Why haven't you gotten a wheel yet?

[zorrofox]

This is all getting a bit silly now.

For the record - if I could afford to I'd buy a good wheel AND a 2nd PS4. I'd have a dedicated rig too, in a dedicated room.

Sadly, real-life means that's probably not going to happen. So I use a controller (6 axis) and still get within a second or so of what I'd probably achieve with a wheel. I can live with that.

 

[Clean Racer]

Bought G29 at BB Black Friday Sale for $229.00. Used twice may return to the store after Christmas? Currently using Game PAD!

You are giving up too soon. Stick with. You will get fast again.

 

[zorrofox]

On a separate note... Life.

 

[Clean Racer]

I don't understand the idea of wheels lacking value or being too expensive. If you play for a ton of hours anyway you will get the value out of it. If you put a few bucks aside for a little while you can eventually spring for a wheel.

Now, if you have a spouse that will hassle you or you just don't have the space for it. Well, that I can understand.

On a separate note. If you're a guy and you didn't plan a man cave for yourself as part of the living arrangements...you made a mistake. Some times you just need to get away for a bit, without actually getting away.

 

[xXMann07]

Nice! I like your thinking.....

 

[BadFlounder]

I used a wheel before with GT6. Now I am finding I have to put so much efforts all round. I plan to dedicate more time to overcome this hurdle.

I think "hurdle" is a good term. Stick with it. It takes a lot of time to adjust to a wheel in some cases. At least that's how it went with me. I was a pad user for many many years. Years ago, I bought a T300 and only used it sparingly, always growing frustrated with it fairly quickly, and throwing it back in the closet, etc. I probably went through 4 or 5 attempts at "transitioning" to the wheel, and never stuck with it. I think it was GT Sport that kind of got me to try sticking with it for a while. I kept at it for a couple weeks and at some point in there things just kind of clicked. I became faster using the wheel. I mean, the wheel won't make anyone a better racer (better lines, better at braking, etc), but it helps with consistency and that's what I finally was able to take advantage of once I got used to it. IMHO, the wheel is a ton of fun and well worth sticking with, but I also have the room in my office to have it set up all the time. If I had to drag it out and set it up every time I am sure that would turn me off from using it many times.

I also get that everyone is different. Some people prefer playing on controllers, and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, sometimes I still prefer a pad versus climbing into my rig and dealing with the wheel. We are fortunate that GT Sport is so well balanced for both input methods. I think that is one of the game's greatest strengths.

 

[O604]

Got my wheel today. Still figuring it out. The info on GTPlanet has been super helpful.

First thing I noticed was the metal pedals were pretty cold with just socks. So I went out and bought a pair of slippers with grip for$5. Doubles as dust covers over the pedals when not using it. Totally recommend these.

 

[xXMann07]

I think "hurdle" is a good term. Stick with it. It takes a lot of time to adjust to a wheel in some cases. At least that's how it went with me. I was a pad user for many many years. Years ago, I bought a T300 and only used it sparingly, always growing frustrated with it fairly quickly, and throwing it back in the closet, etc. I probably went through 4 or 5 attempts at "transitioning" to the wheel, and never stuck with it. I think it was GT Sport that kind of got me to try sticking with it for a while. I kept at it for a couple weeks and at some point in there things just kind of clicked. I became faster using the wheel. I mean, the wheel won't make anyone a better racer (better lines, better at braking, etc), but it helps with consistency and that's what I finally was able to take advantage of once I got used to it. IMHO, the wheel is a ton of fun and well worth sticking with, but I also have the room in my office to have it set up all the time. If I had to drag it out and set it up every time I am sure that would turn me off from using it many times.

I also get that everyone is different. Some people prefer playing on controllers, and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, sometimes I still prefer a pad versus climbing into my rig and dealing with the wheel. We are fortunate that GT Sport is so well balanced for both input methods. I think that is one of the game's greatest strengths.

