Windows... 10?!?

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Don't think so, Ignorant means uneducated.

When you drive(meaning you have your license), we have people that drive on to train tracks or into lakes because a GPS "told them to"
That just seems stupid.

You're initial statement with you bolding parts of my post implies you meant those that do not know hotkeys are stupid.

My comment on navigation meant reading a basic map, or even recalling how streets are laid out, not those that drive into rivers because they blindly follow instructions.
 
I'm MCSE certified. I don't know what most of the hot keys are, except for task manager and CTRL+ALT+Delete. There's aero, the charm bar, etc.
 
I know most basic and a few Win key ones, I use most of these and dont need to know all of them, I even know some of the older cut, copy and paste ones.

Crtl+C for Copy
Ctrl+Ins for copy
Ctrl+X for Cut
Shift+Del for Cut
Ctrl+V for paste
Shift+Ins for paste
Ctrl+A for select All
Win key+P for screen selection
Win+Tab for 3D flip
Alt+ Tab for 2D flip
Ctrl+shift+Esc for task manager
Win key+T for Window selection
Ctrl+Alt+Del for lock window or what ever it is called(i forget)
Alt+F4 close window
 
Tucked in at the very end of the video that @terminator363 posted was something that really grabbed my attention -- multiple virtual desktops. Yeah I know there have been third party addons for this for quite some time, but all I'd looked at had some pretty rough edges and usually didn't integrate well; certainly not seamlessly. This is something us linux folks have been using for over a decade.

With regard to hotkeys, I don't recall seeing a reasonably comprehensive list of them since perhaps the Win3.x days or Win95 days (which redefined several of the Win3x hotkeys).
 
I couldn't care less about the name, really. Calling it Windows 10 might not make sense, but as long as it's actually any good...

I'm not quite impressed with what they've shown, though. I mean, okay, we "apps" act like regular programs on Win7 now - great. Even on a laptop with a touch screen, the whole "touch interface > all" design philosophy of Win8 was... stupid, to say the least. One can arrange with that, but going back to being a desktop friendly OS is something I can get behind. Slapping huge "live tiles" onto, well, everything certainly doesn't make an OS good. I can click a small desktop icon (or even smaller icons on my task bar) just fine with my mouse curser, thanks. Don't need live tiles that cover half the screen.

But, what's going to be the benefit of having 10 over 7? There's a benefit to switch from 8.1 to 10, sure - because you can get some of the stuff they've cut out from Win 7 back. So I'll do that for my laptop, most likely. But unless support stops for Win7, why would I adopt Windows 10? So I can slap pointless live tiles I don't want onto the stuff that works? Call be pesimistic, but I've got a feeling that it'll be more of a resource hog than Win7, to boot.

Oh well, I might as well download the preview, run it with a boot manager and try to get some feedback across. We'll see how it pans out.

Besides, nice avatar, @Azuremen . Had to play the album after seeing it 👍
 
I just watched that video, and when he talked about "snapping" apps to the edge of the screen and the app will make a suggestion about what part of the screen to fill, that seemed rather nice. Then he said you can have up to 4 apps snapped at once to fill the screen. Two apps would be side-by-side or over/under, three would be two quarter-screens and a half-screen, etc.

Having been doing this long enough to remember Windows 1.0, it struck me as funny that this behavior is EXACTLY like Windows 1.0!!!!! Application windows could not overlap in 1.0 and there was no desktop, so if one program was open, it filled the screen. If you opened two, they were side-by-side. You could have up to 4 programs open at once (which at the time was actually unheard of!) so that section where he demonstrated "snapping" took me back to 1986, and made me think that calling it Windows 10 might have just been an accidental shift of the decimal point. :)
 
Hotkeys are nothing more than basic.

If you actually use Windows. Or a computer. For the majority of the casual tablet market, whose experience with computing is limited to touchscreen devices... no... they are not. And it's not as applicable to the touchscreen experience. Calling up a virtual keyboard, then contriving to do a two-to-three-key combo, as opposed to... say... pressing the Home button to come up with a recent apps list or task manager... isn't quite as convenient.

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Actually... why the hell haven't Windows snapped into perfect tiles before now? It's a pain having your browser, VLC, word processor, picture browser and calculator all open at the same time... having to obsessively compulsively line up window edges for perfect alignment... :D :lol: Maybe it's just me!
 
It's a pain having your browser, VLC, word processor, picture browser and calculator all open at the same time... having to obsessively compulsively line up window edges for perfect alignment... :D :lol: Maybe it's just me!
I just have multiple screens. :p
 
Actually... why the hell haven't Windows snapped into perfect tiles before now? It's a pain having your browser, VLC, word processor, picture browser and calculator all open at the same time... having to obsessively compulsively line up window edges for perfect alignment... :D :lol: Maybe it's just me!

TB
I just have multiple screens. :p

Windows Key + Left or Right arrow snaps the window to that half to that half of the screen, even on multiple monitor setups. Otherwise you can just grab the top of the window and snap it to a side as well.
 
