Who is getting an Xbox One for Forza 6?

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How rude @mrlatte, All of that just because I not spending MY money your way:confused:

That's not it. It's because you've spent your money in the first place, and are then making a big issue out of returning it. Nobody understands why you bought it in the first place, nor does anyone really want to hear your story. There, how's that for rude?
 
That's not it. It's because you've spent your money in the first place, and are then making a big issue out of returning it. Nobody understands why you bought it in the first place, nor does anyone really want to hear your story. There, how's that for rude?

I don't have to meet everyone's approval on my experiences, I just shared them, if you don't agree, or it's not useful to you, all you have to do is keep scrolling until you find a post worthy, don't stop scrolling on my account.:cool:
 
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One fact I didn't miss, Walmarts return policy.:lol:
So I guess that's an open acknowledgement that everything you just did was all because of your misinformation and lack of comprehension. Such an odd way to go about things.
 
I already returned The Xbox One and the Thrustmaster Ferrari 458 Spider wheel, plus the extended warranty for A full Refund.:cool:

Well I hope you're right about Turn 10, because you were definitely wrong about Walmart:lol:

Your very lucky that walmart gave you a refund, I know I wouldn't have.

As for T10, as I have already told you. They have advertised the fact that Porsche is coming to FM6, which means if they don't add them. They are liable under false advertising laws, which means they get into big trouble for false advertising if Porsche doesn't come to FM6 next year. Microsoft would at the very least force a change of management at T10 for something like that, if not replace the studio outright. The fact they have already advertised the inclusion of Porsche in FM6, and used it as a selling point for the game. Means their deal with EA/Porsche is already done and dusted. You may not have experience with T10, but they never tell us that this car or that track will be in game if they cant put it in.
 
Your very lucky that walmart gave you a refund, I know I wouldn't have.
Dude you are Hilarious:lol: I'm glad your not CEO of Walmart:lol: but really luck has nothing to do with it, it has always been Walmart Policy, 15 Days to return any Computer, or Video game Console, The only exception is software, once you open it you're stuck.


As for T10, as I have already told you. They have advertised the fact that Porsche is coming to FM6, which means if they don't add them. They are liable under false advertising laws, which means they get into big trouble for false advertising if Porsche doesn't come to FM6 next year. Microsoft would at the very least force a change of management at T10 for something like that, if not replace the studio outright. The fact they have already advertised the inclusion of Porsche in FM6, and used it as a selling point for the game. Means their deal with EA/Porsche is already done and dusted. You may not have experience with T10, but they never tell us that this car or that track will be in game if they cant put it in.

Come On Bro, How many time do I have to say, "I hope you are right", I really do, I am not betting against you, I don't want Turn 10 to drop the ball on Porsche in FM6, I really don't, but I'm not willing to bet $530.00 on it either, not even if Dan Greenawalt visited me personally and promised me with his hand on ten bibles:lol: It is not a slight against you or your knowledge of Forza Motorsport, This is my first experience with Xbox One and Turn 10, I may be a little jaded because of so many years of let downs with Polyphony Digital and GT, And since you're so cool about it I will confess, I also want to see what Thrustmaster is going to do about the PS4 Base Servo, or If they are going to make a Thrustmaster T150 equivalent for the XBOX One as well, this Porsche deal is a factor, but not the only factor, Thrustmaster, and Polyphony Digital are factors too, So don't take my decision on the XBOX personally, I still have the FM6 Disc in hope you are right, So peace my friend and enjoy FM6.
 
So don't take my decision on the XBOX personally

Nobody is taking this personally, despite you repeatedly trying to frame it as such. People are simply marvelling at the distinct lack of insight you seem to have. If your entire decision of the purchase hinged on a single marque, why even get the whole kit now? Absolutely nothing has changed about the Porsche situation since the Official announcement back in June that they would be arriving in FM6 in 2016. Nothing. There has never been a time when Porsche was promised as DLC content, only for it to not show up, either. So there is no precedent for that happening.

Barring Turn 10 suddenly closing up shop, or something equally massive, Porsche will be arriving for the game. They wouldn't have announced them otherwise.
 
@Haulin_Hebrew

Hey man. If you didn't know Porsche is not currently officially in FM6, then you should have waited and not rushed ahead to buy everything including the game. Why do it?

