Will you be updating to 2.12?

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Will you update to 2.12?

  • Yes

    Votes: 341 78.2%

  • No

    Votes: 95 21.8%
  • Total voters
    436
Toronado
Actually not at all what's happening here. Even the most die hard of hybrid defenders rallied against people who were using it as a way to not have to pay for the DLC.
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Yes, quite right on this one. The main difference is, with hacks/jailbreaks (since you were referencing apple kit) they will always allow both sides of business. The one side is the guys who want it to break free from the confines of the game, and expand the experience in ways the producers/developers won't do themselves. The other side is the pirating capabilities. Allowing you to steal content that would normally cost you money.

Often the guys who want the the modding etc, are against the pirating side of it. But there are always going to be people who exploit the system.

Interestingly enough, with the apple iOS stuff, I remember some jailbreak stuff on the first gen idevices, before app store was released, and when app store came out, it looked VERY similar to some of the software for the jailbreak. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if some inspiration and ideas spring up to the devs from these 3rd party modders, which get turned into 1st party developments. If this is the case, perhaps we can hope to see some of whats been going on here in the next installment of GT? Here's to hoping... ;)
 
I updated... but not willingly... damn PS+ automatic updates...

I'm just going to delete the GT5 game data and let it go up to 2.11. I want my cars back.
 
oink83
Yes, quite right on this one. The main difference is, with hacks/jailbreaks (since you were referencing apple kit) they will always allow both sides of business. The one side is the guys who want it to break free from the confines of the game, and expand the experience in ways the producers/developers won't do themselves. The other side is the pirating capabilities. Allowing you to steal content that would normally cost you money.

Often the guys who want the the modding etc, are against the pirating side of it. But there are always going to be people who exploit the system.
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To wit: As far as I'm aware, all of the tools available to make the hybrids like the old GT3 Garage Editor did back in the day purposely only allowed you to mix and match parts/bodies/whatever with the cars that PD offered for free or came with the original game; and to do otherwise required you to either already own the DLC (to work from a base) or you to do it by hand.
 
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So are we going to have to endure constant updates because of these modders? :/

Personally, I think they all should be banned. It's not fair on those who don't do it.
 
definitely NOT upgrading, too many hours spent customizing cars to my specs, online is boring anyway and has been for years now, i doubt i'll put the GT5 disc in my PS3 again to be honest, it was collecting dust before the hybrid explosion and will go back to doing so now.
 
starshipenterz
definitely NOT upgrading, too many hours spent customizing cars to my specs, online is boring anyway and has been for years now, i doubt i'll put the GT5 disc in my PS3 again to be honest, it was collecting dust before the hybrid explosion and will go back to doing so now.
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lol. Has been for years now...so basically what you're saying is it's always been boring? :D
 
starshipenterz
definitely NOT upgrading, too many hours spent customizing cars to my specs, online is boring anyway and has been for years now, i doubt i'll put the GT5 disc in my PS3 again to be honest, it was collecting dust before the hybrid explosion and will go back to doing so now.
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Online is only boring for those who are too lazy to either:

1) go out there and find the multitude of quality race series/alternate websites that provide quality racing
2) too lazy to learn how to race in the above
3) don't know how to organise a decent series (if it's good enough, people will stay, and it will naturally grow), if it isn't - it won't.

Those that have spent the past 2 1/2 years in quality, well organised, and well equalised race series have had, and will continue to do so, extremely exciting and rewarding racing virtually most nights.

Doesn't matter what you want, stock cars, fully tuned cars, historics, modern road cars, GT500s,, DTMs, LMPs - there's quality racing for all types of cars, if you can be bothered to look for it and learn how to be a part of it, or know how to organise something that keeps the good guys coming back.
 
Actually I changed my mind. I'm not updating yet. I'm having more fun with my hybrids than when I usually play online.

I won't update for the same reason as Yauma9 since the only thing I would be missing out on is TT's, DT's, and a few seasonals.
 