+1

 

[Mires]

Found a sale for the G29 yesterday - for 205€ (-49%). Ordered it today and added used(well, opened product for less) Wheel Stand Pro V2 for 90€. It will be delivered on Saturday and I can't wait to set it up. It'll be a step up for me to get used to 3-pedal set as I only used DFGT 2-pedal base wheel back in time with GT6. Since GTS launch I drive the motion control and I consider myself a decent driver (not the fastest, but competitive within 3-5s to top on some longer tracks), but I suck at MT with it. And the feedback which wheel can give you is really useful to handle car more precisely - e.g. Pad doesn't have the resistance of wheel trying to straighten up in corner, so it is so easy to mess up the corner exit on the pad by just holding the turning just a bit longer. This is why I want the wheel over the pad I'm using now.

 

[CustomX]

Think Santa might be bringing a G29. Trying to decide between Wheelstand and Playseat Challenge. I think Wheelstand is gonna be less obtrusive and I like the fact it can be left set up and just slid into the corner, whereas the Playseat is a bit more of an eyesore even when folded. Don't think wifey will tolerate.

My one concern is that my office chair has wheels. Anyone got any good hacks for introducing a braking mechanism to stop the chair rolling around? Needs to be as unobtrusive as possible. Preferably not wooden blocks and wedges. I'd like ot be able to jam something into the wheels rather than have an extra thing on the floor

 

[klondike]

Think Santa might be bringing a G29. Trying to decide between Wheelstand and Playseat Challenge. I think Wheelstand is gonna be less obtrusive and I like the fact it can be left set up and just slid into the corner, whereas the Playseat is a bit more of an eyesore even when folded. Don't think wifey will tolerate.

My one concern is that my office chair has wheels. Anyone got any good hacks for introducing a braking mechanism to stop the chair rolling around? Needs to be as unobtrusive as possible. Preferably not wooden blocks and wedges. I'd like ot be able to jam something into the wheels rather than have an extra thing on the floor

I would recomend the Playseat challenge.

I had both and I Enjoy the Playseat Challenge a lot more.

The wheelstand never really was a good option for me, Its still a hassle to set it up each time, and dont feeel anywear near as good as the challenge.

Just summing my expirience up.

Wheelstand.
Chair and pedals are always all over the place when using it. Dont feel nearly as sturdy as the playseat challenge.

Playseat challenge. It feels rock solid compared to the wheelstand. I am 196 CM / 95 kg. and it fits me very good. I sit very comfortable in it. Before I bought I was worryed if I was to tall or to heavy buts its no problem at all.

 

[CustomX]

Thanks for the feeeback man. Sounds like an easy decision. The wife can choose between blue or black version.

 

[Satomiblood]

I would like to get a wheel. I'm just afraid of spending a good bit of money on something only to end up not liking it. This is why I might shoot for a cheap wheel first before opting for a more expensive upgrade. The DS4 has also been pretty adequate, so I haven't felt the need to totally abandon it yet.

 

[CustomX]

I'm also somewhat shuddering at the overall expense of wheel and playseat for a past-time that would ideally be nothing more than a bit of fun every now and then and not take up too much of my time. Wishful thinking.

Resale value on both wheels and playseats appears to be pretty high though, so I figure I can recoup 80% of the cost anyway if I find after a few months that its sitting unused and taking up space.

 

[joost_wentink]

First I thought that a wheel would not give me more gaming pleasure. That for me was the reason I did not have one. Last year I diceded to go for it and get one: a t300rs gt edition combined with a th8a shifter mounted on a wheel stand pro. I upgraded the 3tpa pedals with stiffer springs (this must be done in my opinion). You definitly need to know how to set it up because that makes all the difference! The fun I have with it is great. I have some real world racing experience (for example the Nordschleife) and find it pretty realistic! Well spend money!

 

[CustomX]

Anyone care to share the latest consensus on ideal G29 settings so I can hit the ground running?

 

[O604]

Anyone care to share the latest consensus on ideal G29 settings so I can hit the ground running?

I read a lot from others. But came to the conclusion it was a personal preference thing. Also depends on the car.

Consensus setting seems to be Sensitivity max, Torque and FFB middle. I have mine set on Sensitivity max , Torque and FB minimum, Assists off, ABS default, TCS off.

