Whats with the Japanese cars?

Originally posted by misnblu
Whats wrong with the Japanese cars??
I think they rock and are in high demand among true tuners here in America.
Heck, every pic you see in SuperStreet Magazine shows some kind of JDM product or someone emulating the thing.
Theres nothing wrong with the Japanese cars as they really are into racing. To be honest, the racing scene in Japan puts our American racing system to shame, especially Nascar. ewww
So, until other manufacturers catch up with the fever the Japanese have with racing, youll see more Japanese cars than not.
Misnblu
What I wouldnt do for a twin turbo Skyline. :odd: ;) :(
I dont think there is anything wrong with the Japanese and i agree that they are better racing cars. I definately agree about NASCAR :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: BORING! but i think gran turismo or grand touring translated should be more european since club racing did originate in europe. But i have absolutely no problem what so ever with the large amount of rice burners. I just wish the european dealers had used cars too :(
 
The only thing I'd change about GT2 is I would definitely put used cars in EVERY manufacturer. It would be so cool to drive older American and European cars. I keep thinking about how cool it would be to drive an old BMW M1, or Volkswagen GTI, or Aston Martin DB5, or MGB, or Chevy Chevelle, or Buick GSX, or Buick GNX, or Renault 5 Turbo, or Lancia Scorpion, or...well, I could go on forever, but all those Japanese crap cars is ridiculous. I mean, Honda Civic?! It just reeks of femininity...why not put in older Preludes or something...and why Daihatsu is even in the game perplexes me. I remember first looking at Daihatsu. I said: "Who the **** is Daihatsu?!? :odd: " I bought a Midget for the fun of it. Man, that box on wheels is the ugliest thing I've ever seen! 31hp? :lol:
 
Originally posted by Firebird
BMW M1, or Volkswagen GTI, or Aston Martin DB5, or MGB, or Chevy Chevelle, or Buick GSX, or Buick GNX, or Renault 5 Turbo, or Lancia Scorpion, or...well, I could go on forever, but all those Japanese crap cars is ridiculous. I mean, Honda Civic?! It just reeks of femininity...why not put in older Preludes or something...

Older American cars? Yea, like the old '84 Chevy Celebrity or '86 Ford Escort. The GSX and GNX's? Isn't there a GTX in there? what about all the old (heavy, bouncy & slow) musclecars? The Civic reaks feminity? There's a few thousand guys out here in cali that'd beg to differ droping 13sec timeslips in their moms old grocery-getter. And there is an abundance of older Preludes in GT2, as well as Accords.
 
Originally posted by KanaL
damn, have you ever seen so many stickers on a car?

Nascars have about triple that amount

i heard that a tiny little AMD sticker on the back wing of the ferrari cost something like 3milionUSD (not sure tho, may have been bull****) anually!

:lol: how much do you think the Tic Tac Sticker Costs

This guy desicribes nascar perfectly

Lastly, I just cant see why Nascar is so popular. If ppl would get a look at some of the racing and rallying going on, they would forget about a bunch of rolling bill boards on wheels.
 
Option2, what have you been smoking?

Abundance of Preludes? :odd: There's only two different generations. What I mean by older Preludes is 1st and 2nd gen stuff. As for the Celebrity and Escort, I'd rather have them in the game than Daihatsu and Suzuki...
I think you fail to realize that the GTX found in the game is a Plymouth. What I'm talking about are Buicks. If only you knew what the GNX and GSX were you'd want them in the game too...

Oh, and I'd like a few examples of heavy, bouncy, slow musclecars, because I'm having trouble thinking of any...

You probably don't like muscle cars because you are not a skilled enough driver, and that's why you stick with front-drive POS's. Still haven't mastered rear-wheel-drive yet? Keep practicing, and maybe you can get past 10% completion in the game...

And, yes, Civics are chick cars. How many women do you see driving them compared to men? 70/30? 80/20? I honestly don't care if some idiots in California tune Honda Civics and get them to run 13 seconds. Besides, a Camaro SS running bone stock can do the 1/4 mile in the high 12s, why waste money on some puny piece of Japanese garbage...
 
Originally posted by Firebird
And, yes, Civics are chick cars. How many women do you see driving them compared to men? 70/30? 80/20? I honestly don't care if some idiots in California tune Honda Civics and get them to run 13 seconds. Besides, a Camaro SS running bone stock can do the 1/4 mile in the high 12s, why waste money on some puny piece of Japanese garbage... [/B]

Why is it everyone says this car and that car is a chicks car?
What does it matter?
On the Camaro SS issue, look at the pricing of the two and tell me which one SHOULD have much more power. DUHHHHH.
Some of these ignorant remarks shows no open mindedness to modding a car, whether it be in real life or the game.
On the issue of Preludes, there were three generations of Preludes according to Sport Compact Cars and Super Street magazine.
To be so blazingly biased on rwd cars and calling a fwd car a pos just shows lack of knowledge on what a fwd car do.
Do the research and you may be utterly amazed at what the fwd format can do.
Enjoy the game.
Misnblu
 
Originally posted by Firebird
Option2, what have you been smoking?

