Anybody else bored out of the game?

[DaBomm4]

What I'd like to see is a championship in each class. 5 or 6 races (edit: 8-15 would probably be better. Each championship would be like an entire season), each race at least 50 km in length, with damage, fuel consumption and tyre wear.

I started the series in 2012 with GT5 and when i read that it included fuel consumption and tire wear, i figured it would have come into effect at about the third level in the career (can't remember what it was called right now) and feel that they should have included it in the iB events also.

 

[sparkytooth]

I still can't see any sources.

This exact website covered the entire launch event in Ronda, where Kaz was promising "Massive" updates in January.

You want a source, check the news page.

 

[eran0004]

This exact website covered the entire launch event in Ronda, where Kaz was promising "Massive" updates in January.

You want a source, check the news page.

He said:

“We do already have a big update coming in December, and in January there will probably be two big updates. And that’s because there’s a lot of things, such as the unveiling of new cars, which we have no control over.”

https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-gt6-launch-interview/

No mention of community features.

So if you've got a source, please share it.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'm wondering if it was released in a hurry as a tactic against Forza.

Yeah, who also released a half finished game missing TONS of content.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Yes. It's called eBay.

Exactly. If you are no longer enjoying a game, sell it to someone that can enjoy it.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Yeah, who also released a half finished game missing TONS of content.

Only one of the games promised a bunch of features only to ship the retail copy without them, and left it at a vague "coming in a future update" status. Not quite the same - to say nothing of the difference between launching on new hardware, and simply updating an existing title on the same platform.

 

[wutang4ever]

Many of you have made valid points of the shortcoming of GT6, I did not get a ps3 and GT5 until years after the release so I cannot compare the states of the two games at this point after their release. My biggest gripes with GT5 was the screen tearing and the loading times, both of those issues were cleaned up quite a bit in GT6 from my experiences.

The seasonal events have been quite a let down so far, it costs more to buy and build the car to get a gold trophy than the actual payout of the event that you can only get the payout once. Online is a disaster if you are trying to just do a quick few races.

I will say for the most part I love GT6, but I am at a point where I have to get really creative to keep enjoying it. I try not to compare it to Forza 4, but there is just so much they got right with that game that keeps me coming back years after release. We can only hope that PD takes some hints and actually delivers in the near future.

 

[DaBomm4]

The seasonal events have been quite a let down so far, it costs more to buy and build the car to get a gold trophy than the actual payout of the event that you can only get the payout once.

Most of the seasonals are prize cars or cars needed for something during the career mode. I agree that it has been a let down that they have not released any seasonal race events yet, but I and hoping that they will release some once GT5 seasonals are done with.

 

[Boone]

tree'd

 

[Lawndart]

To put it bluntly, the more successful business strategy for PD would have been to simply add the new physics, cars, and tracks. Along with the new "spread sheet events" to GT 5...

Then rebrand it GT 5.9 "the road to the future" (insert your best marketing line here)...

Do a new box and have both a retail and digital version.

Then promise a new track creator and other gimmicks like gps etc.

(Sorry, but the new menu is lousy despite it being faster and no one buys a game for the menu... A more streamlined GT 5 GUI would have been far better.)

Think about this for a sec, b spec would be there, some AI that can handle standing starts, triple screen, 3D, online community already established, museum cards, shuffle, weekly seasonals, etc. etc.

GT 6 has only added static content and a pared back engine intended for GT 7... GT 6 does not meet the criteria of a full version, its in every way less than GT 5, and for those that look back at GT 5 and say be patient? Then why the hell would we buy GT 6 on day one? You would think pd learned from that... We don't buy games for their potential. Least I would have lost my own career many years ago...

The only counter argument is the new day to night transition tracks needing the new renderer... Was that worth a reduction in features? Would we really be here complaining about that?

 

[wutang4ever]

Most of the seasonals are prize cars or cars needed for something during the career mode. I agree that it has been a let down that they have not released any seasonal race events yet, but I and hoping that they will release some once GT5 seasonals are done with.

