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This chick has better talent and is more deserving than Danica..

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I'm hoping you're not serious.
 
Women with notably more talent than Danica Patrick currently in competition and where:
Simona de Silvestro -- IndyCar, Formula E
Katherine Legge -- IndyCar, United SportsCar Championship
Beitske Visser -- Formula V8 3.5
Tatiana Calderon -- Formula 3, Pro Mazda
Sarah Cornett-Ching -- ARCA
Rahal Frey -- ADAC GT Masters, DTM
Natacha Gachnang -- Formula 2, Le Mans
Christina Nielsen -- United SportsCar Championship
Sabine Schmitz -- Do I need to?
Kayli Barker -- NASCAR Super Stock Championship
Keiko Ihara -- WEC, Asian Le Mans Series
 
Women with notably more talent than Danica Patrick currently in competition and where:
Simona de Silvestro -- IndyCar, Formula E
Katherine Legge -- IndyCar, United SportsCar Championship
Beitske Visser -- Formula V8 3.5
Tatiana Calderon -- Formula 3, Pro Mazda
Sarah Cornett-Ching -- ARCA
Rahal Frey -- ADAC GT Masters, DTM
Natacha Gachnang -- Formula 2, Le Mans
Christina Nielsen -- United SportsCar Championship
Sabine Schmitz -- Do I need to?
Kayli Barker -- NASCAR Super Stock Championship
Keiko Ihara -- WEC, Asian Le Mans Series
I'm kind of surprised you didn't put in Erica Enders-Stevens in since she's a 2 time NHRA Pro Stock Champion.
 
I'm kind of surprised you didn't put in Erica Enders-Stevens in since she's a 2 time NHRA Pro Stock Champion.
I didn't include drag racing into the list, out of my personal reservations of combining circuit racing over moving in a straight line.
 
Watching Truck Series practice. Rico Abrew.

I'm pretty sure that's not how his name is pronounced, but I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from a bunch of white southerners.
What the 🤬 does race have to do with it? I'd like to hear a rational argument if there is one.
 
Why does that matter?

Because, there's been quite a bit of criticism aimed at other drivers deemed undeserving of their rides. The Roush drivers come to mind as popular targets.

I was merely asking if you read this thread as there's quite a bit of non-Danica related bashing.

I'm guessing you think I don't read it at all because this is the first you have heard from me in awhile. Newsflash though, I read it every day....beginning on the first day this thread was created. Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't read....very wrong assumption on your part.

Ah yes, assumptions, lets talk about those for a second.

First, you throw out the assumption that anybody that is criticizing Danica must be sexist.

Than, you assume that my question must be some sort of insult instead of a genuine question.

So yeah, pot meet kettle and all that.
 
And, just to add to your stats that you forgot to include, she did finish 24th last year, 8 spots ahead of drivers who raced in the same number of races.

In a car totally equivalent to that of Harvick (23 top 5 finishes) and Kurt Busch (21 top 10 finishes), she managed to finish 38 points behind Casey Mears in the final standings.

She had two top 10 finishes in those 36 starts in Hendrick-powered equipment, with the best engineers and pit crews that sponsor money can buy.

Yeah, she beat some other guys that also ran every race, but most of those guys were driving for Roush, FRM, HScott, or BK Racing.

The most impressive name she beat was Tony Stewart, but he's been a hollow shell of his former self for years now.

She gets all of the flak because she garners so much attention, for so little actual results. She is in top notch equipment because her good looks sell sponsorship, while legitimately better drivers continually flounder in bottom tier Cup cars, or get shuffled back to the Xfinity series.
 
In a car totally equivalent to that of Harvick (23 top 5 finishes) and Kurt Busch (21 top 10 finishes), she managed to finish 38 points behind Casey Mears in the final standings.

She had two top 10 finishes in those 36 starts in Hendrick-powered equipment, with the best engineers and pit crews that sponsor money can buy.

Yeah, she beat some other guys that also ran every race, but most of those guys were driving for Roush, FRM, HScott, or BK Racing.

The most impressive name she beat was Tony Stewart, but he's been a hollow shell of his former self for years now.

She gets all of the flak because she garners so much attention, for so little actual results. She is in top notch equipment because her good looks sell sponsorship, while legitimately better drivers continually flounder in bottom tier Cup cars, or get shuffled back to the Xfinity series.
I'll add on to this with a little bit of my two cents thrown in as well. Most of the same stuff also applies to Paul Menard and JWT, and most us thread regulars including yourself and I know how much we tend to rip (and most of the time, rightly so) JWT. Once they both became more competitive (or in JWT's case, "Competitive"), the stigma for Menard in particular began to wear off.