I just watched that video, and when he talked about "snapping" apps to the edge of the screen and the app will make a suggestion about what part of the screen to fill, that seemed rather nice. Then he said you can have up to 4 apps snapped at once to fill the screen. Two apps would be side-by-side or over/under, three would be two quarter-screens and a half-screen, etc.

Having been doing this long enough to remember Windows 1.0, it struck me as funny that this behavior is EXACTLY like Windows 1.0!!!!! Application windows could not overlap in 1.0 and there was no desktop, so if one program was open, it filled the screen. If you opened two, they were side-by-side. You could have up to 4 programs open at once (which at the time was actually unheard of!) so that section where he demonstrated "snapping" took me back to 1986, and made me think that calling it Windows 10 might have just been an accidental shift of the decimal point. :)


In Windows XP, you could hold down the shift key (I think) on the programs you had minimised but running on the taskbar and either cascade the windows selected or arrange the windows into horizontal view or vertical view. Or all in tiles. Was very useful. now I can't find that in Windows 7 at all. That was annoying
 
Right I toyed around with it last night in VMWare. Very unstable release from what I can gather. I had two crashes when I was installing the OS, crashes when I try to open the Windows Store amongst other things. So don't try to install this on a PC just yet is my advice.

The OS itself is practically identical to Windows 8.1 at this stage (VMWare even identifies the host OS as Windows 8!). The only differences I can muster out as of now is the removal of the Start Screen and the new windowed Metro apps. It's similarity with 8.1 means you can also expect the same fast boot times too, which is a massive plus in my book. The new start menu is also a massive plus, and an unexpected one. When I first saw it, I thought it would be rather clunky to use. However, it turns out that this is not the case at all. It is a mash up of the Windows 7 start menu with the Windows Phone 8.1 tiles (the tiles aren't really comparable to Windows 8.1 tiles as they can't be really large and protuding), meaning the tiles are smaller, think of them more of a 'larger' icon.

Aside from this, haven't toyed around with much else yet. It is an NT 6.4 build so it's one up from NT 6.3 that was used in 8.1. The Internet Explorer version is still IE11 too. Presumably IE12 is in development or the version included in Technical Preview is a early build of IE12 that still identifies itself as IE11. I will look deeper into this OS later tonight and feedback anything I see.
 
First experience. App syncing is better. I download an app on my Win 8.1 machine, it appears on the machine running Win 10. Themes sync now(not just desktop pictures, themes with a whole collection of pictures, but not all of them). Pretty sure this was present with 8.1.

Tried implementing the multi desktop feature into my normal daily workflow. It works great. I have one desktop open for Office apps, I have another open for my CCNP study related material, I have one more open for 3ds Max and Trace Pro, and one last one open for normal stuff like browsing. I love it thus far. When working from home, I don't have the option to use my multi monitor setup. I have to settle for my lappy's 1600x900 screen. The multi desktop feature really helps with segmenting.

Start menu, is start menu.

Ran into some minor beta issues. The taskbar won't stay to the set dimensions whenever I log out and log back in. Do not drag shortcuts to apps onto the start menu, you can't remove them (stuck there forever :().

I could not find any group policy objects that let you limit any access to the new features on the Local Policy menu. Guess they'll add them later, I suppose.

I still have allot of tinkering to do. I have yet to try the new Hyper V hypervisor, trying out SSTP and direct access, and messing with the image deployment wise (on MDT and the ADK).
 
Classic shell can be installed on it.
Once again MS is tricking people into making a MS account.
You cant unpin 2 actions near the start button(i hate when you cant do things like this)
No Aero Glass(some liked it), i cant see why one needs a good GPU to display alpha transparencies
 
IT BEGINS. If I can salvage my old laptop to a state that I'm happy with, I may just try and install the Technical Preview, and/or get it running on a VM.
 
Using the technical preview as my main os (i'm brave, i think) and liking it.

Has some bugs, but is too be expected from a pre-beta release.
 
Shame they cant release a service pack to take it from preview to beta then to RC1.
 
I want to know if there are any changes under the hood because all it seems is cosmetic and functionality differences so far... like is it going to be better with resources, more stable, boot quicker etc?
 
Seems like my Win7 installation is beginning to bog down :indiff: Granted, it's been almost two years since I installed it and I did very little maintenance, so it's my own fault, I suppose... Perfect excuse to run the preview, though. Didn't get around to installing yet, but I might do so tomorrow.

Are the Win8 drivers still compatible with the tech preview?
 
Dont install the preview as your main OS.

It is very buggy, some programs wont work and it only lasts so long, when the trial period expires you will need to reinstall, heck even going from this preview to a beta or even RC1 needs a fully clean install.
 
I had some problems installing Win10 to my old A100 Toshiba Satellite running XP. I just copied the ISO to a USB and set the USB as the boot drive but nothing happened (the BIOS does have an option for USB Flash Drives so that wasn't the problem). After trying a few times I gave up. I proceeded to burn the ISO onto a DVD-R using Nero but when I set the computer to boot from CD nothing happens once again. What's going on? I just need the ISO file to boot right?

Edit: I used PowerISO to make a bootable USB drive and nothing still.
 
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Check for mainboard updates.

If there is a Windows 8 compatibility update install it.

Windows 8 and later need Secure boot
 
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