Yes, I have acquired many of the required cars as prizes, but for example the LCC Rocket is not going to get you close to a gold trophy in stock form you will put $50k+ into upgrades to get a $60k reward and a paint chip. The events just seem to be doing them for the sake of trophy and some bragging rights, no real tangible rewards like the events in GT5 that make collecting high priced cars feasible.

 

[DaBomm4]

Don't you mean 93k plus login bonus? Remember, it stacks.
I do still agree with you though.

Edit: You are guaranteed 102.3k if you gold it with one day login.

 

[wutang4ever]

Don't you mean 93k plus login bonus? Remember, it stacks.
I do still agree with you though.

Edit: You are guaranteed 102.3k if you gold it with one day login.

I was just generalizing for how it would be for the casual player, we are the oddballs here that play all the time. It's just easy to see how things like that could really turn off the casual GT player compared to what is offered on the surface in GT5.

 

[elston87]

I may have nothing to do in GT6 at the moment, but I didn't buy my PS3 exclusively for Gran Turismo. Luckily, there are things called other games that can keep me occupied until something else interesting comes up for GT6~

 

[DaBomm4]

I was just generalizing for how it would be for the casual player, we are the oddballs here that play all the time.

Yeah, I try to keep my login bonus at 200% even if I won't be playing for the next week just because I could use those extra credits. But I understand that buying parts for a car that you would only use for that event, and not getting a good return on that investment seems worthless.

 

[HuskyGT]

Were getting a new track this month. Enough o be excited about. Although I do admit I'm feeling a bit bored already. what makes me feel a bit frustrated is waiting for fixes, and not knowing if broken things will actually get fixed.

Right now I'm thoroughly testing my cars by category to see which is the best. That's how I usually have the most fun in the game and it should keep me entertained for the next two weeks. After that... I don't know.

 

[ccvampyre]

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-launch-event-reveals-x2014-intro-movie-january-update-deltawing-more/

I still can't see any sources.

Now READ
it clearly states january

I cant believe ppl can defend this

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

To put it bluntly, the more successful business strategy for PD would have been to simply add the new physics, cars, and tracks. Along with the new "spread sheet events" to GT 5...

Then rebrand it GT 5.9

I really can't agree with this.

Also, tesselation, different lighting model etc are not things that can just be patched in, it's probably easier to start from scratch than go through all of the old code, delete parts of it and insert the new code into the old engine, it just doesn't work like that. No doubt attempting to do that would bring too many bugs, crashes and man hours to do.

 

[ccvampyre]

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-launch-event-reveals-x2014-intro-movie-january-update-deltawing-more/

 

[Lawndart]

I really can't agree with this.

Also, tessellation, different lighting model etc are not things that can just be patched in, it's probably easier to start from scratch than go through all of the old code, delete parts of it and insert the new code into the old engine, it just doesn't work like that. No doubt attempting to do that would bring too many bugs, crashes and man hours to do.

I know exactly how it works, I've been producing games for 20 years... but the real issue is the lack of any return on the investment... all that lighting, tessellation, etc. doesn't add up to a better game, worse its not even a better looking game...

We seriously do not need to keep making excuses for PD... No new tech or lousy menu moved the needle for the GT series... Heck, half the arguments are about the needle going backwards...

Sorry, nothing personal, I'm just losing patience, I prefer racing on console, and I have Fanatec hardware... and I've already poured 1000's of hours into Forza 4 and GT 5... So my/our options are limited, with my hardware, are limited, a situation many here are effected by.

But I will say PD's tracks and cars are STELLAR! I just wish there was a game in there somewhere...

 

[snoopybg]

Ok, i think i just should be happy to have other things to do than constantly complain about Gran Turismo - wether its GT5, GT6 or every other GT game that will be released in future, you guys seem to be never satisfied and i really feel sorry to you

Don't. The disappointment just pushed me off the edge to invest some more money and get the real experience. Happier than ever.

