Auto is better than manual transmission

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From point a to b straight line speed who will reach the finishing line first ?

  • Auto

    Votes: 75 11.3%
  • Manual

    Votes: 587 88.7%

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freedomweasel
I'm not exaggerating when I say I have never missed/forgotten to shift in GT5.
It's also worth noting that I'm generally very average based on the time trial leaderboards.

My thing is I don't miss shift BUT the shifter snaps back after shifts. So example: I'll go to downshift and hit the shifter and it'll bounce back and shift back up. I want a real gearbox 5 speed set up like in my car.
 
Zidane makes the mistake of thinking using manual gears is hard, and the mistake of thinking that people can't drive without making mistakes. When manual is easy, its like riding a bike, once you know how its the most natural thing in the world.

I do agree though he has done a fantastic job of trolling, most don't last 23 pages.
 
Did you mean; change gear right before you're executing a driving maneuver causing you to loose control of the car and crash, or causing a need to hit the brakes and loose all excitement from the driving experience?

If so then 👍

Automatic gear changing occurs at this level or speed related.
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There is no way to keep a low RPM run through a slow corner since it changes gear when I slow down.
 
LOL at the redline pic.

I knew what you ment, I was elaberating on how auto can make driving fast laps a pain. Exactly because the gearbox will change at redline reguardless of where you are on track or what you may be doing.
 
Auto is g@y even if it is faster. Wouldn't surprise me if it was on GT5 tho having also seen what people can do with pads up against racers with wheels.
 
Melluish_F1
Auto is g@y even if it is faster. Wouldn't surprise me if it was on GT5 tho having also seen what people can do with pads up against racers with wheels.

Auto gay? Where do you come up with this stuff? Auto isn't as great as Manual, but I've seen real life drifters running Automatic trannies and they shift down to Low gear to help initiate Drift. I will admit though in the Video the Guy using it, went too fast into a Corner and almost killed the Option Video guy who always gets hit while filming. Look were all Drifters, and no one does stuff the exact same. Let's show some respect to others.
 
Ok then what if I say they both manual and auto evens up ?

Manual had better rpm but auto makes up for it by not losing a semi second changing gears

No matter what human fingers will never be as fast as auto movement unless you are a robot



You're talking about about shifting times and not shifting at the RIGHT moment.
 
The fact that manual is faster than automatic is not up for debate. If you prefer to drive automatic nobody is going to stop you.

In my opinion though manual is just more fun. It is more engrossing and opens up aspects of driving/racing that are simply not present when using auto.
 
We are?

I agree with you though, no need to call auto gay, has nothing to do with anyones sexual deal.

What sexual deal are you referring to?
Sometimes the word gay refer to "being feminine or womanish" which is a sign of weakness when it comes to men. (thus auto is a sign of weakness) That's why you never see anyone write "using Manuel is so lesbian". Still it's corrupt communication and should be avoided.
 
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Still, I don't have a BMW or Ferrari with tiptronic or anything. I have an Acura TSX, and they have this Manual mode in which you control when to shift (except if you stop which automatically goes to 1st gear). I still notice there's a big gap between my shifting to a new gear and the car actually shifting to said gear, so I don't know if tiptronic really is better than what my Acura can do or not. Anyways, for racing, I prefer Manual, it's more fun. At least in my opinion it is.
 
I have seen many autos take first position in races what say you

Race cars are never, ever automatic. I think most automatic cars also have a power restrictor on them. Plus auto doesn't work in real life like it does in the game, in real life you shift way before the redline.
 
In the real world the differences between automatic and manual are becoming blurred. The Porsche PDK is an automatic, double clutch transmission which can shift faster than a human and is a true double clutch transmission not a torque converter. One clutch handles 1,3,5, and 7 and the other 2,4, and 6. The car can shift up or down almost instantly because the alternate gears are already engaged.

The driver can select between sequential manual shifting using paddles or an automatic with different levels of aggressiveness in the shift points.

The fully automatic mode is faster from 0 to 100kmh because it incorporates a launch control mechanism which both applies power more smoothly and hits the shift point accurately in the low gears. In high powered cars it is very difficult to hit the shift from 1st to 2nd accurately off the line.

It is my understanding the the paddle controlled PDK transmissions produces lower lap times at Nurburgring than the manual transmission on a Turbo.
 
Auto is g@y even if it is faster. Wouldn't surprise me if it was on GT5 tho having also seen what people can do with pads up against racers with wheels.

