Yet Another Great ad from Down Under...

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Couldn't resist posting this. :D
 
Jimmy Enslashay
That's quite offensive. Aboriginal people aren't just some novelty. Are you trying to say that Abroginal people should be dancing around entirely because you want them to?

No, I was making a point that the shot of the Aboriginals dancing around a fire is a little over the top...and I then related what I saw of Aboriginals when I was actually in Australia. My contention is that the video makes Aboriginals look like a novelty, when they should not be treated like this...
 
Anderton Prime
No, I was making a point that the shot of the Aboriginals dancing around a fire is a little over the top...and I then related what I saw of Aboriginals when I was actually in Australia. My contention is that the video makes Aboriginals look like a novelty, when they should not be treated like this...
Good. You added the words "for my benefit" at the end of your sentence, which made your post seem very different to what you were apparantly trying to say.
 
Anderton Prime
No, I was making a point that the shot of the Aboriginals dancing around a fire is a little over the top...and I then related what I saw of Aboriginals when I was actually in Australia. My contention is that the video makes Aboriginals look like a novelty, when they should not be treated like this...


You can acutally go and see them do that at shows and stuff. Plus Aboriginals who do live out in the middle of the bush still do all that 👍, just dont expect the city slicker ones to.
 
Anderton Prime
Wow, how absolutely incredibly racist. How do you feel about this trend? Is it a common attitude shared between Australians, or so-called "mates?" I guess you're a mate as long as you conform and act / dress / speak in the same manner as other Australians.

so your of the opinion that muslims in australia can do what they want, say what they want and act how they like without retribution then? how is being told to behave yourself or gtfo racist, tell me that.

ill tell you somethin for nothing. the police force just passed new laws that said indians can wear their beards long and muslim women can wear there robes and other ****. the australian government has many - many - downfalls, but racism isn't one of them
 
eliseracer
I just read that you can get up to 9 years for vandalizing state property in Australia. That is absolutely stupid.
Why is that exactly ?... If some schmuck vandalised my car / motorcycle / apartment / whatever, I'd WANT him in jail for 9 years.. And that is after he gets a well deserved beating with my baseball bat...
 
Flerbizky
Why is that exactly ?... If some schmuck vandalised my car / motorcycle / apartment / whatever, I'd WANT him in jail for 9 years.. And that is after he gets a well deserved beating with my baseball bat...

Because stealing 9 years of someone's life because they created art on faceless property is ludicrous, when there are far uglier public images on display that deface public property, which the government gets payed to have there.

Trust me, a hard slap on the wrist, some comunity service and a 1,500$ fine will stop a young graffiti artist.
 
Is the guy at the beginning holding a half-pint!? I thought you Aussies could drink!

AP
There are Japanese tourists EVERYWHERE.
Far Eastern tourists are everywhere. We get them over here aswell. You go to London and you'll see loads.

Kangaroos that live in the wild are not friendly or approachable; they can kill you with one well-placed kick.
They never played with or approached the Kangaroos. They showed them in no better a situation that lions lounging in the sun. Do you instantly think lions are friendly and approachable?


There are adverts that advertise Wales. On of them shows a young boy returning some change to some tourists who have just hiked ot the top of a mountain. Believe it or not, most young boys in Wales can't hike to the top of a mountain, neither can they do it running.
 
eliseracer
Because stealing 9 years of someone's life because they created art on faceless property is ludicrous, when there are far uglier public images on display that deface public property, which the government gets payed to have there.

Trust me, a hard slap on the wrist, some comunity service and a 1,500$ fine will stop a young graffiti artist.

I somewhat agree.. Not having english as my first language, I always get the word "vandalise" emphasized for some reason - and in my head, figure it as much worse than grafitti... And if we're talking about a young grafitti "artist" - You're absolutely right...
 
eliseracer
ecause stealing 9 years of someone's life because they created art on faceless property is ludicrous, when there are far uglier public images on display that deface public property, which the government gets payed to have there.

Trust me, a hard slap on the wrist, some comunity service and a 1,500$ fine will stop a young graffiti artist.
eliseracer
I just read that you can get up to 9 years for vandalizing state property in Australia. That is absolutely stupid.
Since when has vandalism only been about graffiting?

Vandalism can be going down the high street chucking bricks at shop windows.

Vandalism can be smashing up a historical building, like driving a JCB into a 300yr old building.
 
ExigeExcel
Since when has vandalism only been about graffiting?

Vandalism can be going down the high street chucking bricks at shop windows.

Vandalism can be smashing up a historical building, like driving a JCB into a 30 y old building.

You're also right.. - And in the last case - Just put the idiot away...
 
ExigeExcel
Since when has vandalism only been about graffiting?

Vandalism can be going down the high street chucking bricks at shop windows.

Vandalism can be smashing up a historical building, like driving a JCB into a 300yr old building.