Trial by error (trying everything) worked for me more than tips from others.

Best of luck.

 

[CustomX]

Thanks for the answer!

Well, it was a fruitful Xmas. The G29 is a whole new ballgame. I'm nowhere near as good with it, as I am with the DS4. Like going back to square 1 in many ways. Cars that seemed easy to drive with the DS4, suddenly seem totally different using the wheel. Now I've used both, I can honestly say that using the DS4 feels like I'm playing a game, whereas using the G29, feels like "driving". The pedals definitely take some getting used to. Impressed with the G29 quality.

A couple of Q's

Q1. I bought the shifter as well but am waiting on the bracket to attach it to the Playseat. What's the deal with the clutch? I've read a few comments about it not operating like a real clutch. Is there a setting somewhere in the menu where I can configure it?

Q2. Left foot braking. Is it a thing? A lot of the time I feel like I'm not getting on the brakes quickly or hard enough.....

Q3. The cables. What do you guys do with them? Bit messy. Seem to always be in the way....

 

[Groundfish]

Re left foot braking I don’t and never will.
I think it’s advantageous if your feet are as coordinated as a third world pickpockets hands, but if you are like me and spent a life driving manual irl...
I’ll never be able to do it better than right personally.
Everyone will tell me I’m wrong for this but it’s not for me.
It’s like selecting what car. For me, I do better sticking with a car a few weeks rather than switching.

 

[CustomX]

Thanks for feedback. I've also only ever owned manual cars. Using left foot to brake doesn't feel right, although you do it on gokarts, and after using the left trigger for braking on the DS4, it doesn't seem quite so weird.

Another couple of Q's.

Q4. Button mapping. Where do you guys like to map your "reverse" gear to? I'm finding that I need it more than I'd like, while I'm getting accustomed to the wheel!

Q5. Loosely related to button mapping. Indicators. Why do they exist in GTS? And headlight blinking. Why does this exist? Do these functions serve any real purpose or are they simply rounding out the realism of the cars?

 

[MisterMR44]

Just got a G29, shifter and GT Omega stand for Christmas. My first wheel. I'm generating totally rubbish lap times compared to using the controller... but I'm actually really enjoying the whole GT Sport experience so much more now.

CustomX… I'm no expert, but here's my answers to your Q's:-

Q1. The clutch doesn't appear to be supported in GT Sport [please correct me if I'm wrong, experts out there]. The shifter certainly is supported... but you can just slam the gears in up or down the box as if you were using paddle shifters or the DS4 triggers. The cars don't stall so... I guess the clutch pedal is just somewhere to rest your left foot until you need to use the the brakes (if you're a left foot braker of course).

Q2. Speaking of brakes... yes, left foot braking is definitely a thing. In fact, I'm sure I've seen a 'wide brake footplate' available for the G29's pedals for the 'paddle shift only' racers out there (it spans the brake and clutch pedals so that in effect, you just have two pedals). It doesn't suit everyone though. Most who try it at first find they don't apply enough braking force. As with everything though, you get better at it with practice. A lot of practice. Like... a LOT of practice.

Q3. I use split spring-wrap braided sleeving and Velcro tie wraps for all my cable containment. It's a bit 'Hi-Fi enthusiast' but it keeps everything neat. A must if you have to pack your driving rig away... which I will probably have to once the 'Christmas cheer' wears off with the missus...

Q4. I map reverse to the Triangle button. It's where reverse has always been in my driving games so it's familiar. Having said that, if I find myself facing the wrong way or towards the Armco with a bent bonnet, I just bang my way down the box with the left paddle. You end up in reverse as long as you're at a standstill. It's slower than just hitting the Triangle but you give yourself more time to swear out loud at your misfortune.

Q5. Indicators and headlight blinking are there to give your fellow racers an idea of your intentions. Those with real racecraft and sportmanship will appreciate their implementation. In reality however... the indicators are seemingly activated by accident with some drivers (usually confirmed by the fact that they're on the entire race). And the headlight blinking... that only seems to happen at the very start of a race (where the racer positions are announced) by some who like to see the lights on their cars 'doing something'... or simply or by people using the DualShock controller (in its default button assignments) really 'giving it some' whilst cornering.

