. I only unfriended her on Path and she made a big fuss of it, even claiming that i "blocked" her when i didn't. I didn't block her on Whatsapp and Line, i didn't even unfollow her Instagram. Even her friends hated me for unfriending her. I found out about it when i just started contacting her again just to try to keep on good terms.

After this i think i'm just gonna stay away then.
 
@Hayden the thing is, we're not even in the same group of friends. I only unfriended her on Path and she made a big fuss of it, even claiming that i "blocked" her when i didn't. I didn't block her on Whatsapp and Line, i didn't even unfollow her Instagram. Even her friends hated me for unfriending her. I found out about it when i just started contacting her again just to try to keep on good terms.

After this i think i'm just gonna stay away then.
Okay in this case that's best.
 
So I got a late start in school. I can't remember what age I was when I started kindergarten but I'm currently 20 years old and a senior in high school. That late start, especially if today's little situation is any indication, is going to get in the way a lot this year. More than it has in previous years.

Today a girl walked up to me and told me she's had her eye on me "pretty much since school started" as she said. She told me she thought I was really cute and she heard a couple things about me that she liked and found out they were true thanks to her talking to two of my friends. Then she said she'd love to go out with me, and asked me on a date. First time any girl has ever said such a thing to me and the first time I've ever been asked out. Before I said yes or no, mentioned my age. She didn't know and she said she was 16, so I had to say no and I told her I was already interested in someone else, which was the honest truth. However I told her that I'd still be willing to at least just get to know her as friends if she wanted to, and she seemed pretty content with it. She's a really pretty girl too, and if it wasn't for the age gap and the fact that I already have someone else in mind, I probably would've said yes. But anyway....

We couldn't say anything more because we both had to go our separate ways and get to class on time, so that was the end of that exchange for the day. We didn't trade numbers or anything as she's in two of my classes and see each other in the halls at least once on most days so it's not like we lost an opportunity to start talking to one another. Question is, did I make a mistake or something by telling her that we could still be friends? I feel like I did but I'm not sure if it's my mind telling me that or I truly did make a mistake. Just would kinda like to know for sure. :indiff:
 
So I got a late start in school. I can't remember what age I was when I started kindergarten but I'm currently 20 years old and a senior in high school. That late start, especially if today's little situation is any indication, is going to get in the way a lot this year. More than it has in previous years.

Today a girl walked up to me and told me she's had her eye on me "pretty much since school started" as she said. She told me she thought I was really cute and she heard a couple things about me that she liked and found out they were true thanks to her talking to two of my friends. Then she said she'd love to go out with me, and asked me on a date. First time any girl has ever said such a thing to me and the first time I've ever been asked out. Before I said yes or no, mentioned my age. She didn't know and she said she was 16, so I had to say no and I told her I was already interested in someone else, which was the honest truth. However I told her that I'd still be willing to at least just get to know her as friends if she wanted to, and she seemed pretty content with it. She's a really pretty girl too, and if it wasn't for the age gap and the fact that I already have someone else in mind, I probably would've said yes. But anyway....

We couldn't say anything more because we both had to go our separate ways and get to class on time, so that was the end of that exchange for the day. We didn't trade numbers or anything as she's in two of my classes and see each other in the halls at least once on most days so it's not like we lost an opportunity to start talking to one another. Question is, did I make a mistake or something by telling her that we could still be friends? I feel like I did but I'm not sure if it's my mind telling me that or I truly did make a mistake. Just would kinda like to know for sure. :indiff:
To be honest, you were completely honest to her about the situation. And I think she got an answer she was okay with. That's a rare case, if I think right. Most girls I've been friends with in high school didn't handle the 'No' anywhere near the same way your friend did.
 
Ugh... How hard can it be to just talk to a girl?

Sometimes I wonder if I'm really this socially awkward when I'm struggling to create something as little as a conversation with a girl.

She works at the local swimming pool, and I swim about 3-5 times a week. Every time I assure myself this time I'm going to grab the courage and just talk to her, and show some sign of interest from my side. Then she looks me in the eye, and I just choke and cut the conversation short myself.

I'm doing triathlons, yet here I stand unable to utter a word when facing a woman. Good gracious me...
 
Ugh... How hard can it be to just talk to a girl?

Sometimes I wonder if I'm really this socially awkward when I'm struggling to create something as little as a conversation with a girl.

