2011 Formula 1 Shell Belgian Grand Prix

[F1 fan]

And then we get one of his trademark radio messages. [insert name] just tried taking me off... That was deliberate".

How can you tell it was deliberate Lewis? Can you read people's minds? Can you read mine?

 

[Peter.]

You're either trolling, or you're grossly misinformed.

He's not grossly misinformed. Check this:

 

[shawnjets]

They still had unfinished business from Monaco

 

[Saidur_Ali]

And then we get one of his trademark radio messages. [insert name] just tried taking me off... That was deliberate".

How can you tell it was deliberate Lewis? Can you read people's minds? Can you read mine?

Like Vettel thinking Lewis gave him a puncture purposely and then joking it off.

Lewis did say in the interview that he does not know if it is deliberate or not after he had more time to think about what to say.

 

[Müle]

He's not grossly misinformed. Check this:

I already posted that...

 

[Anghammarad]

On a completely different subject. Who of the drivers do you think have their cars setup for a wet and who for a dry race?

 

[homeforsummer]

This is one thing I've noticed about Hamilton, even if it isn't his fault he would still rather slam into the other car and shout about it to prove a point rather than try and avoid the accident.

I really think he could have just slammed the brakes as he saw Maldonado closing in from the right hand side, they had already been fighting in the corner so it doesn't take a genius is figure out was was coming on the straight.

Totally, that sounds like an incredibly easy thing to do at racing speeds with a strip of grass and metal barrier to your left.

 

[F1 fan]

Like Vettel thinking Lewis gave him a puncture purposely and then joking it off.

Lewis did say in the interview that he does not know if it is deliberate or not after he had more time to think about what to say.

But the point is, he makes these little messages for Charlie Whiting's benefit. And it wouldn't be the first time gung ho Hamilton's over ambition gave someone a puncture. Or are you forgetting about Barrichello at Interlagos a few years ago.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

On a completely different subject. Who of the drivers do you think have their cars setup for a wet and who for a dry race?

Button said he was on a completely dry setup so looks like the McLarens are in good shape.

 

[C-ZETA]

Who of the drivers do you think have their cars setup for a wet and who for a dry race?

Knowing Toro Rosso's '07 and '08 approach (which worked awesomely) Alguarsuari's probably for wet setup. Which is...not good. It's supposed to be dry tomorrow. Although he did beat Alonso in the dry so I dunno. Maybe Alonso's got a wet setup?

 

[boiltheocean]

How can you tell it was deliberate Lewis? Can you read people's minds? Can you read mine?

It's not exactly a prime accident location during a race never-mind a red flag end of session cruising lap. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it was intentional.

I'm with Robin on the case of Hamilton waiting for a collision just because, he could of braked to avoid it.

 

[C-ZETA]

Or are you forgetting about Barrichello at Interlagos a few years ago.

...What did happen back then with him? The only thing I can remember with Barrichello at Interlagos is the number of faults he's suffered from there

 

[F1 fan]

I'm with Robin on the case of Hamilton waiting for a collision just because, he could of braked to avoid it.

Me too. That's why he can't claim innocence here. He could have easily slowed and just made Maldonado look stupid. Instead, it was bumper cars again. I've called him dangerous before and I stand by it.

...What did happen back then with him? The only thing I can remember with Barrichello at Interlagos is the number of faults he's suffered from there

Lewis overtook him but got very close. Shortly after, Barrichello had a puncture in one of the rear tyres, which was caused by contact with Hamilton's front wing. Same thing happened in Silverstone last year.

 

[Robin]

Totally, that sounds like an incredibly easy thing to do at racing speeds with a strip of grass and metal barrier to your left.

Yeah when your a racing driver in the top tier of motorsport and a world champion these things are very easy.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

But the point is, he makes these little messages for Charlie Whiting's benefit. And it wouldn't be the first time gung ho Hamilton's over ambition gave someone a puncture. Or are you forgetting about Barrichello at Interlagos a few years ago.

What does Vettel do it for then? For his own benefit?
Barrichello said he enjoyed racing with Lewis after that race I remember and did Hamilton get a penalty, the answer is no.

I know you think Hamilton should have been banned (At least temporarily) from the sport along time ago and if Vettel was in the same incident with Maldonado today, you might have been calling for a lifetime ban for Maldonado. Personally I don't have pure hatred towards any driver in the sport. The only way that will change if someone tries to crash into someone at top speeds deliberately and with force, a bit like some F1 2010 racers online.

Yeah when your a racing driver in the top tier of motorsport and a world champion these things are very easy.

Lewis was driving slow already, you don't expect someone to get alongside you and start to squeeze you off the road after the chequered flag. I think Lewis could have been a bit more gentle turning right but that also would have put him right up against the grass.

 

[F1 fan]

Totally, that sounds like an incredibly easy thing to do at racing speeds with a strip of grass and metal barrier to your left.

I'm failing to see your point here. Are you implying that it would be dangerous to slow suddenly? And if so, are you implying it would be more dangerous than making contact?

What does Vettel do it for then? For his own benefit?
Barrichello said he enjoyed racing with Lewis after that race I remember and did Hamilton get a penalty, the answer is no.

I know you think Hamilton should have been banned (At least temporarily) from the sport along time ago and if Vettel was in the same incident with Maldonado today, you might have been calling for a lifetime ban for Maldonado. Personally I don't have pure hatred towards any driver in the sport. The only way that will change if someone tries to crash into someone at top speeds deliberately and with force, a bit like some F1 2010 racers online.