Was it impulse or were you led to believe otherwise from friends, members of the community?

Porsche has already been advertised as coming to Forza 6 sometime in 2016 as an expansion with a sizable amount of cars, challenges and achievements.

I get the impression that you won't play the game and would sell it if FM6 doesn't get Porsche.

It seems you have an extreme obsession and Porsche is the only thing that matters to you to, for you to want to disregard and not play the rest of the game and to sell the hardware.

If you are truly an enthusiast for everything good about car culture, and racing. Then you would not dismiss the rest of the game especially a game this good now is too good to pass up for any petrol / piston head.

You should have kept the hardware, put FM6 to one side until Porsche DLC is available and buy Forza Horizon 2 which has Porsches.
 
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I didn't get a Xbox One for FM6, simply because I already had one. :P
In seriousness, I originally planned to wait until FM6 came out to fork over the money for a Xbox One, but Forza Horizon 2 changed that; the game just looked to good at the time.
 
I am a hard core circuit Sim-Racer, I have A PS4 with Project CARS, F1 2015, and Driveclub. So I don't mind waiting 7 months for Porsche in FM6. If I were that desperate I would just buy Need for Speed on PS4:lol: But I would NEVER buy an EA game, because of the impact is has put on the Sim Racing Community, and it is because of this Turn 10+EA present deal I really don't see EA going anywhere in 2016, And this is the reason I believe the EA+ Porsche Licensing will be renewed, because Microsoft and Turn10 would have just waited until 2016 and released the Porsche Car Pack in January instead of negotiating a deal with EA that would give them a Porsche Car Pack release after EA's Need For Speed Release in Nov. 2015. Pushing FM6 Porsche Car Pack release date in Spring 2016, 7 months after the launch of FM6. So it seems to me that EA is very much in the picture for 2016 and beyond, and making the possibilities of Porsche in Gran Turismo 7 very unlikely.:(

well, fact is that you can get waaaay more fun in forza horizon 2 than all the games you list here.
(I know 'cause I have them too)
and as a game that compliments fm6? cant beat the combo really.
plus your heartache, Porsche


the rest that you write show that you have little to no experience in ms/t10, and you are afraid its gonna be like pd/kaz.

PRO-TIP: it isn't :D


too late though as I read you already returned the box & wheel -how many days did you play f6 btw?


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I don't want Turn 10 to drop the ball on Porsche in FM6, I really don't, but I'm not willing to bet $530.00 on it either
bet you $1000 or even $10000 that fm6 is going to have its big fat porsche pack in 2016.
lol
 
I was thinking about switching to xbox 1 because of the realistic sounds and decal editor on FM6. But I do have a few downfalls for myself, 1st being that the xbox controller will be weird for me to use because i am used to the ps3 controller and 2nd I barely know anyone who owns a xbox 1. Pretty much all my friends have the ps4.
 
I was thinking about switching to xbox 1 because of the realistic sounds and decal editor on FM6. But I do have a few downfalls for myself, 1st being that the xbox controller will be weird for me to use because i am used to the ps3 controller and 2nd I barely know anyone who owns a xbox 1. Pretty much all my friends have the ps4.

You get used to the controller, in fact I started my ps3 the other day and the trusty dualshock felt small and weird...

If you want friends to race there's a gamertag exchange thread, plus the community feels great here. There's no (very, very little if any) pessimism, we don't need to start discussions based on "will we ever get that feature we were promised?" "Do you love/hate +10 year assets?" It is very care free, just think about it.
 
I never liked the look of the XBox controllers before getting my 360, nor did they ever feel great playing demos in-store. But those tended to be shooters. For racing games, I find it better than the DS3/DS4 simply because of the far superior triggers. I grew up playing GT on a controller, but when I'm stuck without a wheel, I can't go back to the old button layout GT used anymore.
 
as I read you already returned the box & wheel -how many days did you play f6 btw?
Played It about 7 Days, Loved every second of it, I loved it so much I may have to put off buying Assetto Corsa, until I decide which console or both consoles, I personally don't think Polyphony Digital can beat FM6, but I waited and invested so much for this long for GT7, I may as well see it through:lol:


It seems you have an extreme obsession and Porsche is the only thing that matters to you to, for you to want to disregard and not play the rest of the game and to sell the hardware.

