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Sorry to repeat topics, but... I revisited Reboot's Fuji with the recent ClimaxF1 retexture, and I have the issue of distant mountains (including Mount Fuji) looking plain gray. I think in the past I solved it by modifying some of the "Adaptive Clip Planes" parameters, as was commented here.

I have tried to find the solution again with the forum search, and neither of the two options I have found (increase "Far plane, m:" or increase "ta_fog_distance %" in Sol) seems to work... By the way, CSP 0.1.79 and 3 Monitors, not VR...

Could someone without this problem share their "Adaptive clip planes" settings, or suggest some idea to see if I can fix it?

Thanks in advance, pals...
This used to be the easy solution:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/assetto-corsa-pc-mods-general-discussion.307899/post-13979169

But since I posted it not so long ago here, I checked and for some reason, that slider does nothing now, must be a new bug introduced with a new CSP version...once again...:grumpy:

EDIT: reverting to earlier CSP versions and reinstalling SOL didn't help either, so I have no clue why this thing doesn't work anymore...:indiff:
EDIT2: using SOL...
 
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has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
 

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has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
Are you aware that PureLCS is not ready, it is still missing skyboxes and some shaders for example. Those should be in the next version that comes out in September. You also need a PPF that is meant to be used with this new PureLCS, I don't think any older filter will work. Did you try Pure filter with LCS, it looked fine for me, certainly not worse than most Default weather LCS filters.
 
has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
Have you not read any of the explanation provided by Peter so far? the LCS feature implemented in CSP, and so which is used by Pure LCS, cannot work correctly with older/previous ppfilter which were made for the old Pure/Pure Gamma.
 
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Tried (and failed at places) to update 101Creative's forgotten-or-forever-in-beta VX220 (2 years! Come on!).


changes :

  • rear lights, indicators, low / high beams, tyres from his Opel Speedster.
  • added plate livery and stock colours from my version of the Speedster / VX220 with optional black roof colour

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What still needs to be done : proper understanding of emissive and refracting lights. That ain't for my monke brain.
Oh and revamping the interior like his Speedster.

Maybe 101Creative will see this and FINALLY RELEASE IT. Or not.
 
Regarding Simplygon's ridiculous paywall and the lack of mod LODs since, I was reminded of this Blender method that I used before Simplygon was integrated into CM. Might be worth investigating? I seem to remember being able to produce a set of rudimentary LODs in about 10 mins. Won't be as quick and easy as Simplygon, but better than nothing.
Tried it, messes up the UV badly. get the EasyLOD plugin for Blender, takes less time, is less buggy and gives better results.
 
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This used to be the easy solution:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/assetto-corsa-pc-mods-general-discussion.307899/post-13979169

But since I posted it not so long ago here, I checked and for some reason, that slider does nothing now, must be a new bug introduced with a new CSP version...once again...:grumpy:
Thanks for test it!

Yes, I found that option with the search , but as you say, it has no effect, although I have noticed that while moving the fog slider, the image of the distant mountains flashes and is seen correctly for fractions of a second. Anyway, I can be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that in the past I resolved the problem tinkering settings in "Adaptative Clip Planes"... but don't remember what numbers I set, hence my request that anyone share their settings...

On the other hand, while I have test briefly newer versions, I'm still using the latest recommended public CSP version (0.1.79), so I don't know if it's really a CSP issue. Can be wrong again, of course...

The only thing I have left to try is Masscot's suggestion of changing the time of day, to see if it has any effect.
 
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I've tried it in several situations and when everything is in place it works very well and reduces lod creation times.. The first step, merge vertices by distance, merges neighboring vertices within a certain distance. Especially in older 3D models, or in those with an incorrect topology, rather annoying distortions are created, in some cases even serious ones (1) . All this happens due to the alteration of the topology of the model. With just the first step, taking TVR as an example, exactly this happens. If we then decimate the model, the situation gets worse: we will have decimated a disaster, obtaining a double disaster (2). Furthermore, it would still be necessary to manually eliminate all the useless meshes for that lod, so specific work would still need to be done. Every time I've had to create a lod, I've never been lucky. 🙁


1. Merge vertices by distance

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2. Decimate modifier

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You have to recalculate the normals after merging. You didn't that's why you have these distortions
 
As Alguecool also said there should be no problems. Follow his suggestion and if it doesn't work, let us know so we can figure out what's wrong. Just to be sure, in the ksEditor check if the shader works. Select the brake disc material, look for the "glowlevel" parameter (or something similar) and give it a value (in my case I chose 100 as the value). If the disk glows, then it means that the problem is not in the shader section (obviously reset the value to 0 before saving, it's just a test).