Because being a painter is considered being a vandal. You are right in the reason that they would like to have the punishment dealt for an appropriate crime, like destroying historical material. You can create another preservation law for that, like many countries already have done. That is why it reads 'up to' 9 years. I'm not sure what the common sentencing is.
 
That video, and Anderton's response reminds me of the tourism videos of Arkansas. You can make just about anyplace look good in a short video. (not saying Australia isn't great, just pointing out a fact)

Oh, and the video did make Kangaroos look cuddly and as though natives would dance in the middle of the outback, and as though the beach and cities had nothing but attractive women and were constantly shooting fireworks and FREE BEER! It also made the weather look perfect and as though there was no trash or imperfect aspect of Australia... exactly what I would expect from a video designed to get you to take a trip there. It reallly borders on false advertising.
 
danoff
It reallly borders on false advertising.
How so? It's showing you the good aspects of Australia that you may come to like whilst visiting, and if you're gullible enough to believe that Australia is perfect from watching an advertisement, then that is entirely your fault. As has been stated multiple times in this thread previously, an advertisement for a country will show the positive aspects of it's subject, and attempt to entice you to visit there. Is there something really wrong with that?
eliseracer
Because being a painter is considered being a vandal.
Oh yeah, because painting consists of drawing images over the top of places in which they have not been asked to, nor are they allowed to.

"I need to practice my artwork."
"Oh, sure, just paint on top of this CityRail train or this person's fence."


I'm sure if any of these people wanted art on their property, they would have it organised legally to do so. Besides, I'm quite sure there are other ways for people to get into art and/or painting.

Sorry, getting a tad off-topic here.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
I'm sure if any of these people wanted art on their property, they would have it organised legally to do so. Besides, I'm quite sure there are other ways for people to get into art and/or painting.
I was thinking the same. Art is fine, it's great, but if you paint something on my building, I want you punished. Yes, I do think 9 years seems little harsh, but bottomline, you shouldn't be painting your "art work" on something that does not belong to you.

Jimmy Enslashay
Sorry, getting a tad off-topic here.
Me too. :D
 
I think we all know the difference between 'graffiti art' and just plain vandalism.

Most of it does not in anyway resemble art. A giant penis with the words 'Sux Dik' is not art. There is a place for art, and back of a fence, or a wall of a building is not it.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
How so? It's showing you the good aspects of Australia that you may come to like whilst visiting, and if you're gullible enough to believe that Australia is perfect from watching an advertisement, then that is entirely your fault. As has been stated multiple times in this thread previously, an advertisement for a country will show the positive aspects of it's subject, and attempt to entice you to visit there. Is there something really wrong with that?

I'm well aware, I mentioned that it my post. I don't need you to explain it to me when I'm obviously on top of it, thanks.

My point was that some of the things in that video come very close to lies. It's not like it's specific to Australia, tourism commericals from everywhere in the world do exactly the same thing, but they ALL come very close to lying, and you shouldn't be doing that in your commercial.

That's it, you don't have to argue with it. It's no big deal, it doesn't say anything bad about Australia or even that they did lie, only that it comes close.
 
eliseracer
That is all an erntirely different discussion. The point still is 9 years is what some people get for manslaughter.
The discussion is to do with the advertisement, if you read the thread title.

Though, I do agree that nine years imprisonment is harsh, if that sentence is given.
 
Elise racer can you tell me what UPTO 9 years means? It obviously depends on how serious the crime is.
Trust me graffiti teens dont get 9 years ;), they get a slap on a wrist a fine.

Its almost impossible for a criminal in Australia to get a maximum sentace, I'm certain most murderers get less than 10 years, and are out after like 7 - 8 on parol IF that.
 
ExigeExcel
Is the guy at the beginning holding a half-pint!? I thought you Aussies could drink!


It's called a scooner. It's what they drink over there. It's smaller than a pint but bigger than a half.

I think.
 
eliseracer
I just read that you can get up to 9 years for vandalizing state property in Australia. That is absolutely stupid.

bbq_sauce
apparently you can be charged with assault if you look at someone dirty, or in a way they don't like, in australia.


Ahaha Australia's legal system is not pretty bad in my opinion, if you vandalize speed or red light cameras you will get the book thrown at you, but we had a case in South Australia where a young adult shot another man in the eye with a 9mm Beretta while the victim was on early morning paper delivery's(victim survived) and the shooter received a suspended sentence and $100 fine (oddly no firearm charges either). There was a uproar about that.

As for assault charges for looking at someone dirty well I've never heard of that.

Small_Fryz
Its almost impossible for a criminal in Australia to get a maximum sentace, I'm certain most murderers get less than 10 years, and are out after like 7 - 8 on parol IF that.

Yep I wouldn't be surprised if many murderers (single murder) are out on parole after 5 years.
 
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