LiquidSo, after 20 years the files have been published and the allegations of a cover up and the failure of the South Yorkshire police and ambulance services have been proven true according to initial reports.
Thoughts?
Got any links to this information for us international members?So, after 20 years the files have been published and the allegations of a cover up and the failure of the South Yorkshire police and ambulance services have been proven true according to initial reports.
Thoughts?
Got any links to this information for us international members?
KeefGot any links to this information for us international members?
I'd like to hear what Famine's thoughts on this are
KatieganOf course it was the emergency service's fault. Were they really so blind to see that all these people wouldn't fit in the stadium? And it's taken them 20 years to finally admit it? Disgusting. As for The Sun? For all the stuff they've done, that paper shouldn't even be allowed to be printed anymore.
I wonder if today's events will lead to prosecutions.
TeslaI find it interesting that it is only rarely mentioned that when it really comes down to it, the Liverpool fans that were turning up without tickets and trying to force their way through the gates are also to blame. Had the police not opened the large gates, we would be dealing with how there should be justice for those who were crushed outside of the stadium, and how the SYP should have opened the gate.
Could it have been avoided? Yes, but it was only a matter of time before it would've happened considering the attitudes at the time of the authorities and the fans themselves.
I still offer my condolences to the victims families, as most of those who died that day were likely not part of the initial surge into the stadium if they were near the front and completely innocent.
According to John, the officers refused to let him read his own statement, saying, "I've written what you told me. All you need to do is sign this now."
Nick Braley went to the semi-final as a neutral, excited to have been given a ticket by a friend.
He says the officer taking his statement was not impressed.
"I'd been wearing a Free Mandela T-shirt," he says.
This prompted aggressive questions. "Was I a student agitator? Was I a member of the Socialist Workers Party? I'm just a fan at a game of football. He then turned on me and said I was a criminal with a grudge against the police."
At one point, he says, the police suggested he had not even been at the game. When he produced his ticket, he was told he could have found it.
A subsequent inquiry carried out by West Midlands Police into the handling of Hillsborough by their counterparts in South Yorkshire has also become the focus for possible criminal conduct after the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) found ''differences'' in witness statements taken from fans.
[Nick Braley] said that when he told West Midlands officers that he thought South Yorkshire police failings had caused the disaster, he was told he could face prosecution.
One thing I'm still somewhat unclear on is where the pressure at the back came from to crush the people at the front.So it has become very apparent that the police were at fault for the crush on that day
Imagine if people did that in cars in a car park. Although obviously, they wouldn't get killed as the cars structure would protect them.Unfortunately that's how crushes happen - people see a movement in front and press forward without necessarily knowing what's going on ahead. In this case there was a funnel effect which made it much worse.
Imagine if people did that in cars in a car park. Although obviously, they wouldn't get killed as the cars structure would protect them.