The reign of the Beetle Gr.3

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Not just for the game though. I take into account the outside world and if they have the audacity to choose a Beetle as their car of choice then what other questionable life choices are they making?

Just because there are bad people in the public view doesn't mean that these disturbed individuals driving Beetles in GTS wouldn't be worse given the opportunity to be in a position of power. I'm looking at the big picture here.

And, ahem...
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With that logic, you must hate every single Porsche ever made too right?

That same viewpoint should also be applied to every single Italian car manufacturer too, because they supported the Axis powers in WWII
 
Not just for the game though. I take into account the outside world and if they have the audacity to choose a Beetle as their car of choice then what other questionable life choices are they making?

Just because there are bad people in the public view doesn't mean that these disturbed individuals driving Beetles in GTS wouldn't be worse given the opportunity to be in a position of power. I'm looking at the big picture here.

And, ahem...
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Sorry but!... if an individuals choice of a car in real life or in this game makes you judge them so distastefully then you have a very peculiar perception of life and you need to go out more! Climb out of that bubble :lol:
 
Funnily enough it was only after seeing this thread yesterday I thought I'd give it a go today in Alsace. I quite liked it, I guess that makes me a bad person! Though I'm not a great driver, but at least I can keep it on the black stuff most of the time, unlike quite a few other fellow Beetles that I passed after they completely over-cooked it.
 
With that logic, you must hate every single Porsche ever made too right?

That same viewpoint should also be applied to every single Italian car manufacturer too, because they supported the Axis powers in WWII
Oh I'm sorry, do you have photos of Adolf Hitler admiring a Ferrari?
 
I think that gear ratios should be exempt from the ‘no tuning allowed’ events.

You should be able to adjust ratios in a fixed setup, mixed car event.

I tend to agree with you there, but this would also introduce another variable to the data PD is surely trying to collect, so I'm hoping they make the best of the data they're getting currently.

For current racing, I'm not sure it would be absolutely necessary, if the ratios were set appropriately for all cars, but some cars just have weird settings. Usually you have fixed settings in real life for GT3/GT4, and I wouldn't complain, if they had modelled a REAL car with accurate ratios, but does that Cayman really have this gearing? Drove it at Alsace today, and didn't even need 5th...? Also, some cars' 6th gear is too short so it tops out in slipstream. And that's with cars created by PD!

This also creates a problem for the BoP, because PD is basing the BoP at the moment e.g. on this Cayman with weird gear ratios. If they were to change this to shorter gears, the car will be faster, so they would have to rebalance it.

I actually would like to see them updating the BoP's every 2 weeks or so. They should have enough data to draw the necessary conclusions from that and it would reduce the feeling of having to use a certain car for a specific race to have a chance. It should need only a very small update to update the BoP, so it could be done on a regular basis. But watch for that outcry when they change it during a Nations/Manufacturers Cup. Everyone with a previously overpowered car will raise hell! :lol:

PS: They should also have a look at that Gr.4 Megane. At Bathurst one of these goes through T1 a second behind you and cleanly goes by before braking for T2. They're a good 10km/h faster down the straight than most other Gr.4 cars.
 
I think it's about time to leave these here...





The only major difference is the drivetrain... the Rally Cross Beetles are AWD, but the performance stats including horse power are very comparable with the GR.3 version here in GT Sport. Just food for thought when you say these aren't real...

Cheers
 
I don't get 2 things about the Beetle.

1st, why does it have 7 gears, while every other Gr3 car has 6, like official GT3 restriction.

2nd, wtf is that absurd interior?? It looks like it was cut straight from some 90's arcade.

The Renault RS01 has 7 gears, but you wouldn't know because PD nerfed it to the back of the pack to favour the Beetle + the two GT3 cars that just so happened to have been driver in real life by Kaz Yamauchi....

Right? This thing is cool but OF(over-fast), Corvette and Mustang need some love

Another two good cars nerfed to the back by PD's BoP...
 
Sorry but!... if an individuals choice of a car in real life or in this game makes you judge them so distastefully then you have a very peculiar perception of life and you need to go out more! Climb out of that bubble :lol:
Did I strike a nerve? Are you a Beetle driver? A persons car choice says a lot about them. If you WILLINGLY choose an awful car, Beetle, Smart Fortwo, NISSAN JUKE, you deserve all criticism.

But you avoid my main point. There's a select amount of cars in GTS and if there are people who choose the Beetle just because it's faster, then YES, you are the worst of humans. Have some pride for Christ sakes.

The Renault RS01 has 7 gears, but you wouldn't know because PD nerfed it to the back of the pack to favour the Beetle + the two GT3 cars that just so happened to have been driver in real life by Kaz Yamauchi....
I have to disagree. The RS01 is an amazing car.

Everyone complaining about the Beetle, sorry but you're probably just not as good as you think you are. They really aren't that overpowered, practice makes perfect guys and the Beetles aren't unbeatable.

Git good.
 
I'll just add in my 2 cents, the Beetle, while beatable is clearly one of the better cars in the class. I raced 2 of them at Alsace in a Mustang & while I had to be very smooth & precise with inputs to keep up, those clowns were all over the road & yet I couldn't escape them. I could hear them just mashing the gas out of every corner & they never had any problems yet with the Mustang even with TC on you still can't be careless. It's not entirely fair.
 