I Really Really LOVE Porsche but, :idea:If Porsche was the ONLY thing that mattered to me I would not be a long time four generation Gran Turismo Fan, from GT1 to GT6 plus GT7 when it is released, I wouldn't have bought an PS4 and Project CARS, Driveclub, and F1 2015 and Assetto Corsa when released because Porsche was not promised in any of these nor is it promised for GT7 and Asseto Corsa, but I will buy when it is released, and believe me, FM6 is very impressive and it is the yard stick that I am comparing everything else to, and if you need more details just read the SlipZtrEm response.



Nobody is taking this personally, despite you repeatedly trying to frame it as such. People are simply marvelling at the distinct lack of insight you seem to have. If your entire decision of the purchase hinged on a single marque, why even get the whole kit now? Absolutely nothing has changed about the Porsche situation since the Official announcement back in June that they would be arriving in FM6 in 2016. Nothing. There has never been a time when Porsche was promised as DLC content, only for it to not show up, either. So there is no precedent for that happening.

Barring Turn 10 suddenly closing up shop, or something equally massive, Porsche will be arriving for the game. They wouldn't have announced them otherwise.

I don't mind my ignorance being marveled, if that's the case:lol:, But I really don't think it is the case because most of the responses are in defense of the character of Turn 10 and the guarantee that Porsche will be in FM6, and if it was the case, which make no since, because how does my product return benefit or enrich anyone else's life:confused: Fact is I didn't know it was going to be 7 months or more, depending on the Release of EA's Need For Speed, so I changed my mind, and decided to wait, What's the the big deal:confused: I'm not bashing FM6 or Turn 10, I'm just waiting:lol: In the mean while I will just sit back and watch, Turn 10, Thrustmaster, and Polyphony Digital, to see how a few factors are going to work out. I just learned that you can buy at Walmart a Refurbished XBOX ONE for $283.00 with a 3 year extended warranty, the warranty is is not listed under the Refurbished XBOX One, but you can go to: http://www.walmart.com/ip/45924826 and buy the Warranty online separately then activate it to your purchase afterwards, That's about a $70.00 savings and you're covered from any possible defects for 3 years, That's one benefit to my waiting that helps myself and anyone else buying an XBOX One for FM6, Plus I want to see when Thrustmaster is going to release a Servo Base for the PS4, because I like the XBOX One Bundle better with theTX L 28 GT Wheel, then all I would have to buy is the Servo Base for the PS4, Then I would have two FFB set-ups with my favorite wheel for the low low and also if Thrustmaster is going to make the TX equivalent to the NEW Thrusmaster T150, that is another $150.00-$250.00 savings by waiting, and if GT7 isn't as good or even near FM6, I am selling my PS4 and use it to buy the Thrustmaster L 28GT Bundle, which could save another $200.00 or more, so that's what i'm doing, and if that doesn't answer all the so-called marvel as you put it, then marvel on:lol: because there is nothing else to add, my Xbox One is gone until I choose to repurchase. until then I will continue to enjoy Project CARS, Driveclub and F1 2015, because I am still racing.:sly:
 
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If you're use to D-Pad Racing there is an option, Xbox One has a Non-Force Feed Back Wheel for $94.00, called The Thrustmaster Ferrari 458 Racing Wheel, is a great option, over a D-pad, only $94.00 very precision, And you will need it when trying to hold a line in a curve, or driving a manual transmission
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I have one, and as you say it's very handy for holding a line in a curve. I tend to get a bit on-off in the turns when
using a pad
 
:idea:If Porsche was the ONLY thing that mattered to me I would not be a long time four generation Gran Turismo Fan, from GT1 to GT6 plus GT7 when it is released, I wouldn't have bought an PS4 and Project CARS, Driveclub, and F1 2015 and Assetto Corsa when released because Porsche was not promised in any of these nor is it promised for GT7 and Asseto Corsa, but I will buy when it is released, and believe me, FM6 is very impressive and it is the yard stick that I am comparing everything else to, and if you need more details just read the SlipZtrEm response.
Then it makes even less sense that you used it as a reason as to why you got rid of the game because it doesn't have Porsche, yet. No sense at all.

I don't mind my ignorance being marveled, if that's the case:lol:, But I really don't think it is the case because most of the responses are in defense of the character of Turn 10 and the guarantee that Porsche will be in FM6
They are in defense of Turn 10 because you keep saying that they offered Porsche before and the deal fell through. You are not using facts. That is exactly the reason that people are on you.