Excuse me, but I'm not as biased as you think I am. I'm not calling for a lifetime ban for anyone, nor am I placing blame solely on one driver here. I have long hated Lewis' ego, and was actually glad when he showed people his true colours in Monaco.

EDIT2:

Lewis was driving slow already, you don't expect someone to get alongside you and start to squeeze you off the road after the chequered flag. I think Lewis could have been a bit more gentle turning right but that also would have put him right up against the grass.

You don't, but you'd expect a world champion to slow down and avoid it. It doesn't matter if he was driving slowly, surely slowing is the better option.

 

[Anghammarad]

Weather forecasts for tomorrow now says rain showers.

 

[C-ZETA]

Weather forecasts for tomorrow now says rain showers.

Oh well, that means Alonso might win this comfortably But we can't see the setups for ourselves, we have no idea who's done what and what's decided to make the forecast change to showers all of a sudden

 

[Anghammarad]

Oh well, that means Alonso might win this comfortably But we can't see the setups for ourselves, we have no idea who's done what and what's decided to make the forecast change to showers all of a sudden

It's almost certainly Ferrari who have fixed it so that it will rain tomorrow.

 

[C-ZETA]

It's almost certainly Ferrari who have fixed it so that it will rain tomorrow.

Or it could be the FIA Oops! I've made an insult to the FIA helping Ferrari again

Also...

I can't help but notice that Vettel seems to be becoming Nick Heidfeld. In protest of his replacement, probably

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Excuse me, but I'm not as biased as you think I am. I'm not calling for a lifetime ban for anyone, nor am I placing blame solely on one driver here. I have long hated Lewis' ego, and was actually glad when he showed people his true colours in Monaco.

Fair enough but my opinion is based on your post history. Vettel has shown different colours in the heat of the moment many times like the Webber incident but I don't think it is representative of him, do you? The same with Hamilton. The finger 'man' has a small ego?

Weather forecasts for tomorrow now says rain showers.

The weather forecast during qualifying was wrong, otherwise I doubt people would have ran the soft tyre . As you may know, never trust the weather until you see what it is like for yourselves.

 

[UK-Gamer]

From (at least) what I saw, it looked like Hamilton saw Maldonado heading in his direction, in which he made an adjustment to the right to avoid being squeezed into the barriers (look at how the road closed just a couple hundred metres away).

I don't think Maldonado meant to plow into him as it could've had side affects on the Williams, personally I think Maldonado wanted to give Hami a little 'kiss' the same Hami gave to him at the hairpin. I think Hami's little weave made the incident worse than it could've been, either way though, unsporting behaviour from Maldo.

If they have issues, they should sort it out off the race track (which they will do in the stewards office ).

 

[SuperSic]

He is a bit rusty. Still, I'd be surprised if he finishes anywhere near or in the top ten. If anything, I'd expect a DNF.

How do you like his P7 on Q? Surprised?

 

[Anghammarad]

I'm not so sure Ferrari have gone for a wet setup for Alonso and a dry for Massa. A more logical choice would have been the oother way around what with the forecasts available when quali started. I just think that Alonso made a very poor qualifying session.

Oh, and the performer of the day is obviously Senna

 

[Saidur_Ali]

How do you like his P7 on Q? Surprised?

I'm impressed he hold his nerve especially with the lack of running. He did well in the the practice session last race too. He has had less than an easy road to F1 due to stopping racing for a while so there might be a lot of that Senna talent in him and he is proving that on a drivers circuit. It will be interesting to see if his race pace bests Petrov by a good margin and I would happy to see that.

 

[F1 fan]

Fair enough but my opinion is based on your post history. Vettel has shown different colours in the heat of the moment many times like the Webber incident but I don't think it is representative of him, do you? The same with Hamilton. The finger 'man' has a small ego?

Everyone has an ego. Lewis' is growing out of control. Istanbul 2010 was an accident, today was deliberate.

How do you like his P7 on Q? Surprised?

He has been impressive, but he has no experience of the tyres. I expect him to fade like Maldonado has done after qualifying strongly. I may be wrong. He has some speed, but lets not forget he is in the fourth of fifth best car. Tomorrow will tell.

 

[Peter.]

Here's a nice, quick diagram for you guys

Maldonado intentionally cut-off Hamilton and drove right into his side-pod.

That was on an in-lap, during qualifying, and should be AT LEAST a 1-race ban.

Do you really expect us to judge the incident off of some coloured lines you drew from your mind as your assumption of the incident?

 

[Müle]

Everyone has an ego. Lewis' is growing out of control. Istanbul 2010 was an accident, today was deliberate.

Please, just stop. You're just another one of these anti-hamilton people who find fault for him in every little thing he does. Nowhere did Hamilton deliberately hit Maldonado.

 

[UK-Gamer]

Everyone has an ego. Lewis' is growing out of control. Istanbul 2010 was an accident, today was deliberate.

Question we've gotta ask is, why was it deliberate? It didn't cost him pole or anything... but for Maldo, it screwed his lap so....

 

[C-ZETA]

Please, just stop.

He won't. Check the other threads of GP's through the years, and you'll see what I mean.

Question we've gotta ask is, why was it deliberate? It didn't cost him pole or anything... but for Maldo, it screwed his lap so....

His lap was dead before the first contact. Barrichello was being held up by Kovalainen, which in turn forced Maldonado into a bit of a hold up. Hamilton went for a pass, and you wouldn't blame him with a car that is much much faster, and hit Maldonado. His lap was already not at the best it could have been before the first incident.