2012 Formula One Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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Vettel drove an excellent second half of a race.

But he was very, very lucky that his horrible first half didn't take him out of the race completely.

F1 fan
Grosjean isn't really a concern because Sebastian was already ahead of him by the time the Webber/Grosjean/Perez incident happened.
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Romain had a fair bit of bad luck, being treated like a ten pin at the start. Very lucky to have continued after that. Excluding all bargeboard antics, he would have been in a position where Vettel would have had a hard time overtaking him, otherwise. I wonder if he'd have rolled over quite so easily when Vettel overtook him (both times) :lol: if he hadn't had any incidents prior.
 
Can't help but think that if Grosjean had of hit Senna there would be a lot more hate and calls for a ban...
 
Love the sound quality of that snippet Q&A from Domenicali, just on the BBC red button, has a feel of future nostalgia documentary feel for sure.

:lol: Eddie J, quite the profanitist IRL.
 
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It speaks volumes about Vettel's ability to pass top runners that he needed 5+ laps to overtake Button who was:

1. On older tyres
2. On the hard compund
3. In a slower car
4. Having a so so day.

BTW,who was it of the mid runners who was told to let Vettel pass because he seemed so stressed out that it was safer just to yield one position rather than risk having Vettel taking both out?
 
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Half the teams have won a race and a third of the drivers have won a race and we've still got two to go.

Very eventful, disappointed that Lewis had issues, he's been so, so quick this weekend. Kimi drove well as did Alonso, most of the rest of the field didn't.

Also, race track owners, y u no have road sweeper!
 
fps_christian
A race at Abu Dhabi, a track which is so poo, I would never have thought that there would be such an exciting race there today. One of the better races this season. Action going on all throughout the race.

Edit: Oh, so now **** is also censored? Together with ****? Well, better edit my text to make it more family friendly.
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Just like Valencia. 👍 A lot of overtakes again here for a track that supposedly is a dog for overtaking.
 
Famine
Now go read the whole post again, rather than putting size tags around a bit of it for no good reason.

Vettel drove into another car and damaged his front wing. He drove into trackside furniture, blaming another driver for it in a tantrum he had over the radio, and damaged his front wing more. He was so frustrated behind another driver that he left the track completely to overtake them, having to give the place back.
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So you think Alonso would have done better? :D
Besides everyone knows Seb's agressive...

Famine
Do you deny these things occurred?
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No. I don't see the point of this retorical question here...

Famine
Do you think that they are "excellent" or "good" driving?
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No but at leat it was intertaining... The rest of the race was dull. It reminded me of the '90 F1 :D
And I like when drivers drive on the limit... But we all you like to be Mr :grumpy: paints "know it all"... So I'll just let you be...
But the answer to that question lies only in ones personal opinion :)

Famine
penis
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No need to be vulgar. By the way that should be censored... Since you guys like censoring and infracting people over stupidities :sly:

Famine
Then you should probably read more carefully and not wade into arguments for no reason and chuck insults around.
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Cut him some slack man, go learn 2 other languages other then the easiest one on the planet and then we will see how you do :)

Almost forgot :
In your face Alonso
Goooo Vet :)​
 
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The driving standard in this race was appalling. We need more drivers like Fernando, Jenson and Kimi.

Anyone still think Hamilton did the wrong decision for next year? His driving this year is up there with Alonso, and arguably, this should have been his title.

I don't like DRS, but I think FIA did an exceptional job with the length and placement of DRS zones. Almost all overtakes had a fight during the braking zone.
Anghammarad
BTW,who was it of the mid runners who was told to let Vettel pass because he seemed so stressed out that it was safer just to yield one position rather than risk having Vettel taking both out?
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Paul di Resta.

EDIT: I'm extremely happy that I couldn't watch this race on the BBC today, because I am certain I would've gone deaf by now because of Ben Edwards screaming (I assume.).
 
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All I have to say is that... One needs to be in a good position through their own skilled means, before they could actually make use of a little extra luck to propel himself further.

For example, there's not much point being that lucky to have a fellow championship contender taken out, only to score little to none points to make the most of the opportunity.

Vettel (for Spa and Abu Dhabi) and Alonso for most races this season has been able to make it this far due to being able to capitalise on opportunities presented to them by others' misfortunes. Simple. There's no such thing as luck given in a silver platter to a person just like that...

Mclaren failed to do so this season, with persistent problems they failed to resolve this season. That's why Hamilton, Button and their team are so far behind.

JediRage
Really pleased for Raikkonen and Vettel (and I hope Red Bull wrap up both championships soon).
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Yeah agreed, feel the same here too. I'm rooting for Vettel to clinch the championship, now that the Iceman's clearly out of contention. Hopefully Kimi would be able to emerge even stronger next season. :)

Even though I'll also have to admit, Alonso has done brilliantly to reach this point in the championship. May the best driver win :sly:👍
 
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Centura
The driving standard in this race was appalling. We need more drivers like Fernando, Jenson and Kimi.

Anyone still think Hamilton did the wrong decision for next year? His driving this year is up there with Alonso, and arguably, this should have been his title.

