"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Doglove]

Yes, it’s not mapped stock.
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Thanx @ Pigems. I don't have a wheel but i'l figure it out.

 

[Pigems]

Thanx @ Pigems. I don't have a wheel but i'l figure it out.

No worries. It’s still the same menu, just choose to map the DS4 instead of a wheel.

 

[Doglove]

No worries. It’s still the same menu, just choose to map the DS4 instead of a wheel.

Ok, thanx

 

[Tea_Leaves]

[I think the Greddy Fugu]

I've a feeling it will be something else (hopefully I'm not being too optimistic) if PD's current trend of variety is to go by. The Plymouth, E-Type or X-BOW would be interesting to see. I'd love if it was the latter, I can picture it being a good fit. Although I won't be too upset if it's the Fugu, it was fun driving it around Tsukuba last time.

I'm looking forward to Monza (please no chicane), last time was with Gr.1 many moons ago. I don't think Gr.3 has been used since the weekly race switch. I also stumbled into a lobby recently with Gr.3 at Monza which was very enjoyable.

 

[WaikeCU]

I think because of 24h Le Mans next week, we'd see La Sarthe with Gr.1 as Race C

 

[Pigems]

I've a feeling it will be something else (hopefully I'm not being too optimistic) if PD's current trend of variety is to go by. The Plymouth, E-Type or X-BOW would be interesting to see. I'd love if it was the latter, I can picture it being a good fit. Although I won't be too upset if it's the Fugu, it was fun driving it around Tsukuba last time.

I'm looking forward to Monza (please no chicane), last time was with Gr.1 many moons ago. I don't think Gr.3 has been used since the weekly race switch. I also stumbled into a lobby recently with Gr.3 at Monza which was very enjoyable.

That lap times will need to be around 1:15 in order to get a 6:25 race out of it, so cars around that time will be the best candidates.

 

[MaxAttack]

Ok, thanx

I map it to l1, as i am usually not braking with DRS open provided I am thinking straight.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

This is dirty af . I would report you and post the video for doing this and probably give you a nice little payback.
Braking early is the easiest way to let someone pass you, or to ensure you exit as fast as possible. It's entirely on you since to did not go for the inside line.

He is braking at the beginning of the curb, which is few m after the braking point for the F1, he could as well not be used to the better braking of the porsche.

Dirty? What am I supposed to do, punt him off or dive bomb on his inside and knock him off? I'm going as far left as possible, I have overlap before turn in, he keeps pushing me over the line not paying attention. I try to avoid yet am not stepping the last bit over the line until he bumps me over it. People need to watch their position in the braking zone, not drift over. I'm not giving him a penalty on purpose, was simply trying to keep 2 wheels inside the line not to get a shortcut penalty while avoiding him.

I'm not braking late, despite him forcing me on the less grippy side of the braking zone I still easily make the apex. He's in a car that can brake almost at the bend of the kerb, braking at the start of the kerb is braking too early in the Porsche. That's why I drive all the car so I know where every car's braking point is.

Try the Z4

Already did, got 5th in it. Stable car, not much different from the other BMWs

I'm not criticizing the outside move, im criticizing the part where he claims purposely provoking a penalty is an appropriate way to deal with a less skilled driver that did nothing wrong. Seeing the way the Porsche took the turn, he gained time on the previous drivers and probably managed to catch their draft on the way to Arnage.

Essentially, if you complain about people driving too slow, just qualify better or drive more carefully.

I'm not complaining about people that slow down after the Porsche curve even though it annoys me. But then again, the only time it annoyed me was when I got a penalty and got passed by someone slower. Otherwise qualifying takes care of removing slower drivers.

You read that wrong, or perhaps I worded that wrong. Going for the outside is what I recommend when someone brakes early there as otherwise you punt them off or give them a penalty by skipping short cutting the bend and hitting them anyway.

if they don't pay attention and push you off, penalty for them. Where does that say I purposely provoke a penalty for him? I could not go further to the left without getting a shortcut penalty.