Fact is I didn't know it was going to be 7 months or more, depending on the Release of EA's Need For Speed, so I changed my mind, and decided to wait, What's the the big deal
Because, again, you try to downplay a company for something that they didn't do. Because you failed to read, and then went back and made it seem like it was something they aren't doing, is your fault. How did you not know when it was going to be, the only article that explained the situation let us know that it wasn't going to come until 2016. How did you miss the part where the date is involved, or more specifically, that they said it wont be in at launch?

I'm not bashing FM6 or Turn 10, I'm just waiting
Except for the fact that you keep making up false stories of them dropping the Porsche pack before.

That's one benefit to my waiting that could help myself and anyone else buying an XBOX One for FM6
It's not a benefit to your waiting, as you didn't wait. That option was available for the start, and did not come as a result of you "waiting."


Please, please, pleaase learn to use a period instead of breaking all your sentences with commas.
 
I have one, and as you say it's very handy for holding a line in a curve. I tend to get a bit on-off in the turns when
using a pad
I'm glad It helped,👍 It doesn't take that long to adjust to wheel driving, It took me about a week, in the long run the improved lap times outweigh the learning curve.:sly:

Ok, Dude, Whatever, you, say:lol:, I, just, have, nothing, else, to, say, to, you:cool:.
 
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Ok, Dude, Whatever, you, say:lol:, I, just, have, nothing, else, to, say, to, you:cool:.

You know, there is no need to be a douche just because we can not understand your reasoning behind you decision. Especially when you openly admit you play other racing games that have never seen Porsche anywhere near their franchise. That just makes you come across as arrogant.
 
You know, there is no need to be a douche just because we can not understand your reasoning behind you decision. Especially when you openly admit you play other racing games that have never seen Porsche anywhere near their franchise. That just makes you come across as arrogant.

I didn't respond to you like that when you questioned me Ialyrn, so why are you calling me a douche because of the way I deal with negative people:confused:, Me and ImmaRobot have already locked horns before on A different thread, That is why I initially responded "I'm not going there with you again" check our discourse on this thread, I got penalized 10 points so I just ignore or avoid him for the most part because he only see the negative in all that I say, so if he is twisting my words or making a big issue over something trivial that's how I respond to him. Fact is nobody but me is paying for what I buy or return, so whether if everyone agrees or disagrees, understands or misunderstands has no emotional effect on me, to me it's just a post of MY experience, If you're cool and you ask me why i did what I did, or say what said, I will respond as a friend, but if people start trolling and spinning what I say to stir up drama or controversy, I'll give them the "what ever" and keep moving, because they are not worth loosing my GTP membership, and I don't want to report people, because you are not suppose to hound people to bully or argue on this forum, So if you deal with me, let it be how I deal with you, not how I deal with someone else, because you may not have all the facts. My point was I'm already heavily invested in the PS4 console and all the racing games so at this time FM6 even though I really like it, doesn't benefit me as much without Porsche, I already have all of those cars in other games plus other factors I have already addressed and I haven't had any experience with Turn10, So I will wait now that I know it will be 7 months or more, I'm going with my gut, not what another guy has dictated to me. I ask one question, Can DLC be transferred? Everybody got upset because of my Xbox One transaction, I don't tell other people how to spend their money, or degrade them because they disagree with me, Be cool with me, and I'll be cool with you.:cool:
 
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Me and ImmaRobot have already locked horns before on A different thread, That is why I initially responded "I'm not going there with you again" check our discourse on this thread, I got penalized 10 points
So you obviously got points for doing something wrong. Not my fault that you couldn't get a point across without breaking the AUP.

he only see the negative in all that I say, so if he is twisting my words or making a big issue over something trivial that's how I respond to him
No one is twisting your words. I'm using the direct quotes from you. So again stop fabricating stories, and try going off fact for once. You are only posting negatively to try to prove your point, with false made up stories, for that matter. So of course I'm going to post negatively.

but if people start trolling and spinning what I say to stir up drama or controversy
No one is doing that, so please, again, stop making up stories.

because you may not have all the facts
Ironic.