Abundance of Preludes? :odd: There's only two different generations. What I mean by older Preludes is 1st and 2nd gen stuff. As for the Celebrity and Escort, I'd rather have them in the game than Daihatsu and Suzuki...
I think you fail to realize that the GTX found in the game is a Plymouth. What I'm talking about are Buicks. If only you knew what the GNX and GSX were you'd want them in the game too...

Oh, and I'd like a few examples of heavy, bouncy, slow musclecars, because I'm having trouble thinking of any...

You probably don't like muscle cars because you are not a skilled enough driver, and that's why you stick with front-drive POS's. Still haven't mastered rear-wheel-drive yet? Keep practicing, and maybe you can get past 10% completion in the game...

And, yes, Civics are chick cars. How many women do you see driving them compared to men? 70/30? 80/20? I honestly don't care if some idiots in California tune Honda Civics and get them to run 13 seconds. Besides, a Camaro SS running bone stock can do the 1/4 mile in the high 12s, why waste money on some puny piece of Japanese garbage...

Hey man back off. Dont be such a jerk. Theres nothing wrong with japanese imports and then again theres nothing wrong with the good old american muscle either(well actually there is). you dont have to get so pissed off at someone for expressing their opinion. I mean come on everyone has one
 
But as for my opinion id have to agree with option 2. The muscles might not be so ****ty if they had more than 3 gears. And id also have to agree that muscles are (heavy bouncy and slow). Come on we all know theyre heavy no question. And as for slow, they accelerate like a rock and have no top speed due to the lack of higher gearing mentioned earlier. So maybe their not "bouncy", 2 out of 3 is still good. Sorry firebird but it seems your out numbered on this subject. maybe you should find a forum for 50 year olds who drive buicks :) no offence intended
 
Everyone in this forum is biased to some degree.
Including myself. Everyone thinks that opinions that do'nt
agree with theres is uniformed or stupid.

I love muscle cars, and I hate high reving 4cylinder POSs.
Muscle car short commings weight, and handleing are minor issues. Any car can be lighted, and have the suspention stiffend,
but none more easily, or cost effectivly than muscle cars.

I'm not 50y/o, and I do'nt drive a buik, but I have in the past, and even in there stock form they will destroy ANY 4 cylinder, rice burning POS out there with less than 30 grand invested. S**t!, 30 grand is about double what these POS cars cost. A CIVIC IS AN ECONOMY CAR, and no matter how NOS you put in it it still be.
 
Take my dads 1967 Oldsmobile 98 out on the freeway, and it will do every bit of the 160mph on the speedo, and then some, with the windows up, and the AC on full blast. You can't even tell if the engin is running or not it's so quiet. Plus I'm loaded down with 3 golf bags, and a full size spare in the trunk, and 3 overwieght, sleeping golfers in the back seat.

See kiddies it's O.K. to wiegh 2 tons when you have 454 cubic inches under the hood. There's no such thing as a slow muscle car, just slow drivers.

Not only are these cars as fast as you dare to drive them, they are also very comfordable. :cool: :cool: 😈 😈
 
Damnit why do you think rice burners are POSs? with a couple grand invested they can become race cars and smoke the Sh** out of your big Fu**ing crates on wheels. I supose you like NASCAR too you Fu**ing patriot! God damn when are people going to realize that the import's technology with prevail over american raw power? Power is nothing without control. And how the Fu** can a 1967 oldsmobile with a 454 in it be quiet? You must be deaf from listening to that low pitched loud piece of Sh**. I just love arguing so keep going old man :)
 
if the game was american it would probably be mostly American cars, the same with French , British, or any other countrys games.
not sure if france make a lot of games though... :) ( i know a few)
 
Sure, the Tuned NA/Turbo series is a little biased, but the European street-tuning scene is miniscule compared to the US and Japan. Hey, the Japanese also made the game...expect a little patriotism.

They probably also made or own the company that made your wristwatch, television, VCR, car stereo, equalizer, microwave oven, DVD player, CD player, many of the parts in your computer, telephone, and did I forget....your PlayStation?

If anything, the game turned a lot of Americans' interest into cars that aren't ever sold in the States. Games such as Gran Turismo are possibly breaking the barriers that have previously held up cars like the WRX, Skyline, Evolutions, Type-R's from entering these borders. You can't question the existence of something that you have no knowledge of, thus...make the public aware the cars, and they will demand it! Shrewd thinking, right?
 
Originally posted by W_conneely
if the game was american it would probably be mostly American cars, the same with French , British, or any other countrys games.
not sure if france make a lot of games though... :) ( i know a few)

...and haven't the US games been thorough and realistic (NFS comes immediately to mind...)?
 