 

[stpatty]

Down to 3:58.6 at Le Mans in the GT-R with low 57's on the optimum. Big fan of the track limits and trying to make it turn through the Porsche curves, still.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven Jurgens I just had an idea. You can’t draft your ghost in Qualifying, but can you draft one in a race? He’s my theory, coming down the long straights you just pause the game so your car ghosts out(while maintaining full throttle because you’re on a straight) but the guy behind loses his draft because you’re a ghost, then Unpause near the end of the straight and continue on. It might also work if your about to get draft bumped, he’d go right through you instead.

You can draft ghosts in race, you'll just be making it easy for them to draft right through you! That's what I do now when the car in front of me has a penalty in the 3rd penalty zone and refuses to move off the line. I just go through them to take the best line through the chicane. Trying to avoid their ghost never works there.

Next week races:
A: Tsukuba Circuit - N300 [I think the Greddy Fugu]
B: Dragon Trail Gardens - Gr. 4
C: Monza - Gr. 3

I like race B and C. These will be my favourites.

Oh, good old Monza, hasn't been around for a while. Another week of trying to get a clean bonus in each GR.3 car after possibly getting rest on Monday. Although it's a C race, estimated 17 or 18 SR per clean race , so getting dive bombed resulting in a penalty for you should be survivable. (Except back to the back at the penalty zone) It is the dirtiest track in the game though, Monday is going to be rough!

 

[MaxAttack]

Down to 3:58.6 at Le Mans in the GT-R with low 57's on the optimum. Big fan of the track limits and trying to make it turn through the Porsche curves, still.

57s optimal... With the autobox if I read your sig correct? Hot damn I gotta qualify better

 

[Riptide]

Next week races:
A: Tsukuba Circuit - N300 [I think the Greddy Fugu]
B: Dragon Trail Gardens - Gr. 4
C: Monza - Gr. 3

I like race B and C. These will be my favourites.

Race C should be good practice for Nations Round 19 on the 29th two days after this ends. Same car, same tires, both rolling starts, both 6x fuel usage. Only difference is where the Daily race is 13 x tire wear, the Nations race is [typical PD these days] 26 x tire wear.

 

[Veinz]

What is the fastest way of making 600k credits? That’s all I need for the SF19 on my eu account.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

You can draft ghosts in race, you'll just be making it easy for them to draft right through you! That's what I do now when the car in front of me has a penalty in the 3rd penalty zone and refuses to move off the line. I just go through them to take the best line through the chicane. Trying to avoid their ghost never works there.

You get dirty air from ghosts too, it's a real pain when you're lapping people in race C because you lose a lot of grip and the backmarkers don't pull over because they're ghosting. I've seen it actually influence the race for the win sometimes.

 

[MaxAttack]

What is the fastest way of making 600k credits? That’s all I need for the SF19 on my eu account.

mum's credit card

 

[Pigems]

What is the fastest way of making 600k credits? That’s all I need for the SF19 on my eu account.

Use the old Mazda RX car in GT League professional, the premium sports lounge race 1, BMB. If you use a N300 car you get 375,000k in 12 minutes work with clean race bonus.

I should add, it’s a lot easier with a tuned RX500, RSS tires.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Removed 1.5 seconds off my QT at la Sarthe with the Ford GT so 3:58.6 now. Two wheels in and two out approach at the apex without being too scared of penalties seems to have helped. I still can't help closing my eyes each time at Tertre Rouge and other places in hope I didn't hit a penalty.

The last sector definitely makes or breaks the lap. If I can hit 3:57, I'll be happy. I doubt I can go beyond that.

 

[05XR8]

Danabbit. Penalties.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

You get dirty air from ghosts too, it's a real pain when you're lapping people in race C because you lose a lot of grip and the backmarkers don't pull over because they're ghosting. I've seen it actually influence the race for the win sometimes.

Yep that was a big problem on Brand's hatch. Lapping ghosts would slow down your lap time considerably in that race car.

Quick early morning race

Fast room. I got held up at the start, patiently sitting behind a clumsy AMG. He inisisted on out braking me at the first chicane on the straight, I avoided him and kept 2 wheels on the line letting the next car pass as well as my speed was now compromised. The AMG ended up with 1.5 sec shortcut penalty trying to save his dive. Draft passed the one that passed me and the AMG at the penalty zone for clean race bonus.