I don't like DRS, but I think FIA did an exceptional job with the length and placement of DRS zones. Almost all overtakes had a fight during the braking zone.

Paul di Resta.

EDIT: I'm extremely happy that I couldn't watch this race on the BBC today, because I am certain I would've gone deaf by now because of Ben Edwards screaming (I assume.).
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If Mercedes can give him a decent car that has no mechanical failures all year like Alonso's and Kimi's then I'm happy. Regarding the BBC, I can't believe Gary Anderson worked at such a high level in F1, some of the things he comes out with. :)
 
Anghammarad
That's pretty decent of you considering that you in that case are rooting for the guy who will finish second. :D
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Quoting Kimi:"Later we'd have to see how it goes then." :lol:

Actually, I think both drivers are really championship material. True legends of this era, along with Raikkonen, Button, Hamilton, Schumacher etc.
 
JediRage
Really pleased for Raikkonen and Vettel (and I hope Red Bull wrap up both championships soon).
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👍

I'm very very surprised what Vettel has accomplished. He was a man on a mission, for starting way in the back and coming on podium..? That's champion material there.

Although for the most boring track, it provided probably the best modern F1 race in the last decade.
 
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So you think Alonso would have done better? :D
Besides everyone knows Seb's agressive...
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Agressive? Don't you mean clumsy, lazy, and immature?

I do believe that Alonso would have done better, because Alonso wouldn't crash into everything that moves (and a few things that don't), and plus, Alonso has much better racecraft than Vettel.

To sum up Vettel's race, it was pretty much Crash, Crash, safety car to the rescue, walk past much slower cars(i'm talking Caterhams and Marussia's here), be let past by Torro Rosso's, inherit positions, finally pass Button with much fresher tyres, podium.
 
Agreed... They have done a brilliant job in the DRS zones for this race, maximum entertainment in overtaking battles throughout the race.

Maybe with the exception of Button perhaps, who seriously (and oddly) lacked straight line speed to overtake Alonso :(

Apart from that, everything else has been brilliant for this race 👍

Peter.
Agressive? Don't you mean clumsy, lazy, and immature?

I do believe that Alonso would have done better, because Alonso wouldn't crash into everything that moves (and a few things that don't), and plus, Alonso has much better racecraft than Vettel.

To sum up Vettel's race, it was pretty much Crash, Crash, safety car to the rescue, walk past much slower cars(i'm talking Caterhams and Marussia's here), be let past by Torro Rosso's, inherit positions, finally pass Button with much fresher tyres, podium.
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Wow, so you think him jumping from dead last to 3rd was messy, horrible, lazy and due to pure luck.

Do you simply think that one simply cruises cleanly to jump so many places? No, you have to push like crazy, obviously one's bound to be a bit rough and messy when they do so.

What high expectations, I'm sure you can do a better job, especially since you have such demand for pure perfection...

Seriously, take a chill pill.
 
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Kimi in the same car would have done it without touching anyone or ever be in trouble.
 
Peter.
I do believe that Alonso would have done better, because Alonso wouldn't crash into everything that moves (and a few things that don't), and plus, Alonso has much better racecraft than Vettel.
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Well, duh. I wouldn't except anything else considering Alonso have been in F1 for seven years (+/- 1) longer than Vettel.

It's not a coincidence that Fernando, Jenson and Kimi, the most experienced drivers on the grid, have the best race craft.

I think a lot of people forget how young Vettel are. He's incredibly mature for his age, and I do agree his race craft isn't there, even for his age, but it can only get better. Seriously, compare the Vettel of '09 and '10 to the Vettel of '12. It's a huge difference.
 
Centura
I think a lot of people forget how young Vettel are. He's incredibly mature for his age, and I do agree his race craft isn't there, even for his age, but it can only get better.
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Yes, Alonso was also quite aggressive and sloppy when he was younger. Hopefully Vettel can mature into an excellent racer as well as hotlapper.
 
Anghammarad
Yes, Alonso was also quite aggressive and sloppy when he was younger. Hopefully Vettel can mature into an excellent racer as well as hotlapper.
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I recently watched highlights of most races from 2010 and I thought Alonso looked really, for lack of a better word, aggressive in the first half of 2010. In the second half of 2010, his driving style changed in to the way we are used to today. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I got.
 
Anghammarad
Kimi in the same car would have done it without touching anyone or ever be in trouble.
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He would have ended up with a one-stopper and be relatively slow on the harder compound. He then likely would have been taken out by Senna, Perez, Webber, Massa, or maybe even his teammate Grosjean who all drove like a tool today. Vettel anticipated that and came up with the ideal strategy :sly:

Seriously though, Vettel drove very well today. He was really lucky with the safety cars, but you still need to drive like you are in a sprint race to be able to finish on the podium from where he started the race. His pass on Button was pure class, a fine piece of racecraft from both Vettel and Button.

Driver of the day for me is Kimi. Perfect start, no mistakes, right on top of it when the safety car went in and he kept his cool at the last few laps when Alonso was slowly closing the gap. Really thrilled to see him win again 👍

This was really the most exciting race in years, loved every minute of it. Vettel and Alonso both show they are true champions, by delivering when it matters most (at the end of the season). May the best man win!
 

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