She works at the local swimming pool, and I swim about 3-5 times a week. Every time I assure myself this time I'm going to grab the courage and just talk to her, and show some sign of interest from my side. Then she looks me in the eye, and I just choke and cut the conversation short myself.

I'm doing triathlons, yet here I stand unable to utter a word when facing a woman. Good gracious me...
I'm pretty much the exact same way. It definitely doesn't help at all.
 
On the discussion of keeping one's identity, how do you guys feel is the correct tactic to reeling back a little bit of free time? My girlfriend and I moved away to the city together (due to me changing jobs), leaving behind all our friends and family. I've always been extremely independent, as I thought she was, but after living with her for a while I'd identify her as possessive. While that is fine and comes with a long list of upsides, I feel slightly suffocated at times.

Prior to the relationship I'd spend weekends on the PlayStation with friends sun up to sun down, work on my car during the week nights and still find time to get- then keep myself fit and healthy. Not to mention the immense difference in disposable income from then to now.

Giving the circumstances I feel almost guilty for wanting to do anything that doesn't involve her, because I'm the reason we are up here and all she ever wants to do is spend time with me. There is small compromises of course, but at the end of the day I do occasionally miss the old days. My PlayStation friends think I'm a ghost, I haven't turned a spanner on my convertible for ages and my health and fitness are being negatively affected by the convenience of living in the big city and with someone that has some bad habits. That last one is something that's really eating at me, after working so hard to get myself to a happy place physically, I'm almost back to square one. Its depressing to say the very least.

All this aside, I am very happy with our relationship and where we are at after 2 years. But I feel like this hanging thought is what's stopping me from getting on one knee. I believe that subconsciously I'm afraid of committing entirely to a future that, in certain ways, isn't as good as my singleton past.

Thanks for letting me vent and I appreciate any feedback and experienced advice. Even if it is to just harden up and take charge :lol:
You feel guilty doing things without her.
You haven't worked on your car in ages.
Your health and fitness are both suffering.
It's depressing.
You're very happy with your relationship.

Which statement doesn't belong?:odd::lol:. IMO you can't be happy for too long in a relationship, nor bring your best to it, if you are not happy as an individual first and with a life outside of that relationship. Entering into a relationship, no matter how good it is, and giving up pretty much everything that you loved before that relationship, is never going to end well. Worse, you've set her up for months and months into thinking that you no longer have a life outside of her and that she is all you need in life to be happy. It's not going to be easy to get some of your life and individuality back but you have to do it for your own sake, and, ultimately, for hers and the relationship.
Today a girl walked up to me and told me she's had her eye on me "pretty much since school started" as she said. She told me she thought I was really cute and she heard a couple things about me that she liked and found out they were true thanks to her talking to two of my friends. Then she said she'd love to go out with me, and asked me on a date. First time any girl has ever said such a thing to me and the first time I've ever been asked out. Before I said yes or no, mentioned my age. She didn't know and she said she was 16, so I had to say no and I told her I was already interested in someone else, which was the honest truth. However I told her that I'd still be willing to at least just get to know her as friends if she wanted to, and she seemed pretty content with it. She's a really pretty girl too, and if it wasn't for the age gap and the fact that I already have someone else in mind, I probably would've said yes. But anyway....

We couldn't say anything more because we both had to go our separate ways and get to class on time, so that was the end of that exchange for the day. We didn't trade numbers or anything as she's in two of my classes and see each other in the halls at least once on most days so it's not like we lost an opportunity to start talking to one another. Question is, did I make a mistake or something by telling her that we could still be friends? I feel like I did but I'm not sure if it's my mind telling me that or I truly did make a mistake. Just would kinda like to know for sure. :indiff:
Your mistake wasn't telling her that you could still be friends. Your mistake was not going out with her. :lol:
 
You feel guilty doing things without her.
You haven't worked on your car in ages.
Your health and fitness are both suffering.
It's depressing.
You're very happy with your relationship.

Which statement doesn't belong?:odd::lol:. IMO you can't be happy for too long in a relationship, nor bring your best to it, if you are not happy as an individual first and with a life outside of that relationship. Entering into a relationship, no matter how good it is, and giving up pretty much everything that you loved before that relationship, is never going to end well. Worse, you've set her up for months and months into thinking that you no longer have a life outside of her and that she is all you need in life to be happy. It's not going to be easy to get some of your life and individuality back but you have to do it for your own sake, and, ultimately, for hers and the relationship.
It's hard to explain, but I honestly am happy in the relationship. Granted, the freedom of the past is gone, and It is having negative affects on me personally. As far as relationships and people go though, I don't think I could ever be happier with anybody else. We click extremely well and she's a great person.