But remember: sometimes they don't want to work at all. 😂

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I'm not using kseditor, but kseditorAT

How do I make the view look colorful like you? Mine is like black and white

Also it is glowing so I guess the shader does work. But is it normal to leave it at 0?
 
I'm not using kseditor, but kseditorAT

How do I make the view look colorful like you? Mine is like black and white

Also it is glowing so I guess the shader does work. But is it normal to leave it at 0?
It's normal to leave the value at zero as it changes automatically in game, let's put it this way. But I don't quite understand what you mean by "it looks black and white", can you explain it better? :confused:
 
The porsche is a pretty poor example of re-releasing cars, There isn't an car like that in base AC lol. As for TRR they should be avoided at all cost. Yes their 3D models are often stolen from other creators they have told 3D modelers before that they are willing to pay if someone were to help them with 3D model stuff only to completely ghost them when they get the 3D model and still use it after not paying.

They are known for stealing LUA codes and using assets without permission that other people have made. Their physics are Kunos garbage. idk why people keep "praising them" when all they do is wait for someone else to do the job and swoop in and steal it all and apply their ACTK level of "polish and fixes" Their Panoz GTR-1 mod is literally just F302's convert and nothing else lmfao.
that is true about TRR but sometimes they make fixes like for example the Nissan GTP ZX Turbo was pretty much forgotten and hadent been updated in forever, they came and yes did the wrong thing and steal it but also updated it to have new features like for example working wipers and rain actually hitting the glass.
 
Blue/grey mountains are normally a fog or smog issue.
If the mountains 'wobble' then that's usually insufficient far clip plains, but I don't think that will solve the blue/grey mountains.
In Sol (and Pure) reducing fog/smog should fix it, but you'll probably lose the rest of the nice 'fade with distance' depth effect that fog/smog provides.
Changing the time of day can also help, so the sun direction on the mountain is different.
Where can one change clip plain, as I have this problem but only with Willow Spring
Tried (and failed at places) to update 101Creative's forgotten-or-forever-in-beta VX220 (2 years! Come on!).


changes :

  • rear lights, indicators, low / high beams, tyres from his Opel Speedster.
  • added plate livery and stock colours from my version of the Speedster / VX220 with optional black roof colour

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What still needs to be done : proper understanding of emissive and refracting lights. That ain't for my monke brain.
Oh and revamping the interior like his Speedster.

Maybe 101Creative will see this and FINALLY RELEASE IT. Or not.
@petercrill is the man behind :D
 
has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
Well, something seems really wrong reg. your settings or you just did not install it properly. This shot was taken with LCS and pure candy ppfilter, without altering anything.

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Let me know if you need help in setting up pure or CM.
 
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Regarding Simplygon's ridiculous paywall and the lack of mod LODs since, I was reminded of this Blender method that I used before Simplygon was integrated into CM. Might be worth investigating? I seem to remember being able to produce a set of rudimentary LODs in about 10 mins. Won't be as quick and easy as Simplygon, but better than nothing.
Well, yes and no. Best way to get a quick LOD yes, but that would be an awful one. Needs a few quick and easy steps to make a still quick, but more decent one.

First, a quick sorting :
  • Once you have opened your fbx in Blender, keep the object mode for now and create a few collections (3, for exemple), like "important", "not important" and "useless".
  • Select all the important objects you know you want to keep in "good" shape, like all the car body, rims, tires, windshields and for some open-top models, some parts of the interior (hold shift for multiple selections. Or Ctrl, don't remember the vanilla one, sorry).
  • Click M and move them to their respective collection.
  • Do the same for the "less important", it should include interior main parts, some visible exterior parts like brake discs, underbody, grids, exhaust, logos, lights parts, etc.
  • Same thing for the "useless", should include everything that is out of sight from the complete car FROM THE OUTSIDE VIEW, like interior windshied, and too small objects/detailing, like bolts, screws, etc. You should not have anything left outside of a collection, but better to do it step by step so you don't miss anything.
  • hide the useless one but don't delete it yet.

