V-Rally 4 (PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One) - Release date September 2018

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  1. zargdin

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    Not sure whether to get V Rally 4 or not. I loved the old previous iteration, but if this version is like WRC7 as some say, I'll just play WRC7.
    For some reason or another, I can't find any reviews of the game.
     
  2. cjr3559

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    Eurogamer reviewed it, but it’s just another generic not-tell-you-very-many-specific-details kind of review from someone that’s only played it for a couple hours. It’s information I basically already know having watched this game in development online for a while. At least that’s my impression.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eu...s-throwback-thats-too-clumsy-for-its-own-good
     
  3. davidt33

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    Sooo....Nobody on PS4 console or Xbox played this game with a Logitech G29 wheel or similar?
    Wondering now if I wasted my time buying this as I want to play with my wheel specifically bought for racing sims and have no intention of using a controller for racing. Before I bought the game I was under the impression it was compatible with G29 wheels as other racing sims/games. Can any similar user that has used please let me know if you were able to and what I need to do.

    I've already copied and pasted my issue on the V-Rally Facebook page but have yet to receive a response. Hope I haven't wasted my money but I was really excited to get and use this game.
     
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  4. RisingStar

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    I'll probably wait for a huge price drop before buying this.
     
  5. Ozzy512

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    Im really on the fence about this title but one thing that could sway it for me is the controller remapping options.
    I use the directional pad buttons instead of the thumbstick to steer the car in Dirt Rally to great effect and enjoyment and it feels so much better than using the thumbstick.
    So to someone who has the game, could you please check to see if it is possible to remap the controller to use the d-pad to steer?
    Many thanks in advance.
     
  6. SpawnCH

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    Yes, it is possible to remap the steering to the d-pad (tested on PS4)

    @davidt33
    I tested the setup with Logitech G29 and PS4 yesterday and the experience was awful. The steering has lag and feels like the force feedback is not working at all. I don't know how to describe this properly. But you can turn the wheel with no force, then the car reacts a bit later and when it reacts you feel a bit of resistance in the wheel. This has to be fixed with a patch! Otherwise it's useless. No fun at all.
    The standard setting is 540 degrees and the wheel locks at that point.
    And yes, same as in WRC 6 to use the wheel you have to boot the game with the controller and go into options to select the wheel as input. Annoying. But if the feeling of the wheel doesn't change I won't use it anyways.
     
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  7. Ozzy512

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    Great, thanks alot SpawnCH.
     
  8. davidt33

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    At last someone answered. Thank you so much Spawn. I really appreciate this so much. I been waiting and waiting and waiting. Not even a reply from their Facebook forum.

    At least I know what to do now. About the lag you mentioned, don't you think it may be some user configuration/s that may need to be adjusted by the user? You know like how in Project Cars 2 there are some configuration adjustment options for wheel like Deadzone etc that address lag or looseness and whatever? I know myself and others had to do that to get the responses right since the Default settings produced lag and whatever.

    When you say the standard setting is 540 degress (wheel rotation I assume) is there a wheel calibration thingy (and perhaps pedals too) one has to do or the option to do so or what?
     
  9. SpawnCH

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    Yes I meant wheel rotation and I saw the option to adjust the degrees but I didn't bother changing it so I don't know the available minimum and maximum values. I can also confirm that you can adjust the Deadzone among other things in the settings menu. I didn't spot an auto-calibration or anything similar but maybe I wasn't looking well enough. I'm not home right now so I can't check the settings.
     
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  10. PocketZeven

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    Looking at various reviews, I guess V-rally 4 isnt what I hoped for. Hopefully Dakar can provide a better experience.
     
  11. FT-1

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    After playing V-Rally 4 for a few days, some pet peeves have emerged. Nothing game breaking, but some elements of design I wish were given a rethink:

    • The game is very vague in terms of letting you know what car you should be using for the event. So basically, the difficulty of events is rated in stars; Level 1 for entry level events, Level 4 (championship) for more difficult. Technically you can enter in any car fit for the discipline, but the star acts as a discreet recommendation for what car you should use if you don't want to get thrashed. I would prefer having a recommended vehicle rating instead of stars.
    • In Multiple-stage events, positioning is based on points rather than total time. This is a bit annoying as if you make a significant gain after not doing well on a previous stage, you are not rewarded for it as much as you should have.
    • Did Kylotonn really think it would be a good idea to have one highly-repetitive song in the career mode menu?
    With that said, I'm still finding the game highly enjoyable; if you view it as a throwback to old school rally games from ~15 years ago, you will not be disappointed. I think the stage design is the best in the business right now. :)
     
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  12. davidt33

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    Thanks all for your experiences and other feedback. Very useful and insightful.
     