JWT still has it because while both he and Menard have won races and became more consistent over the years, he still is notorious for destroying race vehicles like wildfire. If Danica improved and shown better results and especially didn't wreck cars often, she wouldn't get the flak that she gets now. I don't mean minor improvements- she's in a full tilt Hendrick car, and with that type of piece, she deservedly does have lofty expectations to live up to. Even Kasey Khane gets flak from a lot of people (but from what I've seen on GTP, not so much here) for his performance in a Hendrick car, and he has been doing better than her. One can only imagine the hell that would be rained upon Dale Jr. if he drove like Danica. He's already a firestorm as is with his name. Now granted, her being in that car also probably brought Tony and Gene enough money to fund Kurt's car out of pocket (or more specifically, out of Gene's pocket), but his performances have backed up the expenditure. If anyone other than Danica was in that seat, I would be inclined to believe that they would have been released by now with how she has performed.
 
I'll add on to this with a little bit of my two cents thrown in as well. Most of the same stuff also applies to Paul Menard and JWT, and most us thread regulars including yourself and I know how much we tend to rip (and most of the time, rightly so) JWT. Once they both became more competitive (or in JWT's case, "Competitive"), the stigma for Menard in particular began to wear off.

JWT still has it because while both he and Menard have won races and became more consistent over the years, he still is notorious for destroying race vehicles like wildfire. If Danica improved and shown better results and especially didn't wreck cars often, she wouldn't get the flak that she gets now. I don't mean minor improvements- she's in a full tilt Hendrick car, and with that type of piece, she deservedly does have lofty expectations to live up to. Even Kasey Khane gets flak from a lot of people (but from what I've seen on GTP, not so much here) for his performance in a Hendrick car, and he has been doing better than her. One can only imagine the hell that would be rained upon Dale Jr. if he drove like Danica. He's already a firestorm as is with his name. Now granted, her being in that car also probably brought Tony and Gene enough money to fund Kurt's car out of pocket (or more specifically, out of Gene's pocket), but his performances have backed up the expenditure. If anyone other than Danica was in that seat, I would be inclined to believe that they would have been released by now with how she has performed.

Minus the wrecking, that more or less was Dale Jr from 2008 to 2010
 
Saw this comparison on Reddit, Jr. did way better and even got a top 10 points finish in that time

I'm just saying that he basically DID get massive flack for his performance while driving the same equipment that was walking away from the field most of the time.(which probably wasn't helped by the fact that he started off with a win in the shootout, then a win in the 125s only to follow those up with nothing else). That said, it is funny to note that even his slumps in the COT were better results then Danica's results as a whole.
 
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Should be Ty this weekend, Vickers next, and then Ty for the two weekends after that. They said Ty was going to be in the 14 for 3 of the next 4 races after Daytona.
 
Women with notably more talent than Danica Patrick currently in competition and where:
Simona de Silvestro -- IndyCar, Formula E
Katherine Legge -- IndyCar, United SportsCar Championship
Beitske Visser -- Formula V8 3.5
Tatiana Calderon -- Formula 3, Pro Mazda
Sarah Cornett-Ching -- ARCA
Rahal Frey -- ADAC GT Masters, DTM
Natacha Gachnang -- Formula 2, Le Mans
Christina Nielsen -- United SportsCar Championship
Sabine Schmitz -- Do I need to?
Kayli Barker -- NASCAR Super Stock Championship
Keiko Ihara -- WEC, Asian Le Mans Series
Add Ramona Karlson (sp?) -- FIA World Rallycross (there is actually an ever-increasing amount of female drivers in Rallycross.)
The Force sisters, in fact, any woman with that name it seems
Becky McDonough, Debra Micelli (Better known as Madusa), Marilyn Chandler, Rosalee Ramer, Candace and Courtney Jolly, Nicole Johnson--Monster Trucks/Monster Jam
 
This chick has better talent and is more deserving than Danica..

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Who is that?

And on a side note, did you know only 39 cars are entered for the Atlanta race this Sunday?

And we need a Charter system why again? Because $$$.
 
Who is that?

And on a side note, did you know only 39 cars are entered for the Atlanta race this Sunday?

And we need a Charter system why again? Because $$$.
The charter system is most likely not the only reason why there are only 39 cars entered.
 
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