Watch out at Indianapolis with the NSX, slippery thing. Slow as well. I got held up in lap 2 again at the end yet even without it I doubt I would have done any better than a 4:04 in this car.

 

[stpatty]

57s optimal... With the autobox if I read your sig correct? Hot damn I gotta qualify better

Yep! That was after four laps. I'm sure being in different/better gears through the Porsche curves would help with the understeer.

 

[WaikeCU]

Removed 1.5 seconds off my QT at la Sarthe with the Ford GT so 3:58.6 now. Two wheels in and two out approach at the apex without being too scared of penalties seems to have helped. I still can't help closing my eyes each time at Tertre Rouge and other places in hope I didn't hit a penalty.

The last sector definitely makes or breaks the lap. If I can hit 3:57, I'll be happy. I doubt I can go beyond that.

You can do it!

 

[Invisigoth]

Use the old Mazda RX car in GT League professional, the premium sports lounge race 1, BMB. If you use a N300 car you get 375,000k in 12 minutes work with clean race bonus.

I've been doing the RB Standard at la Sarthe for my bux. 230,000 for just over 8 mins with no fafing around with clean race bonuses or handicaps. best lap so far 2:38.xxx 👍. Another 2.5 mil to go for my next car . Then on to qualifying for the much slower pace at race B and trying to work out why I can't take from the Porche curves to the Ford chicane in 7th with my foot on the floor in the Gr.3 cars .

 

[ASH32]

Remember what I said yesterday about the time to be found in that last sector at Autopolis, well I found more.



Ok it's right on the edge of using too much grass but I got away with it. Also still at least a tenth possible in both the 1st and 2nd sector but I doubt I'll match this 3rd sector again. I'll keep trying though, I've got my daily mileage to do at the very least so I may as well.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

This is dirty af . I would report you and post the video for doing this and probably give you a nice little payback.
Braking early is the easiest way to let someone pass you, or to ensure you exit as fast as possible. It's entirely on you since to did not go for the inside line.

He is braking at the beginning of the curb, which is few m after the braking point for the F1, he could as well not be used to the better braking of the porsche.

There's no such thing as dive bombing the outside. It's typically an evasive move when you think you could possibly ram the car in front of you. You brake and fade to the outside trying to keep two wheels in, rather than ramming them. Corner/apex rights are exactly that, inside corner and apex rights. There is no overlap needed to brake late to setup an outside position. Sven was wheel to wheel before the bump, I would even go as far to presume that the Porsche intentionally edged him away from the track to scare him off, but it backfired.

Remember what I said yesterday about the time to be found in that last sector at Autopolis, well I found more.

Ok it's right on the edge of using too much grass but I got away with it.

It's fun to dig two wheels in the grass to help pivot the car but I'm too inconsistent to make that a safe line choice.

 

[ShiftingGears]

The game needs more tracks with gravel or grass run off. It leaves it less up to the penalty system as theres a natural disincentive to breach track limits.

 

[Pigems]

I knocked a bit more off of my La Sarthe time this morning, down to a 57.0 now in the Big Mac, I turned off TCS and started staying in 3rd through the chicanes along the big straight. The tops guys are getting insane times on this track, I’m gonna have to study some laps, there’s still over 3 seconds left there somewhere.


I decided to go with some race music today to mix things up because I was getting nowhere with this combo. Ironically, this song was the one that did the trick.

It’s conveniently 4:00 long too!

 

[Deadpool]

Dirty? What am I supposed to do, punt him off or dive bomb on his inside and knock him off? I'm going as far left as possible, I have overlap before turn in, he keeps pushing me over the line not paying attention. I try to avoid yet am not stepping the last bit over the line until he bumps me over it. People need to watch their position in the braking zone, not drift over. I'm not giving him a penalty on purpose, was simply trying to keep 2 wheels inside the line not to get a shortcut penalty while avoiding him.