The issue, as it is, stems mostly from how the relationship started. We lived 150kms apart which meant we could only spend weekends together and naturally, we ended up spending pretty much every weekend together. When we moved in together to a new place where neither of us knew anybody, It just became like a never ending weekend.

We had a discussion and as suggested by @Team THRT Drift I floated the idea of going to the gym together. We have tried similar things before but bad habits die hard and we're both pretty casual people. This time I've made it clear that failure is realistically not an option for me and I feel like we're coming into this with more vigor than before.

I decided the other issues could wait and to address the one I feel is most important first. As I said, I am happy in the relationship,I didn't want to give her the impression that I was miserable and had a long list of issues.
 
It's hard to explain, but I honestly am happy in the relationship. Granted, the freedom of the past is gone, and It is having negative affects on me personally. As far as relationships and people go though, I don't think I could ever be happier with anybody else. We click extremely well and she's a great person.

The issue, as it is, stems mostly from how the relationship started. We lived 150kms apart which meant we could only spend weekends together and naturally, we ended up spending pretty much every weekend together. When we moved in together to a new place where neither of us knew anybody, It just became like a never ending weekend.

We had a discussion and as suggested by @Team THRT Drift I floated the idea of going to the gym together. We have tried similar things before but bad habits die hard and we're both pretty casual people. This time I've made it clear that failure is realistically not an option for me and I feel like we're coming into this with more vigor than before.

I decided the other issues could wait and to address the one I feel is most important first. As I said, I am happy in the relationship,I didn't want to give her the impression that I was miserable and had a long list of issues.

That's good Hayden! At least it's a big step in the right direction.
 
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That's good Hayden! At least it's a big step in the right direction.



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So I recently made her cry :(:banghead:


Before you judge, or anything like that, what I was trying to say came out horrifically wrong.


I've always lived by the "Acta non verba" motto. I've tried to stick to this almost religiously. However when it comes to showing affection, I also like to say it verbally. I grew up saying it verbally with my parents, almost every day. So naturally with Audrey I say it everyday.

During our time apart in those horrible 4 months, I wouldn't hesitate to tell her that I loved her. Not one bit. At that time I wanted to ensure that she had no doubts.

Now we're back together, and extremely happy, happier than before. However, Audrey likes to show her affection rather than say it a lot, and that's understandable I know where she's coming from.

We were on the way home in the car and I said I love you, and she said it back. No surprise, she's said it plenty of times before.


What I was trying to say is that it was nice to hear it from her. I love when she calls me the nicknames from our chats and says that she loves me, etc. Yeah yeah I'm a poor sap, whatever.

But what actually came out was something close to "I don't believe you love me because you never say it"

(Not my words exactly, but it sure sounded like that)

And this made her bawl. I've never felt more like an ass hat in my life. I pulled the car over immediately and started to comfort her. I'll be honest, that was a horrible misunderstanding, caused by horrible phrasing.


Now she's saying it more and I feel like an ass because I don't want her to change that way. I never want it to feel forced.

I talked to her about it and she's perfectly fine with saying it, and it never felt forced for her.








Sorry for this.. incoherent little bit but I just felt I needed some humility and get it off my chest.
Well, I have to give you props for owning up to your mistake on such a public forum.
 
Lately, I haven't really been interested in anyone, other than simple attraction. I mean at least with the girl from earlier there was a goal, even if it did cause moderate depression, it was a goal none the less. Now I just feel aimless.

The girl from High School that I ran into over the summer, and mentioned here before is the main subject of my attention. However I assume she is back at college because I never see her at her work anymore. (she works at a restaurant on my way to and from work.) I saw her there once later at night when i got off of work late so I think she works later shifts now because of school. But that was only once so I'm not too sure. I'm not sure how to get into contact with her without contacting her on social media. I thought it might be a good idea to go to where she works and say something along the lines of: "Does she still work here?" "Yes she does. Why do you ask?" "Could you please tell her I said hi?" However I'm not entirely sure what that would accomplish.

Shes definitely someone that I am very happy around and can talk to very easily, but I'm just not sure how to go about this.
 