I already have all of those cars in other games plus other factors I have already addressed and I haven't had any experience with Turn10
Except that no you don't. One of the specifics for you getting rid of it was because no Porsches. Yet you list all these other games that have no Porsche, so it makes no sense at all why you'd use that as a reason.
 
I can write on that thread any time I'd like, but I don't have anything to say. Adding a smiley face for the sake of doing it would do nothing but bring the thread off topic and result in a punishable action.

Much like you are doing now.
 
How rude @mrlatte, All of that just because I not spending MY money your way:confused:

(calm voice)
For the record I NEVER told you how to spend your money once. So again just further example of you making false stuff up.

I have to agree with Robot, you not only make little common sense to your reason of returning your console/wheel and just blab on about AC / GT7 when neither of them are any more likely to be available any-time soon.

The FM6 Porsche Pack will be available before them that is for certain and potentially FH3 too.

What is rather hilarious though (to me) is that you would rather keep playing F1 2015 / Project Cars / which you could do on Xbox One anyways yet still be playing FM6 (easily the best game of them all) and instead of returning the Xbox you could of sold the PS4 (if you wanted) only missing Drive Club. I agree is fun game too but rather limited.

Instead you do without FM6 / FH2 to keep the console that will be the last to get the games you talk about.

Really got to give it to you man great going and happy waiting!
We shall agree to disagree...
 
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I Really Really LOVE Porsche but, :idea:If Porsche was the ONLY thing that mattered to me I would not be a long time four generation Gran Turismo Fan, from GT1 to GT6 plus GT7 when it is released, I wouldn't have bought an PS4 and Project CARS, Driveclub, and F1 2015 and Assetto Corsa when released because Porsche was not promised in any of these nor is it promised for GT7 and Asseto Corsa, but I will buy when it is released, and believe me, FM6 is very impressive and it is the yard stick that I am comparing everything else to, and if you need more details just read the SlipZtrEm response.

So FM6 is the yardstick... despite it being the one you don't have any real experience with. Gotcha.

Given your reasoning behind returning the One, I'd have to ask why you bothered to get the PS4, since it offers nothing over the Microsoft system, at least nothing that you seem to deem important.

I don't mind my ignorance being marveled, if that's the case:lol:, But I really don't think it is the case because most of the responses are in defense of the character of Turn 10 and the guarantee that Porsche will be in FM6, and if it was the case, which make no since, because how does my product return benefit or enrich anyone else's life:confused:Fact is I didn't know it was going to be 7 months or more, depending on the Release of EA's Need For Speed, so I changed my mind, and decided to wait, What's the the big deal:confused: I'm not bashing FM6 or Turn 10, I'm just waiting:lol: In the mean while I will just sit back and watch, Turn 10, Thrustmaster, and Polyphony Digital, to see how a few factors are going to work out. I just learned that you can buy at Walmart a Refurbished XBOX ONE for $283.00 with a 3 year extended warranty, the warranty is is not listed under the Refurbished XBOX One, but you can go to: http://www.walmart.com/ip/45924826 and buy the Warranty online separately then activate it to your purchase afterwards, That's about a $70.00 savings and you're covered from any possible defects for 3 years, That's one benefit to my waiting that helps myself and anyone else buying an XBOX One for FM6, Plus I want to see when Thrustmaster is going to release a Servo Base for the PS4, because I like the XBOX One Bundle better with theTX L 28 GT Wheel, then all I would have to buy is the Servo Base for the PS4, Then I would have two FFB set-ups with my favorite wheel for the low low and also if Thrustmaster is going to make the TX equivalent to the NEW Thrusmaster T150, that is another $150.00-$250.00 savings by waiting, and if GT7 isn't as good or even near FM6, I am selling my PS4 and use it to buy the Thrustmaster L 28GT Bundle, which could save another $200.00 or more, so that's what i'm doing, and if that doesn't answer all the so-called marvel as you put it, then marvel on:lol: because there is nothing else to add, my Xbox One is gone until I choose to repurchase. until then I will continue to enjoy Project CARS, Driveclub and F1 2015, because I am still racing.:sly:

First, let's just get this out of the way: Use proper sentence structure. That is a giant mess of text, barely making sense.

I don't mind my ignorance being marveled, if that's the case:lol:, But I really don't think it is the case because most of the responses are in defense of the character of Turn 10 and the guarantee that Porsche will be in FM6, and if it was the case, which make no since, because how does my product return benefit or enrich anyone else's life:confused:

This doesn't make any "since".