Did I strike a nerve? Are you a Beetle driver? A persons car choice says a lot about them. If you WILLINGLY choose an awful car, Beetle, Smart Fortwo, NISSAN JUKE, you deserve all criticism.

But you avoid my main point. There's a select amount of cars in GTS and if there are people who choose the Beetle just because it's faster, then YES, you are the worst of humans. Have some pride for Christ sakes.

In reality I don't drive any car! but in this game I drive any and all cars.. very fast! :lol: So I have no stricken nerves here ;)
 
In reality I don't drive any car! but in this game I drive any and all cars.. very fast! :lol: So I have no stricken nerves here ;)
If you can drive any of the other cars better then there's no reason to choose the Beetle. Whatever you've got to tell yourself to justify it though...

At the end of the days guy, it's still a Beetle and that should be enough to understand what's wrong.
 
I noticed early on the beetles dominance, but they have seemed to fallen back as of late. Never competitively raced the beetle, so could give proper feedback on it. Having raced the Corvette, Mustang, and Porsche, I have a better time with the Corvette.
 
I have to disagree. The RS01 is an amazing car.

Everyone complaining about the Beetle, sorry but you're probably just not as good as you think you are. They really aren't that overpowered, practice makes perfect guys and the Beetles aren't unbeatable.

Git good.

I'm yet to unleash that little beast on everyone, mainly because I usually get rammed off by Beetles despite being 0.2-0.5 quicker around some tracks than most of them.
 
The Beetle is great, but not exactly god-like especially that it’s heavily nerfed by the BoP.

The M6 GT3 can squash that bug, BoP or not.
 
If you can drive any of the other cars better then there's no reason to choose the Beetle. Whatever you've got to tell yourself to justify it though...

At the end of the days guy, it's still a Beetle and that should be enough to understand what's wrong.
You must not know who he is...
 
I think it's about time to leave these here...





The only major difference is the drivetrain... the Rally Cross Beetles are AWD, but the performance stats including horse power are very comparable with the GR.3 version here in GT Sport. Just food for thought when you say these aren't real...

Cheers

Sorry but you can not compare a rally car looking like a real beetle to a conceptcar made to a Gr.3 Car in a hilarious way. Even the details make me angry about that car. Just look at the wheels. There are clearly some cheap carbon look applications added. What serious Race Car builder would do such stupid eco futuristic stupid things. Is it to heat up your Brakes by not letting any air flow? Overall the car looks like out of a designers futuristic fantasy and has nothing to do with my reality at least. The only thing they forgot is to make the Beetle electric and give it 1000NM from the start.
They should keep VGTs in their own little Rainbow world.
 
Bathurst had a variety of cars in the top 10 to be honest last night (I said I'd never do Bathurst again but I gave it a second chance). I chose the Porsche (First time ever) because it was a lot easier to drive than the Ferrari and I could not work out how some people were going so quick. I could get 2:02's but not consistently. Then I saw someone in the race get low 2:02's constantly.... watched the replay then saw what was happening! That damn driver aid (Counter Steer) flashing red more times than the brake indicator :P! So I either had a choice of the driving aid or a stable car last night and went for the stable one (I honestly think the counter steer driving aid is cheating if it makes it so spinning is reduced and people that much quicker!)
 
With that logic, you must hate every single Porsche ever made too right?

That same viewpoint should also be applied to every single Italian car manufacturer too, because they supported the Axis powers in WWII

And GM, they provided the engines for Opel Blitz trucks that were the backbone of the Wehrmacht. If you decide to avoid any manufacturer ever involved with dodgy politics then you're left in a Saab.
 
And GM, they provided the engines for Opel Blitz trucks that were the backbone of the Wehrmacht. If you decide to avoid any manufacturer ever involved with dodgy politics then you're left in a Saab.
Saab is (was) heavily involved with the weapons industry in Sweden. So they are not exactly 'clean'. Just saying...
 
Not noticing the dominance really. Noticed people use it a lot but I've never felt they've had an advantage. (BoP on)

the car is on curvy tracks really fast for most drivers because its very easy car to drive, maybe thats the reason...

with that car u can turn off tc and it feels like the car hast almost no wheelspin
 
Saab is (was) heavily involved with the weapons industry in Sweden. So they are not exactly 'clean'. Just saying...

Neutrality is hardly dodgy politics. And besides, the Beetle that's getting the particular hate in this thread shares zero DNA with the original Tata/Porsche prototypes.
 
Neutrality is hardly dodgy politics. And besides, the Beetle that's getting the particular hate in this thread shares zero DNA with the original Tata/Porsche prototypes.
The Swedish weapon industry has never been neutral. Not even close. Just saying...
 
Well, I thought the problem with the Beetle is that is unbalanced in terms of handling, compared with other Group 3 cars or people hate it because consider it a swastica on wheels?
:confused::confused::confused::confused: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Well, I thought the problem with the Beetle is that is unbalanced in terms of handling, compared with other Group 3 cars or people hate it because consider it a swastica on wheels?
:confused::confused::confused::confused: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

If this is the case then people should also hate Porsche and Mercedes.
(for the same reason).
 
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