I know I haven't talked in detail about how things are going with my Girlfriend and that I haven't answered some of your kind replies. But what I have to tell and ask you know is very, very important.

I'm tired, exhausted, sad, devastated, etc. I want to move on from this. Every week, sometimes every 4, 3, 2 days, my gf comes up with something to start fights. For the last 12 months, there hasn't been a single week we haven't had some kind of disagreement, and to be honest, 95% of them are simply idiotic. It's no longer a matter if she mentally has this or that, if she suffers depression or not, if the hormones in her body make her extremely mad every time she has her period, NO. The fact is she is a terrible person.

She has accused me of being gay, fat, violent, childish, stupid, prone to punching her and our hypothetical kids, unfaithfull, has accused me of having an afair, has accused me of being lazy, has accused me of not wanting to be succesful, has accused of being mediocre, that she always has to say to me to do things that otherwise I wouln't do, that it was because of her I started my Masters Degree, accused me of not having enough money to make things happen, accused of not being interested in moving on with the weeding and things like that, accused me of only wanting ...

And not to mention some of the things, the "crimes" that have made her angry: Not having cash to pay a meal with her parents (I had my debit car that day, don't think I was broke that day), not having the world's most incredible marriage proposal, not having the engament ring she liked, not being able to pay for her own Master's Degree, not taking her hand at the doctor, not adressing her as my fiancé on an e-mail, not responding a whats app message early in the night (2am, when you can call me any time if there is a serious thing going on), asking her in the morning how she was feeling (yes, she did get mad once about that, the previous day she told me she thought she had a cold, and the next day when I asked how she felt, she got mad and said I didn't pay attention), joking about how expensive was a parking lot, joking about how I was not in time several days we met (all of them because of valid reasons)... you get the point, right?

I did everything for her, I put up with her rage, her insults, her lack of confidence on me, her whims, her disrespect to myself, my family, my dog, the way she made me fear her, every single of her desires... and now, she decided to make a great deal about something as STUPID as some Facebook likes one former co-worker gave to some of our pictures, to tell me I'm a liar and that I had an affair with her. I explained it everything to her, told her she did not have to worry because she isn't even a friend of mine, that she means nothing to me, that I'm completely loyal to her, that yeah, we worked together for a mere 4 months, that we did saw each other after leaving that job a few times just to see some job things and that yeah, I saw her like other like 3 other times but alongside other former job colleagues, but that's about it... didn't cheat her, told the truth, and she is still trying to make me feel horrible, that she was just the victim...

So, bottom line... did I really do wrong, did I cheated? Am I the monster she thinks I am? Should I really keep trying to make things right? I deserve the treatment I'm receiving?

I Love her, but I'm tired of dealing with this every single week...
 
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So, bottom line... did I really do wrong, did I cheated? Am I the monster she thinks I am? Should I really keep trying to make things right? I deserve the treatment I'm receiving?

To answer your questions
No
Not in the slightest
Never in a million years
Not even terrorists deserve that kind of torture.

Bottom line stay away from her, me personally, I would get a restraining order on that, but that's a bit extreme. In fact I would believe that the reverse is true of her cheating worries, I would say she is the one doing the cheating and then covering it by aggressively "worrying" about you doing it.

Get out, stay away, and refuse all contact, be safe good sir.
 
Mate. Run. I'm getting a ton of red flags reading your post. If that isn't an abusive relationship, I don't know what the hell it is.

I know. I mean, not everything has been bad, we've had wonderful days, very good dates, 2 very good vacation trips, we've really really shared beautiful moments, we've been there for each other, we've been happy, when she is on the mood, she a lovely girl. When "things go wrong", on the other hand, she turns into the devil...

That right there is the top of the iceberg, week in and week out, she outdoes herself with stupid reasons to start fights...
 
I know. I mean, not everything has been bad, we've had wonderful days, very good dates, 2 very good vacation trips, we've really really shared beautiful moments, we've been there for each other, we've been happy, when she is on the mood, she a lovely girl. When "things go wrong", on the other hand, she turns into the devil...

That right there is the top of the iceberg, week in and week out, she outdoes herself with stupid reasons to start fights...
To answer your questions
No
Not in the slightest
Never in a million years
Not even terrorists deserve that kind of torture.

