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Failure doesn't even begin to describe it. Simply, when you are basically taking old Zellers stores (Which weren't that great to begin with, and they were under the umbrella of Canada's largest shopping empire in HBC) and populating it with the same garbage, barely stocking them, and not even extending the same savings Canadians could get going into the US and shopping at Target stores there, it was bad.

This article dos a good job of setting up why Target failed here: http://www.canadianbusiness.com/the-last-days-of-target-canada/
Yikes... just reading the part about all the logistical nightmares before the launch date was scarier than any horror movie I've seen in the last ten years. :scared:
 
The Dingers ride for Darlington
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Kyle Busch wins it! Now everybody can shut up about when he will get a win.

Also his left rear wheel was missing a lug nut so that'll be a fine.
 
Well what do you know, finally a driver I want to win wins when I actually see it :lol:

Still not sold on this stage racing but this format of qualifying and race in the same day is interesting, didn't even know they were doing that until today.

Will actually tune in for Next week at the Glen from the start because road curs racin' and despite this silly gimmick, it actually produces great racing.
 
Any of you guys think a surprise darkhorse driver will win this week i.e AJ Allmendinger or Daniel Suarez? Or will Joey Logano or Kyle Busch capture a win. Because both of those guys have run well at the Glen.
 
Any of you guys think a surprise darkhorse driver will win this week i.e AJ Allmendinger or Daniel Suarez? Or will Joey Logano or Kyle Busch capture a win. Because both of those guys have run well at the Glen.

While I don't doubt Kyle could be fast as he's been a lot this season, I do think AJ has his best shot here as always (Plus, he has won here before). JTG pretty much always circle this on the calender knowing the skillset of their driver so I expect him to be one of the ones in contention. Joey I'm not sure, he's been good here in Xfinity cars (even in a Gibbs car), but I never have seen him translate it to Cup so I'm not sure. As for Suarez, he has some experience here in Xfinity from last year so this is one track he should have some familiarity, but he's got more power to stop and turn.
 
Via Jayski, 2018 rules will allow Cup drivers 7 Xfinity starts and 5 Truck starts, with none allowed in Dash 4 Cash events, the Xfinity regular season finale and the entire playoffs, or the Truck regular season finale and the entire playoffs.

It's getting there.
 
Via Jayski, 2018 rules will allow Cup drivers 7 Xfinity starts and 5 Truck starts, with none allowed in Dash 4 Cash events, the Xfinity regular season finale and the entire playoffs, or the Truck regular season finale and the entire playoffs.

It's getting there.

Oh no. What are people going to complain about now?
 
Oh no. What are people going to complain about now?
Don't worry, whenever Kurt Busch shows up the Internet will find a reason to complain. If he hadn't bushwhacked race X driver Y would have made the cut this year, the TV coverage focuses on him too much and that's why other teams can't get sponsors, NASCAR used their weather machine to end the race early to make sure he got the win, and so on.
 
SHR will not renew Kurt Busch's contract in 2018. Kenseth to the 41?

http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/08/01/kurt-buschs-contract-wont-be-renewed-by-stewart-haas-racing/

Anyone catch the "No. 41 Chevrolet driver" lol

Here's my prediction:
-SHR shutters the 41 team and sells its charter to pay some bills
-The Monster sponsorship moves to Bowyer and the 14 to fill that funding gap
-Danica retires (to become Mrs. Stenhouse and start a family or whatever)
-Kenseth takes over the 10 (with Gibson on the pit box) on a one-year deal to keep the seat warm for Custer when he's (hopefully) ready to move up in '19
 


I'm assuming it was just a long negotiation process, and they took some extra time to work out the details. Sounds like he's stay at SHR for the time being.
 
Could be he also decided to hold off and think about his future for a bit before committing, like Junior did. Kurt's had his bell rung more than couple times over his career too.
 
Via Jayski, 2018 rules will allow Cup drivers 7 Xfinity starts and 5 Truck starts, with none allowed in Dash 4 Cash events, the Xfinity regular season finale and the entire playoffs, or the Truck regular season finale and the entire playoffs.

It's getting there.

In other words, the Kyle Busch Rule because Lets be honest: People have a problem with mostly Kyle Busch doing this because I notice this complaint happens FAR more then it does when Brad, Joey, Denny, Kevin, Kyle (Larson) does). I would like to point 2 issues:

- You know who brings those big sponsors to those lower series (apart from Sons using their dad's money)? Cup Drivers. You know who leans on those big successes to make sure their own teams stay afloat because of those overly demanding sponsors? Cup Drivers. You know who managed to help William Byron, Eric Jones, Tyler Reddick and some others up the later? Cup Drivers. NASCAR has been so crappy at actually encouraging new talent, its taken Keselowski and Busch (and Earnhardt Jr let it be said) to actually try and bring drivers up and only now has NASCAR decided to make these limitations all because "waaaa, darn Cuppies" in a series that only now has drivers actually coming up like they are supposed to (as opposed to that time where Cup teams just picked up whoever got a win with little to no preparation, although JGR's was more of a forced hand due to a situation they didn't anticipate, which has once again happened again this year and has given use Daniel Suarez). Yes I get people want the series regulars to get more attention but apart from literally every driver that is in a Cup team in the series (with a few exceptions), who even has a shot to win anyway ( assuming they aren't another Danica Patrick, who can't do scratch no matter what ride they get). Also (and believe me, I hate this a lot myself as proven by my disdain for Reed), this is sadly a money driven sport and I guarantee the less Cup drivers you have, the least amount of money that series will have (because frankly, Corporate America does not want to spend on a young driver) and more annoyingly, as I've already witnessed with Darrell Wallace Jr, less good seats for upcoming drivers. . Its even more affecting in the truck Series because those very same drivers hopping in most of the time OWN those teams and their appearance more or less finances their teams because guess who sponsors want more so then some unknown kid? Cup drivers. Its worth repeating the finance part because even though he hasn't made anywhere near as many starts, Even Dale Jr (A multiple time most popular driver and son of you know who) has had to that just for Taxslayer or any of his sponsors to have any reason in staying on his Xfinity team.

And that ends this Great Wall of Text (which won't have nearly as much recognition as that wall in China :lol:)

- Its worth bringing up once again that Cup teams tend to be multi-car efforts so guess what? Its time to be Oprah and give everyone a Xfinity race. For example:

JGR:

Kyle Busch - 7 races (18)

Denny Hamlin - 7 races (20)

Daniel Suarez - 22 races (18)

Eric Jones - 22 races (20)


Team Penske:

Brad Keseloski - 7 races (22)

Joey Logano - 7 races (4 in the 22, 3 in the 12)

Ryan Blaney - 22 races ( 11 in the 22, 11 in the 12)

RCR:

Austin Dillon - 20 races (2)

Ty Dillon - 19 races (10 in the 2, 9 in the 33)



and just for fun

CGR:

Kyle Larson - 22 races

Jamie Mcmurray - 7 races


I think you basically can see where I'm going with this. Just looking at the example for JGR, that rule is useless because JGR could effectively cover over half the schedule with Jones and Suarez since neither are affected for another 4 years. Likewise, Penske could easily cover almost the whole season with its three drivers. Even a two car effort like Chip can pull this off since Larson still isn't affected for another year.
 
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