  13. die996

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    A few problems with V-Rally 4: track selection is rather, vehicle selection is almost nonsensical. I don't mind the lack of realism in the driving physics, V-Rally 2 was an arcade game but it was brilliant.

    The vehicle selection is laughable. Here you have all 9 main rallying groups ordered by the car's performance points... and my own version of how it should be:
    Gr. 1 · V-Rally 4 = Cooper S, A110 1600S, Escort RS1600 and Fulvia
    · ME = Giulia, Fulvia, A110 1600S and Escort RS1600 (the Mini wasn't a true match to the others and the Fulvia isn't better than the A110 1600S)

    Gr. 2 · V-Rally 4 = Golf GTi Mk1, Clio 16S Mk1 and M3 E30
    · ME = Astra GTE, Clio 16S and Golf GTi Mk1 (the M3 E30 just doesn't belong so I added another FWD kitcar of 89-90)

    Gr. 3 · V-Rally 4 = 131 Abarth, Escort RS1800, Stratos HF, 911 SC RS and DS3 R3T
    · ME = Escort RS2000, 911 SC RS, 131 Abarth and Stratos HF (WTF is the DS3 R3T doing there!?)

    Gr. 4 · V-Rally 4 = Xsara Kitcar, Megane Kitcar and Grande Punto S2000
    · ME = Xsara Kitcar, Megane Kitcar and 306 Kitcar (once again one car doesn't belong so I made it a late-kitcar showdown)

    Gr. 5 · V-Rally 4 = Manta 400, 037 and R5 Maxi Turbo
    · ME = Manta 400, R5 Maxi Turbo and 037 (nice cars but no way the 037 is slower than the R5 Maxi)

    Gr. 6 · V-Rally 4 = 911 GT3 RS and 911 RGT
    · ME = Exige RGT, 124 RGT and 911 RGT (an all-RGT showdown seems cooler to me)

    Gr. 7 · V-Rally 4 = DS3 R5 and Fabia R5
    · ME = Grande Punto S2000, DS3 R5 and Fabia R5 (S2000 cars are older but still not too far off the R5 cars)

    Gr. 8 · V-Rally 4 = Delta HF, Lancer WRC05 and Delta S4
    · ME = Delta HF, Celica GT4 ST205 and Lancer Evo3 (WTF were they smoking!? Mid Gr.A years would look better)

    Gr. 9 · V-Rally 4 = Polo WRC, DS3 WRC and Mini WRC
    · ME = Mini WRC, DS3 WRC and Polo WRC (whoever thinks the Mini was the best is a fool!)

    Gr. 10 · ME = 4x4 Group B cars (205T16 Evo2, Delta S4 and RS200, for example)
     
  14. davidt33

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    Just finished doing a little practice runs to get a feel of the game. Was able to finally choose and configure my steering wheel to use with the help of Spawn. Can't thank you enough again brother. Set one or two settings for transmission and clutch to drive manual. Most of the other options are pretty straightforward and easy to understand, not no set of complicated tuning settings from what I saw, at least for now. Glad for that. Was able to choose driving for cockpit view also which is my preference. As I was now starting off and getting accustomed I took it slow. With time I'll increase speed and whatever.

    About the graphics, to me they are absolutely stunning both overall video quality and surrounding scenery. I give it a 10/10.
    The frame rate. I saw some complaining about 30 FPS. Don't know what they were complaining about but whatever it was or is it was smooth as silk for me on my Sony 40" LED TV. Again 10/10.
    The handling of the cars I tried was pretty decent too. So all in all my overall experience is good.
    I can see myself really enjoying this experience, looking forward to firing up the game and having fun. I think they really did a good job with this game and glad I got it.
     
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    @davidt33 may I politely ask why you ignored my advice the other day despite the fact that you quoted me? I basically said to do the same thing that @SpawnCH later said. Was I not clear or something?

    Not trying to get on your case at all, just wondering if maybe I expressed myself the wrong way.
     