Do you think auto is lame in real life too?

Sure, if you are driving just for fun, then I would chose manual everyday.

But when you are stuck in the traffic jam, don't tell me that manual is nice:sly:
 
In the real world the differences between automatic and manual are becoming blurred. The Porsche PDK is an automatic, double clutch transmission which can shift faster than a human and is a true double clutch transmission not a torque converter. One clutch handles 1,3,5, and 7 and the other 2,4, and 6. The car can shift up or down almost instantly because the alternate gears are already engaged.

The driver can select between sequential manual shifting using paddles or an automatic with different levels of aggressiveness in the shift points.

The fully automatic mode is faster from 0 to 100kmh because it incorporates a launch control mechanism which both applies power more smoothly and hits the shift point accurately in the low gears. In high powered cars it is very difficult to hit the shift from 1st to 2nd accurately off the line.

It is my understanding the the paddle controlled PDK transmissions produces lower lap times at Nurburgring than the manual transmission on a Turbo.

I don't doubt that. As much as I love a proper manual gearbox and will probably never buy a dual clutch (or any other form of manual gearbox without a clutch pedal), I appreciate that the latter is definitely faster.

As for the auto vs. manual debate (in real life), an auto is only an "auto" if it has a torque converter. It's the torque converter that I don't like, not so much the fact that the car shifts for me.

If I had to chose between an automatic and a dual clutch, I would take the dual clutch any day (or a robotised manual with a single clutch).
 
Personally I find auto better than manual because you won't lose precious seconds mistakenly changing gear and you get maximum output

Unless you have aids all off and you don't have a 4wd car auto is the way to go

The point is to not make a mistake.
 
What sexual deal are you referring to?
Sometimes the word gay refer to.....

Sexual orientation and the post I was refering to it apeared as though the implication was either that the transmission was homosexual or whoever uses an auto transmission is homosexual.

I have never heard of someone saying gay to mean a feminine man who is not homosexual, usually the term for that is 'girl'.
 
Auto is better with DS3
Manual is for wheels!

Can I have the both option?

Random online play with a ds3 - auto
Serious racing with wheel - manual

Nonsense, why would auto be better with ds3?
Put throttle and brake on L2 and R2. Throttle and brake with your index fingers. Use your thumb to shift up with circle and shift down with square.
That's it. It's so simple..
And surely you're faster with manual with a DS3
 
Auto is g@y even if it is faster. Wouldn't surprise me if it was on GT5 tho having also seen what people can do with pads up against racers with wheels.

One, even though you've cued it up...you might not want to say that again.

Two, I was completely unaware that transmissions, being the inanimate objects that they are, had sexual preferences.

Three, what relevance does a skilled player with a pad going toe-to-toe with wheels users have with, well, anything?
 
Nonsense, why would auto be better with ds3?
Put throttle and brake on L2 and R2. Throttle and brake with your index fingers. Use your thumb to shift up with circle and shift down with square.
That's it. It's so simple..
And surely you're faster with manual with a DS3
When using the DS3, I employ X for upshifts and square for downshifts. I think it's more ergonomical than using square/circle buttons.
By the way, I also use circle for horn, triangle for flashlights, right stick back for reverse, R1 for handbrake in addition to L2/R2 for brake/throttle and left stick for steering. Perfect setup for the controller, in my opinion.
 
Auto also looses a lot of stopping power due to lack of engine braking.

I highly doubt anyone driving Auto (with no interference with holding gears) IN GT5 could beat the laptimes I could do with a manual on the same car and track.
 
Race cars are never, ever automatic. I think most automatic cars also have a power restrictor on them. Plus auto doesn't work in real life like it does in the game, in real life you shift way before the redline.

my auto golf vr6 has a variable learn function on the auto box and if i drive fast enough and hard enough it revs out to the red line it is so much fun and soon to be turbo'd
but for racing there is no substitute for manual as you can use the gears to slow the car but i do tend to use auto with controller and manual with my wheel i must get used to manual with controller its so much better
 
Auto is better with DS3
Manual is for wheels!
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Yo man i agree 100%. This is one of the main reasons a wheel makes you a better driver. I have ham for hands and it's not the easiest thing in the world to shift Manually with a DS3, prefer a wheel, with Paddles or a Stick. I had one for the PS1/2 but not for the PS3 :banghead: But a Manual is faster, no doubt, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just ignorant.
 
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