What changes have you noticed since the update (08/01/08)?

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I noticed the 3rd person view is no longer like its stuck to the car on a rod. The car wobbles a little more and feels like the other GT series cameras.

BOVs are defintiely more apparent like on the AMUSE.

this is a sweet update. Waiting for some new content though. The GTTV isn't fully setup yet.
 
The thing to remember is if you want to race on stock tyres you have to go generally to the n class tyres. At the monent, as far as I remember, the lowest spec tyre online is S2 (open to corrections).

The other thing I have found to be good is that now tyre choice is more open. The c ar with the grippiest tyres may not win.

Far more scope to tuning I feel, would a high powered light car on S tyres defeat a heavier, lower powered car on R's?

I think this is going to make it more fun for the tuners amongst us.
 
DuoWing
If you watch shows like Top Gear there are times when they are flailing these cars around the track and they talk about all the grip that a car will have, they're doing slides and what not, but they're managing to keep it under control and they aren't acting like it's a huge struggle to do it.
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JamboGT
The thing to remember is if you want to race on stock tyres you have to go generally to the n class tyres. At the monent, as far as I remember, the lowest spec tyre online is S2 (open to corrections).

The other thing I have found to be good is that now tyre choice is more open. The c ar with the grippiest tyres may not win.

Far more scope to tuning I feel, would a high powered light car on S tyres defeat a heavier, lower powered car on R's?

I think this is going to make it more fun for the tuners amongst us.
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agree with you there...this makes the tuners finally get there effort payed back in being faster than a noob just beceause he/she has better tyres fitted on their car:)

spyrrari.
 
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I think what happened was too many SIXAXIS guys complained they couldn't drive the powerful RWD cars (you expect to race a sim with a controller?) so PD dumbed them down.

That's a shame really.

Isn't that's what standard physics are for? Why dumb down pro physics....why

Now driving the F40 isn't anything special
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I have to completely and totally agree with you. I feel this is 100% based on exactly what you just said. I am a controller guy and when I watch movies on youtube of guys driving with a wheel I can see the difference between my driving style with the controller. This will even the playing field. Honestly though do you feel it is fair to give a sizable advantage to someone with a $300 wheel over someone with the stock controller? I was actually hoping to buy a wheel myself and be able to drive better too but now I do not think there is a need with the new update.
 
Hey all been driving about a bit trying to put cars on the limit sort of.

What I have found, and I wonder if anyone will agree with me, is that the "limit" of the tyre grip is increased, but I have found that once you exceed that grip beyond a certain slip angle the game does bite back, its quite fun in an ooo I am oversteering into the wall on the inside kind of a way!
 
@Jantsu: can you provide some details? The M3 never sounded that good to begin with in the game, and seemingly, TurkeyBurgers doesn't agree with you, so it would be nice of you describe the new sound a bit more precise.
 
I have to agree with the outside behind view the sound wasn't as loud. BUT the wind sound doesn't seem to be as bad from the inside. Still my beloved will never sound bad. NEVER!
 
DuoWing
One thing people don't seem to consider is this. Maybe the physics were off and everything was actually harder to control then it would be in real life. Now they may have improved the physics closer to real life which may actually be a little easier to control and everyone says they are wrong. Until someone takes each car in the game and real life, sets them up as closely as possible and imitates every situation in real life and the game none of us will know for sure. Alot of things people are forgetting are such things as LSDs, traction control, ABS, etc. Alot of cars in real life come with these features and don't necessarily have a way to turn them off like the game. If you watch shows like Top Gear there are times when they are flailing these cars around the track and they talk about all the grip that a car will have, they're doing slides and what not, but they're managing to keep it under control and they aren't acting like it's a huge struggle to do it. It's not always just the tires that play a role, it's also the weight, shape, aerodynamics, balance, etc that changes the way a car handles. Alot of people say Forza had fantastic physics, but cars at times especially rear wheel drive cars at slow speeds where way to easy to lose traction in, even with better tires. Alot of people haven't played GTR, but people will say GTR is a better sim. It's primarily because they make it into a straight get on the track, here's the guy telling you to go in the pit, giving you updates, etc sim. That doesn't mean the physics are more realistic, it just means it's more geared as being a racing simulator.

Besides GT must be doing something right if the auto industry is eager to have people take a virtual test drive of their car in GT. If the car's handled nothing like real life I can't imagine the automakers being too eager to let you take a drive in their car that's not even close to the real thing. They want to show you what it's like to drive it, and what makes their car special.
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I agree.
Before this update the s2 tires were bit off. They felt like you used STREET tires and not Sports.
Now the S2 tires do feel like you have good SPORTS tires, seems they have more grip, and the N tires do seem like they are Normal Street tires.

I also Agree with you. GT5P before this update was bit TOO hard, especially with MR cars, I wach TOP gear, and other TV shows, They drove the FORD GT and say it is a really good handling car, In GT5P (before update) it was really hard to control. Now it is what they say on TV, a good handling sports car.
I also noticed the SUSPENSION work like it should. I think it's very noticeable in the FORD mustang, Mercedes-Benz, TVR speed 6, and LANCIA, I tested few more cars out, and feels more real to life :)



👍👍👍👍 +1 REP!