 

[CustomX]

Thanks for the feedback and answers, man! Will enact some of those solutions. I totally agree with your sentiments; I'm waaaay worse on the wheel than with the DS4, but the G29 is a fantastic addition and I'm enjoying the game even more than before. It feels like I'm driving now, not playing a game. I get such a buzz out of driving Nordschleife with this new wheel/playseat setup. Its amazing! The wifey just shakes her head and gives me disapproving looks as she reads magazines on the sofa while I drive. Apparently I make some strange faces when I'm "playing cars"!

 

[kilesa4568]

Q1. I bought the shifter as well but am waiting on the bracket to attach it to the Playseat. What's the deal with the clutch? I've read a few comments about it not operating like a real clutch. Is there a setting somewhere in the menu where I can configure it?

It's basically an on/off switch that needs full travel to engage and there's no 'bite' point you can utilise. Pretty crap really but it comes in handy with road cars dropping revs on gear changes. Flooring the clutch keeps the revs up and used with the shifter gives you better acceleration. Not a lot but it's better.

Q2. Left foot braking. Is it a thing? A lot of the time I feel like I'm not getting on the brakes quickly or hard enough.....

Absolutely. You'll be quicker to react with your right foot than your left. It's already on the brake pedal.

Q3. The cables. What do you guys do with them? Bit messy. Seem to always be in the way....

Use the short velcro straps you got with your Challenge seat for a quick fix. Run the console cables down by the pedals (making sure not to pinch one...) and you're sorted.👍

Q4. Button mapping. Where do you guys like to map your "reverse" gear to? I'm finding that I need it more than I'd like, while I'm getting accustomed to the wheel!

I just stick with the paddles for gearing and try not to crash.

Q5. Loosely related to button mapping. Indicators. Why do they exist in GTS? And headlight blinking. Why does this exist? Do these functions serve any real purpose or are they simply rounding out the realism of the cars?

Priceless tools for when you want to convey your intentions to other drivers. Pass left/right indicators to avoid confusion, hazards to say thanks to other well mannered drivers and flashlights for swearing at people in Morse code. I call people '-.. .. -.-. -.- .... . .- -..' a lot.

 

[CustomX]

Absolutely. You'll be quicker to react with your right foot than your left. It's already on the brake pedal.

You mean quicker with your left foot. Correct?

 

[coryclifford]

You mean quicker with your left foot. Correct?

Yes he does. He's getting old and tired. I can say that because we drive together. :tup:

I use 4 and 6 for my G29.

I suggest sitting closer to the TV.

 

[kilesa4568]

You mean quicker with your left foot. Correct?

Correct. Sorry.

It was 50-50 and I :censored:ed it up.

He's getting old and tired.

Cheers pal.

 

[Groundfish]

Just a comment, if you are an experienced real life driver who has used right foot a long time you might find it far more effective to use the right.
It’s important to have as fine control as possible as well as being intuitive for avoiding trouble.
I tried to switch to left for a month and it never worked.

 

[juelz2009]

Well no time to play GTS really and also space in the room, plus wife doesnt like to much clutter around

 

[El_Beardo]

Money.

Took at least a five year break from racing games, went through some pretty hardcore things during that time. Slowly getting back on my feet though. G29 is next my shopping list once Xmas is out of the way.

Unless the better half has been paying attention to my subtle hints . .

Update.

I don't have a wheel because I was on the way to work, my brothers were still out cold from last night, and our neighbour was at work when DPD attempted delivery.

 

[foxymop]

Is it even worth it to buy a wheel for gts?

I'm asking this cause I have a wheel with a brake mod and in any other racing games like project cars 1 and 2, dirt rally, f1 series, etc, I have no problem with the wheel and pedals but in gts, due to the lack of wheel and pedal settings.... it's awful.
I have to remove the brake mod to be able to break.
There are no wheel or pedal calibration, no sensitivity options, nothing.