"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[drummingcat]

It was already worse on Brands Hatch last week. This week race C has a lot of SR to burn as well so I doubt it will get much better during the week. It's another Kyoto situation. That chicane is tricky. One race a car in front of me clipped the side, I could not avid him and got a 5 sec penalty since he went wide after the chicane (like 80% of people yesterday). Next race I got a 5 sec penalty there from someone bumping me into the wall... Get bumped wide at T1 but hang on to the run off, you get SR Down. Get nailed by a car coming from the grass after he missed a turn, get SR Down. Plus still the goof old, you are ahead on the inside yet the outside car drives into you like you aren't there and you get a penalty cause they bounce themselves off.

I guess today I'll simply fuel save behind cars and wait until they go off. Any sort of pass is inviting a penalty. The straights aren't really straight, those little kinks are easy to get a penalty when the other car doesn't pay attention to your position. Yet getting punted wide when you brake on time for corners goes unpunished...

I shed 10K DR yesterday with sitting races out int he pit and simply quitting not wanting to go back into the mess thanks to unfair penalties and penalty zone. So perhaps rulings will work better today. Yesterday I was still DR.A in A/S to D/S rooms, thus DR discrimination was in full effect. Starting last on a new circuit is always trouble. It would be better to qualify for the first half of the week and then erase that to start last for the second half as trouble generally moves forward in the field during the week.

Yet really, matchmaking should take miles driven on a circuit into account. Yesterday was mainly a mess as every race had a new batch of people driving it for the first time. Starting last in that, not recommended. I got my laps into the 1:16s with the Huracan, yet thanks to unfair penalties, or rammed off and spend 10 seconds in the grass, kept being placed back in the mess. 1:16 lap then 1:30 lap lol. I saw some creative people too trying to skip the high speed right than left, skipping St Mary's over the grass...

It's a fun circuit to drive, yet maybe better against AI

I don't reckon a no stopper is on here to be honest, all that time on full throttle, tried playing around with the fuel maps and it just makes you too slow for a whole race I reckon. I could probably make the tyres last, but I don't get much time so I will let someone else try the experiment first!!

I may try dialling the fuel back to give me an extra couple of laps and then try and make a few passes in the pit stops, or pit early for clear air, there isn't really a clear passing place which hasn't got penalty written all over it.

 

[El_Beardo]

It’s just that one turn, maybe one lap in five, if I’m on the power a touch early, the rear wheels with the weight over them get all the grip and front gets nothing, probably just my driving style. I love the NSXs on technical circuits, deffo worth a nod for the FIA

Ah, gotcha. Possibly a driving style thing. I am very tempted for the FIA. I've got a nice Konica Minolta MotoGP inspired livery that desperately needs to see some action.

I don't reckon a no stopper is on here to be honest, all that time on full throttle, tried playing around with the fuel maps and it just makes you too slow for a whole race I reckon. I could probably make the tyres last, but I don't get much time so I will let someone else try the experiment first!!

I may try dialling the fuel back to give me an extra couple of laps and then try and make a few passes in the pit stops, or pit early for clear air, there isn't really a clear passing place which hasn't got penalty written all over it.

Kie25 just managed a no stop in a stream, yesterday. Citroën with some extreme fuel saving. Finished on 0% fuel.

 

[Invisigoth]

I can’t left foot brake IRL, my left foot only knows a pedal with travel distance instead of resistance. I can’t even use the brake mod that came with my pedals because my left is so used to going by travel and not pressure thanks to starting on my DFGT.

That's a shame. I had to teach myself left foot braking with the suby to control the understeer that Subaru decided was safer than oversteer. Tricky at first because you have a tendancy to press too hard . Helpfull once you get used to the feel of it. I imagine it's the same with GTS with the FF's.

No race yet tonight. Did some qualy laps with the trophy and beat my C4 time by 2 seconds with only 3 laps.

 

[Pigems]

That's a shame. I had to teach myself left foot braking with the suby to control the understeer that Subaru decided was safer than oversteer. Tricky at first because you have a tendancy to press too hard . Helpfull once you get used to the feel of it. I imagine it's the same with GTS with the FF's.

No race yet tonight. Did some qualy laps with the trophy and beat my C4 time by 2 seconds with only 3 laps.

Yeah, I’ve tried it on a couple different occasions now without success. I may try it again this weekend with the new physics model, it seems that braking is a little more important now than before so maybe it will help a bit with consistency if I can get used to it. I can use it with my right foot and drive one footed as my right foot is used to a pressure based brake from Real driving, but not the left lol.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Received an absolute gift in Race C. The race leader was ahead by 12 seconds heading onto the backstraight on the last lap, then they spun off.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

I did one race at the Seaside yesterday. I didn't spend time qualifying, only one quick lap before my race started with errors including braking before the chicane (probably placebo or I'm a big babby but I'm fine going almost full throttle on the reverse but not standard layout.) I'm one of those who perform better at reverse Seaside so my result was surprising.