Bottom line stay away from her, me personally, I would get a restraining order on that, but that's a bit extreme. In fact I would believe that the reverse is true of her cheating worries, I would say she is the one doing the cheating and then covering it by aggressively "worrying" about you doing it.

Get out, stay away, and refuse all contact, be safe good sir.
I have been in your exact shoes, Molieg. I have an ex who did exactly the same stuff your girlfriend is doing. I was stupid and didn't figure it out, and by the time she was gone, I was a different person. This was four years ago and I still haven't recovered.
 
I know I haven't talked in detail about how things are going with my Girlfriend and that I haven't answered some of your kind replies. But what I have to tell and ask you know is very, very important.

I'm tired, exhausted, sad, devastated, etc. I want to move on from this. Every week, sometimes every 4, 3, 2 days, my gf comes up with something to start fights. For the last 12 months, there hasn't been a single week we haven't had some kind of disagreement, and to be honest, 95% of them are simply idiotic. It's no longer a matter if she mentally has this or that, if she suffers depression or not, if the hormones in her body make her extremely mad every time she has her period, NO. The fact is she is a terrible person.

She has accused me of being gay, fat, violent, childish, stupid, prone to punching her and our hypothetical kids, unfaithfull, has accused me of having an afair, has accused me of being lazy, has accused me of not wanting to be succesful, has accused of being mediocre, that she always has to say to me to do things that otherwise I wouln't do, that it was because of her I started my Masters Degree, accused me of not having enough money to make things happen, accused of not being interested in moving on with the weeding and things like that, accused me of only wanting ...

And not to mention some of the things, the "crimes" that have made her angry: Not having cash to pay a meal with her parents (I had my debit car that day, don't think I was broke that day), not having the world's most incredible marriage proposal, not having the engament ring she liked, not being able to pay for her own Master's Degree, not taking her hand at the doctor, not adressing her as my fiancé on an e-mail, not responding a whats app message early in the night (2am, when you can call me any time if there is a serious thing going on), asking her in the morning how she was feeling (yes, she did get mad once about that, the previous day she told me she thought she had a cold, and the next day when I asked how she felt, she got mad and said I didn't pay attention), joking about how expensive was a parking lot, joking about how I was not in time several days we met (all of them because of valid reasons)... you get the point, right?

I did everything for her, I put up with her rage, her insults, her lack of confidence on me, her whims, her disrespect to myself, my family, my dog, the way she made me fear her, every single of her desires... and now, she decided to make a great deal about something as STUPID as some Facebook likes one former co-worker gave to some of our pictures, to tell me I'm a liar and that I had an affair with her. I explained it everything to her, told her she did not have to worry because she isn't even a friend of mine, that she means nothing to me, that I'm completely loyal to her, that yeah, we worked together for a mere 4 months, that we did saw each other after leaving that job a few times just to see some job things and that yeah, I saw her like other like 3 other times but alongside other former job colleagues, but that's about it... didn't cheat her, told the truth, and she is still trying to make me feel horrible, that she was just the victim...

So, bottom line... did I really do wrong, did I cheated? Am I the monster she thinks I am? Should I really keep trying to make things right? I deserve the treatment I'm receiving?

I Love her, but I'm tired of dealing with this every single week...

Minor disagreements and arguments in serious relationships are normal and perfectly healthy. However what's going on here is far from that. She seems absolutely nuts. It's terrible to hear the things she is saying to you, when threats and name calling enter these arguments, something is really wrong, especially as she is jealous and making insane demands. If I were you I would have left a long time ago.
 
To answer your questions
No
Not in the slightest
Never in a million years
Not even terrorists deserve that kind of torture.

Bottom line stay away from her, me personally, I would get a restraining order on that, but that's a bit extreme. In fact I would believe that the reverse is true of her cheating worries, I would say she is the one doing the cheating and then covering it by aggressively "worrying" about you doing it.

Get out, stay away, and refuse all contact, be safe good sir.

The restraining order would be too much, but you know what's crazy? My mom came up with the same idea.
And you are also the 2nd person that tells me that she might be hiding her own cheating.

I have been in your exact shoes, Molieg. I have an ex who did exactly the same stuff your girlfriend is doing. I was stupid and didn't figure it out, and by the time she was gone, I was a different person. This was four years ago and I still haven't recovered.