The only dirty part was your manipulation of the penalty system for your mistake. Because make no doubt about it, intentionally giving him a penalty places you in the wrong. He wasn’t driving dirty and didn’t deserve what you did. And it was a mistake, you misjudged your opponents braking zone. You are the car attempting to pass, the

I'm not braking late, despite him forcing me on the less grippy side of the braking zone I still easily make the apex. He's in a car that can brake almost at the bend of the kerb, braking at the start of the kerb is braking too early in the Porsche. That's why I drive all the car so I know where every car's braking point is.

It’s not a matter of you braking too late. But you need to anticipate what the driver ahead of you is going to do. His line might be totally different from yours, his braking zone early etc. and he could still set the same lap time despite these differences. It’s your job to find a weakness and get past him cleanly, not complain that his line is different.

For instance Race A this week, I’m a lot less aggressive in turn 1 and the final turn than most, I prefer to brake a little earlier to set the car and carry greater speed. I’m still watching my mirror like a hawk on lap 1-2 when guys are close, but if they make a late attempt, depending on the corner there might not be much I can do.

if they don't pay attention and push you off, penalty for them.

Where does that say I purposely provoke a penalty for him? I could not go further to the left without getting a shortcut penalty.

Sorry but in this scenario you deserve the penalty not him.

 

[WaikeCU]

I knocked a bit more off of my La Sarthe time this morning, down to a 57.0 now in the Big Mac, I turned off TCS and started staying in 3rd through the chicanes along the big straight. The tops guys are getting insane times on this track, I’m gonna have to study some laps, there’s still over 3 seconds left there somewhere.


I decided to go with some race music today to mix things up because I was getting nowhere with this combo. Ironically, this song was the one that did the trick.

It’s conveniently 4:00 long too!

Who you gonna call...? THOSE BASTARDS!

 

[Pigems]

The only dirty part was your manipulation of the penalty system for your mistake. Because make no doubt about it, intentionally giving him a penalty places you in the wrong. He wasn’t driving dirty and didn’t deserve what you did. And it was a mistake, you misjudged your opponents braking zone. You are the car attempting to pass, the




It’s not a matter of you braking too late. But you need to anticipate what the driver ahead of you is going to do. His line might be totally different from yours, his braking zone early etc. and he could still set the same lap time despite these differences. It’s your job to find a weakness and get past him cleanly, not complain that his line is different.

For instance Race A this week, I’m a lot less aggressive in turn 1 and the final turn than most, I prefer to brake a little earlier to set the car and carry greater speed. I’m still watching my mirror like a hawk on lap 1-2 when guys are close, but if they make a late attempt, depending on the corner there might not be much I can do.




Sorry but in this scenario you deserve the penalty not him.

It seems to me you’re trying to say it’s better to be unaware of your surroundings. All one can do is try to avoid other cars, if they’re not paying attention that’s on them, not the guy trying to avoid them.

 

[Fast_Times_75]

That's an interesting first post.

GTPlanet is based in North America, and requires - as the first point of the Acceptable Use Policy - all users to post in English. As a result, our highest traffic nations are Anglophonic, with the USA and UK alone accounting for two-thirds of site traffic. Mostly Anglophone Canada and Australia also sit in the top five pretty regularly.

However, GTPlanet counts members and regular readers from across the globe. France, Germany, Netherlands and Spain are all usually in the top ten, and right now Italy and Brazil are rounding that out. South Africa, Japan and Malaysia all currently sit in the top fifteen, accounting for all six populated continents (I can't find any readers from Antarctica right now, but I recall we've had one) - thus GTPlanet is GTPlanet, and not GTNorthamerica or GTEnglishspeakingcountries.

I'm not sure what irony or "blanket negative stereotype" you're reading there.

Right. You specifically noted GTNorthamerica and GTEnglishspeakingcountries, implying that only those who fit that description are guilty of negatively stereotyping others. That is how I read it.

As I happen to be an English speaking North American, I find that bias disturbing coming from an administrator who is apparently responsible for moderating said bias.

Been lurking for awhile, just starting to really get into the game. Registered because I felt the need to address this as I don't want to invest much into GTPlanet if I am to be subject to bias from administrators due to my language or location.