Toronado
Laziness has nothing to do with it. A racing series requires far more dedication than an open lobby does.
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Nope - not at all.

You find out what the rules are, follow them and communicate with the organisors.

Not exactly rocket science or hard work...
 
Highlandor
Online is only boring for those who are too lazy to either:

1) go out there and find the multitude of quality race series/alternate websites that provide quality racing
2) too lazy to learn how to race in the above
3) don't know how to organise a decent series (if it's good enough, people will stay, and it will naturally grow), if it isn't - it won't.
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i've participated in several racing series in the past, the days before the engine limiter, or PP system, even afterwards i used to do Super GT and F1 a lot, with zero new additions to the series i've raced every combination of cars/classes many many times over, it's just boring now regardless. GT6/Driveclub can't come soon enough.
 
Highlandor
Nope - not at all.

You find out what the rules are, follow them and communicate with the organisors.

Not exactly rocket science or hard work...
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I have (attempted) to host a few racing series, and just creating a thread about it on GTP (with all the graphics and whatnot) took a lot of effort. You need to find a time where all participants are happy with, you need to decide on the cars to be used, you may want to decide what mods cars are allowed to have. I would say a full days worth of work would be required.

Not to mention that racing series only occur, maybe, once a week. What are you going to do during the rest of the week?

Simply put, it's not as easy as you may think.
 
Highlandor
Nope - not at all.

You find out what the rules are, follow them and communicate with the organisors.

Not exactly rocket science or hard work...
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Does a racing series meet whenever you're available; or a specific, usually repeated time that may fall outside your schedule? Does a racing series build itself around your whim of what you want to drive at a certain time; or a more focused theme? Does a racing series allow variety in tracks and locales; or is it generally restricted to doing the same type of races every time you meet?



Because the answer to all of those questions is the second one, which means that it requires notable dedication to stick with it as it goes on; which entering an open lobby for a couple quick races when you have time does not. It's not "laziness" if something gets in the way of you joining and keeping track of an ongoing series; nevermind starting and running one yourself.
 
MeanElf
Because your bit of offline pleasure, as innocent as it might seem may well cost the community in the form of delays to GT6.
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So by that logic all the Hybrid building for previous games caused the delays of all the next releases. Right. :rolleyes:
 
Voted No, I will not upgrade to 2.12 as it would mean I would not be able to drive my favorite cars in GT5, the one I modified.
I am amazed than more than 75% said they will update, but not sad, everyone gets what they deserved.
They will be able to enjoy the open lobbys, to me open lobbys are a waste of bandwidth.
Kaz might know his audience better than most people here give him credit for. Only need to look at the % of controller vs wheels.
Racing in my league is the only thing I will miss, but not enough to give away the rebirth of GT5 from the ashes, having too much fun modding and testing.
Plus with the secret menu, I can create my own events, so considering, GT5 has never been better for me.
Will have to spend more time racing NKP online to get my racing other human fix.
 
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Toronado
Does a racing series meet whenever you're available; or a specific, usually repeated time that may fall outside your schedule? Does a racing series build itself around your whim of what you want to drive at a certain time; or a more focused theme? Does a racing series allow variety in tracks and locales; or is it generally restricted to doing the same type of races every time you meet?



Because the answer to all of those questions is the second one, which means that it requires notable dedication to stick with it as it goes on; which entering an open lobby for a couple quick races when you have time does not. It's not "laziness" if something gets in the way of you joining and keeping track of an ongoing series; nevermind starting and running one yourself.
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Rubbish...

I built my NON obligation GT series from a handful of friends to over 500 members..

We race all kinds of different cars and tracks, more so than most other sites. We still race the same classes for 2 years now (only changing specs owing to PD's updates)..

If guys miss a night, or 2 or even a month or 2, when they do come back they can still use the same cars and specs they previously did.

How many different websites are you a member of or have raced with? Try taking your blinkers off and spreading your wings a bit, you'll see how wrong you are....

It is lazy if people can't be bothered to look around and learn the common 'rules' that make quality, equalised online racing what it is - extremely good.