Originally posted by pupik
Sure, the Tuned NA/Turbo series is a little biased, but the European street-tuning scene is miniscule compared to the US and Japan. Hey, the Japanese also made the game...expect a little patriotism.

They probably also made or own the company that made your wristwatch, television, VCR, car stereo, equalizer, microwave oven, DVD player, CD player, many of the parts in your computer, telephone, and did I forget....your PlayStation?

If anything, the game turned a lot of Americans' interest into cars that aren't ever sold in the States. Games such as Gran Turismo are possibly breaking the barriers that have previously held up cars like the WRX, Skyline, Evolutions, Type-R's from entering these borders. You can't question the existence of something that you have no knowledge of, thus...make the public aware the cars, and they will demand it! Shrewd thinking, right?
Well said and should end the discussion. :D
Misnblu
 
I think some poeple are just going to have to get used to imports being around. I mean theyre cheaper than americans they dont need as much gas and theyre most likelly going to become the dominant cars in america and many other countries for that mater.
 
Not only that, its a world economy and most countries are going from country to the next to look for suitable places to make their cars and trucks.
Example, Mercedes in Alabama. Nissan in Mississippi. Honda in Ohio and so on.
So what you may construe as an import really isnt. ;)
Think about it.
Misnblu
 
Originally posted by ImportRacer
True but they still have that import company name and just because they make hondas in america doesnt mean they're american. :)
Seen a Native American lately? Most of our last names (and given names) derive from non-American origins. Thus, the fact that my ancestors came to this country 5 generations ago doesn't make me any less of an American.

By that logic: A Honda where over 75% of its parts are manufactured in the US, assembled by Americans, managed mostly by Americans, and sold in America definately makes it as much an American car than a Japanese car (if not more). You could argue that there are Japanese engineers building the whole shebang, but they are making a tremendous sacrifice to live in a land that is more alien than what they are used to residing in, and offering a variety of cars rather than a less choices.

The other Japanese automakers laughed when Honda announced it would bulid a plant in Ohio back in 1982; nowadays, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, even BMW and Mercedes have a plant in the US. The truth is, Japanese automakers have the experience in buliding lighter, more fuel efficient, and better engineered cars than the US can bulid. Sure, we have our sports cars, some luxury sedans are better values as well; but in the small car game, the US is still 10 years behind in my opinion. Too many dinosaurs...and the asteroids have been striking for a while!

To sum it up, It really doesn't matter one bit to me whether the car is American, European, Japanese, or whatever. To the educated consumer (and not the brainwashed one), quality, performance, and value will still be the 3 most important factors of choosing the right car.
 
Originally posted by pupik
Seen a Native American lately? Most of our last names (and given names) derive from non-American origins. Thus, the fact that my ancestors came to this country 5 generations ago doesn't make me any less of an American.

By that logic: A Honda where over 75% of its parts are manufactured in the US, assembled by Americans, managed mostly by Americans, and sold in America definately makes it as much an American car than a Japanese car (if not more). You could argue that there are Japanese engineers building the whole shebang, but they are making a tremendous sacrifice to live in a land that is more alien than what they are used to residing in, and offering a variety of cars rather than a less choices.

The other Japanese automakers laughed when Honda announced it would bulid a plant in Ohio back in 1982; nowadays, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, even BMW and Mercedes have a plant in the US. The truth is, Japanese automakers have the experience in buliding lighter, more fuel efficient, and better engineered cars than the US can bulid. Sure, we have our sports cars, some luxury sedans are better values as well; but in the small car game, the US is still 10 years behind in my opinion. Too many dinosaurs...and the asteroids have been striking for a while!

To sum it up, It really doesn't matter one bit to me whether the car is American, European, Japanese, or whatever. To the educated consumer (and not the brainwashed one), quality, performance, and value will still be the 3 most important factors of choosing the right car.

Youre not really the person I want to argue with so sure hodas can be as american as you want them to be :D
 
Why argue??
Who are you wanting to argue with?
Thats not what this thread is about.
Be nice. ;)
Misnblu
 
Yeah, but those Civics rock when you do soup them up.
Heck, with a weight of only 1600-2000 lbs (in real life or game) the power to weight ratio speakes for itself.
I love the Spoon Civic and have competed in the 591 hp class races and whipped up some serious butt. ;) :D
Matter of fact, the first car I ever bought when I played the gt2 game, the Civic hatch was my first purchase and won multitudes of races.
Man I love the Civics in real life and the game.
Oh and I do love all cars, domestic and import.
Misnblu
 
Personally, I just wished the latest Civic Type-R or Acura RSX came in rear-wheel drive. My only complaint is that I want something more of a challenge than front-wheel drive. I can't afford an S2000 just yet, and they sell for nearly the same price used as well!
 
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