I hope I can get over her soon. I also hope you can recover from it too 👍

Minor disagreements and arguments in serious relationships are normal and perfectly healthy. However what's going on here is far from that. She seems absolutely nuts. It's terrible to hear the things she is saying to you, when threats and name calling enter these arguments, something is really wrong, especially as she is jealous and making insane demands. If I were you I would have left a long time ago.

She is. Fortunately, I'm preparing myself to let her go.

Now new question: I've been trying to be as gentle and polite as possible, but she is treating me like garbage. Is it worth it to try to see her and say goodbye in person, or should I do it her way and text her?

Because, here's a funny thing: we argue via Skype and Whats App. Not in person, not by phone. She always hides behind a device. And even in the good times, she rarely answered when I call her. I swear I could type 5 random numbers and they would answer. But her? No, no.
 
The restraining order would be too much, but you know what's crazy? My mom came up with the same idea.
And you are also the 2nd person that tells me that she might be hiding her own cheating.



I hope I can get over her soon. I also hope you can recover from it too 👍



She is. Fortunately, I'm preparing myself to let her go.

Now new question: I've been trying to be as gentle and polite as possible, but she is treating me like garbage. Is it worth it to try to see her and say goodbye in person, or should I do it her way and text her?

Because, here's a funny thing: we argue via Skype and Whats App. Not in person, not by phone. She always hides behind a device. And even in the good times, she rarely answered when I call her. I swear I could type 5 random numbers and they would answer. But her? No, no.
If you want a bit of safety, do it from behind a device. It also is a nice bit of giving her a taste of her own medicine. If you want to do it in person, bring someone with you as back-up in case she absolutely goes beserk and tries to hurt you.
 
If you want a bit of safety, do it from behind a device. It also is a nice bit of giving her a taste of her own medicine. If you want to do it in person, bring someone with you as back-up in case she absolutely goes beserk and tries to hurt you.

LOL.

She wants me to give her a UPS tracking guide so she can give me back my ID.

I'm 10 minutes away from her house by car and 15 on public transport.

...:rolleyes:

Yeah, she is insane. And she has already done way too much damage to me.
 
How did she get your ID?

We went to the beach last month. When we picked up our luggage after we arrived to Mexico City, she kept the tickets alongside our ID's.

The history of this trip is also an incredible one. You wouldn't believe all the horrible things she said and did and that I had to endure.
 
We went to the beach last month. When we picked up our luggage after we arrived to Mexico City, she kept the tickets alongside our ID's.

The history of this trip is also an incredible one. You wouldn't believe all the horrible things she said and did and that I had to endure.
You've already painted a vivid enough picture of the situation that I can make an educated guess. Just get your ID and belongings back as soon as you can and get away.
 
You've already painted a vivid enough picture of the situation that I can make an educated guess. Just get your ID and belongings back as soon as you can and get away.

It's easier and cheaper for me to get a new one, really. She can keep that.

In an ideal situation, I'd like her to return the engagement ring, but since tradition dictates it's some kind of financial insurance for her "damaged reputation", I think it's not going to happen.

Edit: I'm Free. I'm no longer her b**** :D
 
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Ugh... How hard can it be to just talk to a girl?

Sometimes I wonder if I'm really this socially awkward when I'm struggling to create something as little as a conversation with a girl.

She works at the local swimming pool, and I swim about 3-5 times a week. Every time I assure myself this time I'm going to grab the courage and just talk to her, and show some sign of interest from my side. Then she looks me in the eye, and I just choke and cut the conversation short myself.

I'm doing triathlons, yet here I stand unable to utter a word when facing a woman. Good gracious me...

So somewhere I found a pair of balls and talked to her. She's Hungarian, and she's been living in Belgium for 5 years.

Is it creepy to visit her at her work just to ask her out, or is that too soon? I mean, I know her name, but I don't want to be that creepy guy and search all social media to find a possible profile.

I felt so weird just to walk up to her and show interest in her. Apart from at the swimming pool, which is where she works, I've never seen her around.

What do you guys reckon?
 
So somewhere I found a pair of balls and talked to her. She's Hungarian, and she's been living in Belgium for 5 years.

Is it creepy to visit her at her work just to ask her out, or is that too soon? I mean, I know her name, but I don't want to be that creepy guy and search all social media to find a possible profile.

I felt so weird just to walk up to her and show interest in her. Apart from at the swimming pool, which is where she works, I've never seen her around.

What do you guys reckon?
If you still swim there 3-5 times a week, just ask her while you're there for a normal swimming session.
 
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