By the way guys, Did you notice more HEAD shake.. or COCKPIT shake? that is really neat now! Gives bit more to sence of speed and that you go over SMALL bumbps
 
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All i know is this....... i'm over 1.5 secs faster on average in arcade time trial at Suzuka East in almost all cars...... how is that possible? I know the tyre physics have been modified..... but geez:crazy:
 
has any body noticed. the tire squeel has been toned down alot? and it isent ear pearcing any more. also i drove every single car...all of them sound very different, especialy the nissan gtr r34. so kudos to sony for beefing the car sounds. and toning down the tire squeal.
 
Juice476
Just tested the vette tuned on daytona with r1 tires and I dont understand with TT off how I can just mash the gas like that coming out of the turn and it sticks perfectly. Before the update I had to use TT2 and even then the car would step out a bit now with TT off like I said I can mash the thing and it feels like its on rails. 👎

Just think this was a small update cant wait to see how they destroy this game even more come the fall :nervous:
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R1 tires are not meant to be a realistic representation. If you read through the manual, you'll see that S2 tires are grippiest stock tires that the any of the cars in GT5P use. N tires are the tires normally on most of the cars. Besides with the new update, in TT, you can't use anything above S2 tires (N1-S2).
 
osg
All i know is this....... i'm over 1.5 secs faster on average in arcade time trial at Suzuka East in almost all cars...... how is that possible? I know the tyre physics have been modified..... but geez:crazy:
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mate,more grip....:sly:

spyrrari.
 
It's hard to judge the physics without jumping into the a real life counterpart of the car in question, but IMO all they did was increase tire grip to more realistic levels. N1 is your average all season tires, while N3 is average max performance summer tire. S tires are barely DOT legal tires, and R tires are soft multi-compound slicks. Almost no production car will come with anything greater than N3 equivalent tires. So if you want to judge a production car like the M3 or F430 don't do it on anything greater than N3. This is just my opinion, but I'm also going by the tire descriptions PD used in GT4.

N1
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N2
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N3
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S1
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S2 & S3 hard and soft compounds
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R tires Soft, medium, hard, super soft etc.
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the Interceptor
@Jantsu: can you provide some details? The M3 never sounded that good to begin with in the game, and seemingly, TurkeyBurgers doesn't agree with you, so it would be nice of you describe the new sound a bit more precise.
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Okay M3 never sounded good, but now it sounds even worse. Spec ll update changed car sounds too. For example Nissan GTR R35 sounded a lot better before spec ll update.


Here is a video which I recorded before 08/01/08 update. Compare the sound of M3 for that what is it now. You hear a clear difference at low RPM. (But you can hear the difference only when you are using in car camera.)


Here is a video which is recorded before spec ll update(VIDEO IS NOT MY). Compare the sound of GTR for that what is it now on GT5P. Corvette Z06 sounded a lot better too before spec ll update. But remebmer EU and US version of GT5P was already updated for spec ll version when they was released.
And sorry my bad english.
 
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haha....R tires Soft, medium, hard, super soft etc(together with picture)....

am on the floor!!!hahahaha....

spyrrari.
 
osg
Yes i understand spyrrari......... but it's a big upgrade in grip from pre update to post update yes?
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yes mate,it is....but its (for me) the overall handling of the cars/together with the improved grip/that makes you go faster in the same car on the same track with the same tyres....:)

spyrrari.
 
spyrrari
yes mate,it is....but its (for me) the overall handling of the cars/together with the improved grip/that makes you go faster in the same car on the same track with the same tyres....:)

spyrrari.
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👍 agreed........
 
I was able to get 47 seconds now using the Ford GT Spec II on daytona where as I used to get something like 47.7.
 
Jantsu92
Here is a video which is recorded before spec ll update(VIDEO IS NOT MY). Compare the sound of GTR for that what is it now on GT5P. Corvette Z06 sounded a lot better too before spec ll update. But remebmer EU and US version of GT5P was already updated for spec ll version when they was released.
And sorry my bad english.
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I'm not so sure of that. The GTR in GT5:P sounds very similar to the one in the video. Especially when the driver is changing gears.
 
Blitz ER34 has never been so much fun to drive !!!!

I have to say overall so far I think this is the best update I have seen. So many improvements.
 
Well while i love most of the update, i ve noticed some downsides:
if your in a race with a laggy bunch of people ( usually FR and ES ), you can't quit no more, youre stuck in that race getting bumped all the time and no way out! :nervous: That should be fixed!!!
Also the ghosting is to much, careless 'specialists' just drive through you forcing you off the track when become solid again, its distracting and feels just not right however.:crazy:
It really depends on what people youre racing. i had some nice, clean fights this afternoon, but now i only get these punters smashfest :nervous: ( raced on 750pp FUJI )
 
I just want to know how we get the old physics back while keeping the new tires. Face it they messed up the physics and made them easier and dumbed them down. No way in hell with sport tires could you take a z06 turn of TT and be able to mash the throttle threw the turn.

I liked the old physics it took car control and throttle control to be fast now its just another well.......good for you kind of people who think its better.
 
f430 sounds a hell of alot better now...more throaty, dosent sound like an electic car at high rpm's, also the lower rpm's now sound nice bellowed.
 

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