  16. Brend

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    Impressions sound positive and it also gives the vibe of exactly what I think the Switch needs. Kylotonn created one of the best rally games this generation with WRC 7, if they e used that as a base to create a good, more arcadey experience then I'm in day 1.

    I just hope they don't take too long to confirm a date for the Switch release.
     
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    Now went back to check Pfei and yes you did give a similar advice:
    Don't know why it didn't sink in then though it should have. I think perhaps when Spawn reiterated what to do from his actual experience with his G29 having played the game it further sinked in and cleared things up in my mind.

    About turning on both wheel and controller to start with I did so but sometime later on during the game I got a message "Controller Disconnected" and couldn't use my wheel anymore (I think it's when the controller automatically turned off after a specific time).
    Next time I'll keep in mind once controller and wheel are activated I'll press on the wheel's "X" button to continue as you advise.
    I do have the option for controller set for "Wheel" so thought it would have remained as my main controller, always active.
    Do you think I always have to have the controller turned on to start up the game though? I still think that's kind of wierd as I never have to do so with other similar games like Pcars 2 and GTsport once the wheel is connected and set as chosen controller.
     
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    Yeah, that's the weird thing with Kylotonn games. You have to turn off the energy saving on the DS4 because if it turns off during play then your wheel stops working. When I play WRC 7 I leave the DS4 plugged in with the USB. What else can we do? :confused:
     
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    Sure is weird in true. Especially now years later. Hope they change that.
     
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    Quick blast this morning, mostly rally one rally cross race. Truly excellent stages and tracks, this is going to be good fun.
     
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    Digital version is crazy overpriced on XB1. $71.99 for standard game and $30 for a season pass consisting of 4 cars. Was looking forward to trying it out, but not until those numbers come down.
     
  22. davidt33

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    Sure it's not the Ultimate version you're referring to for $71.99?
    That's the version I bought for $71.99 and it included the Season Pass. That was via Pre-order about 1 or 2 days before release though.
     
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    Ultimate is $97.49

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  24. davidt33

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    Just now double-checked. Apparently the Ultimate version is now $79.99 on the Playstation Store. (US).
    It was $71.99 Pre-order.

    The Standard version is $59.99 from what I saw on the site.
     
  25. SPhilli911

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    Despite my praise for WRC7, I went into V-Rally 4 with lowered expectations and it seems some of you aren't too pleased with the game. BUT, I have to say I am way happier with this game than I thought I would be. The graphics are decent enough, but just like WRC7, the handling physics, while a bit arcady, are good and overall just plain fun. I'm having an absolute blast on the rally stages (I haven't tried any other discipline), the stage design is great.

    The game sorta reminds me of Rallisport Challenge 2 on the original Xbox, with it's variety of race types and good selection of stages. It's not a rally sim, but it's fun and that's what counts. I would even call V-Rally 4 a better game than Dirt 4.
     
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    So I got the Mitsubishi MiEV Evolution for hillclimb events and wow... It certainly has unique power delivery. The sound mixed with the rapid acceleration makes it feel like you are going to enter another dimension! :eek:
     
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    Not to belabour what I said before but....Here's my Playstation Store receipt for the Ultimate version Pre-order for US$ 71.99

    Edit: Removed receipt for security purposes.
     
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    False.

    Squeezed an hour in tonight until I can get more time on Monday to give this a good workout.

    H-shifter *is* implemented with FULL customization, meaning you can change the H pattern to whatever you want. T300/TH8A user. In general, the camera, HUD, and wheel setting options are good. Not DiRT level good, but good for a game generally perceived as Arcade. It can be as basic or as customizable as you want.

    If you like WRC7 or Rally titles, you will find this enjoyable. Plus, I can’t turn down the opportunity to try out new tracks and locations. I see myself spending a decent amount of time with this.

    Also, ignore the reviews that repeatedly compare this game to the old V-Rally games. I mean, those games were what they were and are ancient history in the gaming world. Maybe KT should have called this something else, because all the “V-Rally 4” title does is give reviewers a hook to snag onto. Plus, unless you’re a hardcore throwback gamer or picked up a used copy, does anyone under the age of 30 remember those games anyway? I digress..
     
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  29. torque99

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    I'm having a love hate relationship with this game. Some stages and cars look fantastic others do not. But overall on DS4 controller so far it is fun, handling I am used to now and I will keep going back to it.
     
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    I want that guy's motion rig...

    Or is it real? Difficult to tell these days ;)
     
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