All games require an element of learning / working out, learning and working out quality online racing - how to have it and where to find it is no different.

If people can't be bothered, that's nothing to do with dedicaton, that's just being lazy...
 
Fortunate enough to have two PS3's here, so I'll be doing both. I'm definitely on the side of the hybrid community though, and feel that PD has completely mishandled this situation.

I'm certainly chapped I can't use my hybrids for tandem drifting online anymore. Guess it's back to the good'ol days of everyone drifting the same few dozen cars :lol:

To all those who are saying goodbye to online in pursuit of hybrid happiness, take lots of pictures, make lots of videos, and keep sharing all the awesome possibilities 👍
 
Highlandor
Rubbish...

I built my NON obligation GT series from a handful of friends to over 500 members..

We race all kinds of different cars and tracks, more so than most other sites. We still race the same classes for 2 years now (only changing specs owing to PD's updates)..

If guys miss a night, or 2 or even a month or 2, when they do come back they can still use the same cars and specs they previously did.

How many different websites are you a member of or have raced with? Try taking your blinkers off and spreading your wings a bit, you'll see how wrong you are....

It is lazy if people can't be bothered to look around and learn the common 'rules' that make quality, equalised online racing what it is - extremely good.

All games require an element of learning / working out, learning and working out quality online racing - how to have it and where to find it is no different.

If people can't be bothered, that's nothing to do with dedicaton, that's just being lazy...
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I love how you didn't actually respond to any of the reasons I said, but just repeated that it was wrong. If nothing else, it's wonderful that you have the large amounts of free time and energy to dedicate to your 500 person strong online series.

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And by the way, I have attempted several times to join racing series on GTP. I found that having to rearrange my schedule to play a game at a specific time rather than whether I actually wanted to play, then being left without any place to play when I did want to play, made it seem an awful lot more like work than a game.
 
Highlandor
If people can't be bothered, that's nothing to do with dedicaton, that's just being lazy...
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How so? PD can't make online fun and somehow that responsibility falls onto the shoulders of the gamers?

PD have shown us that they can make online decent. In GT5:P, there were actual events with a pre-set track, number of laps, and a restriction on which cars could be used. Needless to say, I could have fun much more easily in GT5:P than in GT5, despite the fact that GT5:P only had a limited number of tracks and cars.

I'm struggling to comprehend why PD didn't bring this over into GT5.
 
I don't think this argument is going anywhere. Some people don't have time in their schedule to put time into practicing combos/cars/tracks, organising events etc for a series, and so hopping into a room or open lobby for an hour or 2 at a time that suits them is what they really want. Some people do have the time and dedication to put into it, and so a good series will suit them better.

There's no point arguing about laziness or anything, its just personal preference and time etc.
 
ElementRacer
Westlake, ok back on track, so wish we had FPV"s. Funny thing is, in that Secret item thread is mentioned a FPV gift car ticket 0.o
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PD were give the data for FG Falcon (twice...they couldn't unzip it the first time!) in readyness for GT5.
We were told it will become available as a DLC, but 2 years later still nothing ?!?!

So they do have the data, maybe we will see Falcons in GT6? we can only wish!:sick:
 
I play online a lot just to have a good time, I'll most likely update. Now I just will not be able to have AS good a time as I once did.

I think I'm all done giving PD my money though. No GT6 for me. I think it's pretty childish all these people had to piss and moan for PD to ban "hackers." Get a life.


Anyway this update is total ******** and I imagine it won't be long until somebody finds a way around this patch.
 
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TokoTurismo
Wow that poll result sure beats those who aren't updating. Funny. Gotta keep those hybrids yeah? :lol:
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Way to be a **** about it.
Just like I said before, if this same thread was made on a diferent forum, the result could quite probably be the oposite.
There are milions of players who bought GT5, and it isn't 270 of them in a single forum who determine the actual number of players who will update and who won't. This number only serves as a small fraction for an estimation (not sure if correctly spelled).
 

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