Fact is I didn't know it was going to be 7 months or more, depending on the Release of EA's Need For Speed, so I changed my mind, and decided to wait, What's the the big deal:confused: I'm not bashing FM6 or Turn 10, I'm just waiting:lol: In the mean while I will just sit back and watch, Turn 10, Thrustmaster, and Polyphony Digital, to see how a few factors are going to work out.

You didn't know it was going to be anything from 4 months to 16 months (I'm not sure where you got 7 from), considering the only time Turn 10 has announced Porsche for FM6, 2016 was directly mentioned?

It has nothing to do with NFS.

It isn't waiting, though: It was making the decision to buy it, then return it, despite being told that Porsche is in fact coming. If Porsche is that important, that you bought the entire kit only to find out that you might have to wait a few months - but, that the marque is definitely, absolutely coming - then why get rid of it if you "fully plan" on buying it when the Porsche pack does become available? It just seems incredibly illogical.

and if GT7 isn't as good or even near FM6, I am selling my PS4 and use it to buy the Thrustmaster L 28GT Bundle, which could save another $200.00 or more

No, that'd be losing around $200, since I'm quite positive you can't return that for the full retail price anymore. One has to wonder why you bought it when there hasn't even been a mention of GT7 yet.

Two out of three of those games are already available on the One, while FH2 compares to DriveClub... oh, and has Porsche.

Now, despite you making up a story otherwise, nobody is telling you how to spend your money. People are just trying to unwind the contradictions in reasoning.
 
(calm voice)
For the record I NEVER told you how to spend your money once. So again just further example of you making false stuff up.

I have to agree with Robot, you not only make little common sense to your reason of returning your console/wheel and just blab on about AC / GT7 when neither of them are any more likely to be available any-time soon.

The FM6 Porsche Pack will be available before them that is for certain and potentially FH3 too.

What is rather hilarious though (to me) is that you would rather keep playing F1 2015 / Project Cars / which you could do on Xbox One anyways yet still be playing FM6 (easily the best game of them all) and instead of returning the Xbox you could of sold the PS4 (if you wanted) only missing Drive Club. I agree is fun game too but rather limited.

Instead you do without FM6 / FH2 to keep the console that will be the last to get the games you talk about.

Really got to give it to you man great going and happy waiting!
We shall agree to disagree...


(Also in A Calm voice)
#1. Name Of Thread= Who is getting an Xbox One for Forza 6?
#2. I bought an XBOX One for FM6: (On Topic)
#3. Is Porsche in or projected to be in FM6?: (On Topic)
#4. Is Xbox One, FM6, and Porsche associated?: (On Topic)
#5. My Comment=I am returning My Xbox One, and wait for FM6 Porsche DLC: (On Topic)
#6. Your Comment=Thank You for sharing your warped mind: (Not On Topic) and NOT Cool.

Dude whether you agree or disagree, understand or misunderstand my comment, it is my experience and my right to post, as long as I'm not violating any GT Planet rules, If you don't like it keep scrolling, You say you weren't dictating to me but even in your response in this comment you are trying to dictate my choice that you didn't invest one penny in. If I wanted to buy an Xbox One every month for 14 days and return it every month for a whole year, how does that effect your financial situation? You would have done thing differently, I have no problem with that, but do you have to be rude about it? I will choose what to sell, and what to keep, and when to sell or when to keep, regarding the things I pay for, I wouldn't sell my PS4 before GT7 is released after waiting three years, maybe after if I thought FM6 was just that much better, but I will decide then, by my own terms, why would I sell my PS4 when I got a full refund on my Xbox One, and I can buy another Xbox One for less money than what I paid the first time, and I would have kindly explained that if you weren't so rude, and I can agree to disagree and still be cool with you, because I'm cool like that:cool:
And Patience is a Virtue, The wait is no problem, and dealing with Polyphony Digital, Patience is mandatory.

I can write on that thread any time I'd like,
And @ImaRobot Whatever dude, If you say so.:lol:
 
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And @ImaRobot Whatever dude, If you say so.:lol:
I'm not sure what makes you think I can't write anything in that thread? I'm not banned from it, heck the post reply button is still at the bottom. With nothing to add to the subject, why should I post?
 
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