 

[eran0004]

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-launch-event-reveals-x2014-intro-movie-january-update-deltawing-more/

Now READ
it clearly states january

I cant believe ppl can defend this

That wasn't very hard, was it?

So it seems like it's delayed then. Big deal.

 

[Lawndart]

That wasn't very hard, was it?

So it seems like it's delayed then. Big deal.

Delayed expectations of an already paid customer is a very poor business practice. How hard is it to update our expectations?

I'm sure most here would be satisfied with some re-leveling of expectations in any form, and not continue to be placated by fantasy cars and distracted by a fantasy track. We would gleefully talk about any details of those features even if late, but nothing at all? Expect a feature and get another car?! The gloves are off... I'm embarrassed that this still happens in my industry... Lots wrong with the game industry but sunning customers isn't nearly as common these days.

 

[sparkytooth]

He said:



No mention of community features.

So if you've got a source, please share it.

Was pretty sure they had mentioned something about community features during the first presentation.

 

[raven214]

I know exactly how it works, I've been producing games for 20 years... but the real issue is the lack of any return on the investment... all that lighting, tessellation, etc. doesn't add up to a better game, worse its not even a better looking game...

We seriously do not need to keep making excuses for PD... No new tech or lousy menu moved the needle for the GT series... Heck, half the arguments are about the needle going backwards...

Sorry, nothing personal, I'm just losing patience, I prefer racing on console, and I have Fanatec hardware... and I've already poured 1000's of hours into Forza 4 and GT 5... So my/our options are limited, with my hardware, are limited, a situation many here are effected by.

But I will say PD's tracks and cars are STELLAR! I just wish there was a game in there somewhere...

Exactly. I appreciate that PD went through all the trouble to redo the game, but at least so far, the results are nowhere near the effort. GT5 looked great. The only real problem I had with its graphics were smoke/dust and especially the edges thereof. So all the tessellation and lighting work has managed to improve smoke and that's about it. The cars and tracks still look much as they did before (mostly awesome). In fact, the main improvement graphically has been a large selection of the "standard" cars, but that's due mostly to work done on those specific car models (poly and texture cleanup/remodeling) rather than anything new/different that GT6 is doing. Throw in the new lighting bugs (mainly cockpit visibility issues) that have been introduced and GT6 loses yet another point, though I'm hoping this will be fixed with time.

Considering the half game we have now, it would have made much more sense to package the cars, tracks, and physics of GT6 as a GT5 Spec 3.0 on a re-released disc. Then the graphics engine for the PS4 wouldn't have to be watered down for the PS3 and PD could focus more effort on the next GT as a completely new product on the next gen console. Hopefully time will show that PD made the right decision, but right now they have a lot of work to do.

 

[Zuku]

Well... A lot of people including me said it would be GT5.5 since May 25 2013, but we are just haters or trolls so don't listen to us.

I'd say GT3.5 actually for many reasons besides update to Physics what has GT6 introduced that wasn't already in GT4 or GT5?

Before anyone mentions the stars crap we already had day/night cycles anyways so it's not like it's that revolutionary.

 

[CBH]

PD should have never released GT6 on PS3 as raven214 just pointed out it should have been GT5 Spec 3.0 on a re-released disc 👍.

 

[MockngBrd]

mine's been gathering dust for some time

 

[mohammad]

they should have come up with some kinda extended & repeatable career mode
like after you finished it once you get to start again but this time its more difficult but payouts are better , maybe more laps different tracks & prize cars get better
then the 3rd time
& then 4th time maybe ,,

 

[SillyBillyP]

I am so bored with GT6 that it has become my go-to solution for insomnia.

EDIT: OK, I'm kidding. I'm actually still enjoying it. But that's only cos I enjoy sim-like racing so much.

When I started playing it back in December I was massively disappointed to find it basically looked worse than its predecessor. The slightly-improved ai behaviour and the physics in GT6 have gone some way to making up for its failings.

That said, I'd tend to agree with what Lawndart and raven214 are saying.