Second, reducing polys :
  • Select all objects from the important one (hide all collections except this one, then click A), go to Edit mode (click Tab), select all Vertices (click A again), go to mesh - clean up - decimate geometry. Choose a result somewhere around 0.5 to 0.2 (depending on the model's quality, the worst it is the more you might want to keep it intact. on the other hand, the more polys, the more you need to shave).
  • Do the same for the less important group, but this time choose a result between 0.2 and 0.1
  • Show in visible both collections. Select all, Edit mode, Select all again (A, Tab, A), click M to merge vertices, choose by distance, navigate the distance to your liking (ideally, you shoudn't see differences before/after while maximizing the merge number).
  • Now take a look around. If you DON'T see any holes/parts missing/bugs and stuff around, you can go ahead and delete all objects in the useless collection.

Third, in case it's needed :
  • In the Top right part of the viewport, you should be in "solid mode". Keep it. Click the little arrow next to the "overlay" and select "face orientation" under geometry. Blue means visible, red means unvisible.
  • Select all your objects from both collections in object mode, switch to edit mode and select all vertices (A, Tab, A).
  • Go to mesh - normals - set from faces
  • Look around to control if everything appears in blue on the car. To control the interior, simply hide the windscreen objects.
  • If a rebel scum decide to switch orientation for no reason (it can happen, especially with borked models), select all the model's vertices (again, select object, Tab to switch mode, A to select all), go to mesh - normals - recalculate outside, or inside, until you got the right face.

In the end, you wont have a good LOD_B but it should come out correct enough.

LOD_C and LOD_D are a bit different, but you apply the same method for the poly reduction, except you will need to reduce also the number of object and material. You can use Ctrl+J to join object together (with the same material), and you can edit/select a different material for an object in the Editor properties - Material properties (best to use the most basic ones, except car body and rims paint, which must remain the same to avoid a conflict with the texture for a skin).
 
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For anyone who wants to try it, i've uploaded a test version of the changes i've made to Instanbul Park so far. It's a full track version because it's easier for me to test and change things this way. Don't worry, it's a standalone track for now and won't interfere with your original version. You can safely delete it if you don't like it. In your track list, it will come up as 'Istanbul Park Test'.

Istanbul Park Test

List of changes I can remember:

-- New grass textures.
-- New VAO patches.
-- Jumbotrons are live via a track skin. They can be turned off by disabling the skin.
-- Fixes to some of the shader and material entries. No value changes, but a bunch of them had the same names which disabled a lot of the lights that were supposed to come on.
-- Added some trees and treewalls to hide some dead space areas.
-- Other little tweaks here and there.

One thing i've noticed with this track is a ton of z-fighting and flickering. So much that I wouldn't even know where to begin to try and correct them all. At first I thought it was something I did, but I tested an unedited copy of the original track and it does the same thing. Does anyone else have the same problem with this track or could I possibly have an older version?
 
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has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
Gosh. Someone got out of bed on the wrong side today.

And yes. Peter Boese does know what he's doing. He has made AC/CSP look better than ever with his fantastic work. I think it's highly likely you've just screwed up your PP Filter or CSP settings, or simply haven't followed the proper installation instructions. Throwing all your toys at Peter isn't going help fix it either. Besides that, being so accusatory is not a good look.
 
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has anyone else purchased pure 0.40? i cant get even one ppf filters to look as good on the new pure(lcs) compared to default Ilja controller and also compared to pure gamma. pure gamma works great as it always has with pure filters and many others. CSP default weather controller looks even better with certain lcs filters... but i cant get any filter to look good on pure-lcs compared to default lcs or this guys earlier work. does the guying who gets
$60,000 a month on patreon know what he is doing? his lcs work so far is so bad. it is no problem for me as i can always use default ilja settings, or cancel my subcription, but what is the point of spending money on a product that makes the game look worse??? these early lcs releases should be free beta mods.
Please just have a look if everything is installed properly on your side. Actually every ppfilter should work in Pure LCS, because i correct many things if no specific pure script exists. So the things are like on a preset mode. I guess something happend on your side and if you open the ingame Lua Debug app and there is a red dot, some error occurs.
For now no one complained about in that amount of Pure LCS's look, so it might be a problem on your side, which is fixable, but it would need some kind of politeness to do this in a good way.

Why don't you report this at Pure Discord Server at first? Idk if you follow my support work at Patreon or Discord, but i try to reply to every question and i think noone can say that i'm not responsible for my work...
 
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