QT was 1:40.1, 11th on grid in a lobby of DR As and Bs. I used the FT-1 (sorry 4C, maybe next time) which feels good for me. No wall of text diary this time so I'll just leave this here.

 

[yas]

I think it definitely got worse. I was once on the giving end of a very bad case of misjudged braking - sent the guy to outer space, yet no penalty.

This week on Dragon Trail seems people are using this - ramming is bad, with no penalties in sight. And... Look at this, I got a 3s penalty for being hit from behind in Death Chicane. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong - I am with the Mazda. And the ukranian bloke didn't get a penalty for his constant ramming. Claimed he's on the racing line, which apparently is so, according to the Penalty System.

sorry for leaving the music on here...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I don't reckon a no stopper is on here to be honest, all that time on full throttle, tried playing around with the fuel maps and it just makes you too slow for a whole race I reckon. I could probably make the tyres last, but I don't get much time so I will let someone else try the experiment first!!

I may try dialling the fuel back to give me an extra couple of laps and then try and make a few passes in the pit stops, or pit early for clear air, there isn't really a clear passing place which hasn't got penalty written all over it.

I did a no stop yesterday, it was bad. Yet yesterday was bad in general. I went FM2 with extreme short shifting in the Huracan, 1:21 laps, too slow. Pitting in lap 9 works better. I might try skipping tire change again now I don't get rammed off so often anymore. Yesterday my tires didn't make it wijtout change from all the gravel and grass excursions.

First race this morning went well, place 6th from 16th. An A+ driver who started in 15th (no qualy) won with a 21 second lead in the McLaren 650S. He was doing 1:14 laps while I'm just getting into the 1:16s. I only gut run off the track twice, getting closer to the clean race bonus!

Next race a Citroen GT won with a no stop. He started on pole, fell back a bit but got back in first when I pitted in lap 9. I was first for a lap, then 5th out of the pit, then got run off the track a couple times and finished 8th due to running out of fuel having to waste fuel starting back up from a standstill. The penalty system should really do something about nose sticking. Perhaps most people just don't know how long their car is, they can't all be dirty.

Third attempt, I get 0.5 sec penalty for avoiding a dirty block, then the perp gets nothing when he bumps me wide later costing me another 5 sec. Hit, don't avoid, that's the name of the game! It's touch enough to pass on this track without dirty blockers. No stop might actually be a better strategy. The pit exit is also pretty bad, steers you right into traffic and many don't compensate. Penalty zone, cars getting up to speed in 2 high speed corners, great choice lol.

 

[Hasnain282]

I did a few race C's and I've enjoyed them more than I expected though results haven't set the world alight.

No stop is possible, a couple of guys in one my races did it along with me. I messed up and ran out of fuel with 1 sector left, the other 2 did well finishing 2nd and 4th, not far off the win. They were driving a Genesis and Citroen respectively. I'd still say the 1 stop is quicker though.

Also shoutout to @watto79 who was in a couple of my races, though I don't think they went too well for him starting at the back.

 

[FUNanywhere]

Ah, gotcha. Possibly a driving style thing. I am very tempted for the FIA. I've got a nice Konica Minolta MotoGP inspired livery that desperately needs to see some action.



Kie25 just managed a no stop in a stream, yesterday. Citroën with some extreme fuel saving. Finished on 0% fuel.

Just had a race where kie started pole. The guy is fast. He spun i think and still finished 2nd. I started 18th and finished 10th. With a lobby full of A S and 2 S S, i was surprised nobody managed a 1:15. All of top 10 were in 1:16 spread.

Goodwood is simply amazing to race on. Although i think the penalty zone needs to be changed. There is very little room to pass a ghosted car while serving penalty. I dont trust ghosting at all. I always overtake rather than going through it.

 

[Tamamo_SE3P]

First two race C’s were pretty clean minus me eating the grass a few times. The third one... hectic.

 

[Doglove]

I always drove the Mustang before @Seaside. Now, i just can't get it under .40, while my best lap with the Mustang over there was a .38.9. The car feels very heavy and lomp now. I have bias -3 to the rear. Anyone also have this? Btw, now i'm doing .39.4's with the F1 Mclaren.

Just drove the GR Supra. As this is a car i never liked qua handling, i was close to my F1 Mclaren time, .39.4. I did a .39.6 with it. But no feel to improve.

 

[beegentoo]

Races get harder after so many successful attempts yesterday and today. My cats account is currently DR C about to make the transition to DR B. Started 4th but the usual TT-Rowdies ploughed through the field after not moving for about 2s after the lights went off. Finished 11th but still gained DR.

I guess I‘ll take a break today and do something entirely different.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

With Goodwood we finally got a race which rewards consistent, fluent driving.

Stay out of trouble, stay on the track, don‘t pass but use slipstream to save fuel.

I love it since racing like a crowbar doesn‘t work and drivers trying get taught to not try again.

True, if you're too busy bumping for position you'll screw up your exit on Fordwater or Lavant and totally tank your time.

 

[Leftcurl]

I’m going through a few cars putting Q laps in on dragon trail if anyone wants to see

hey i was racing with you last night. It was so frustrating, i was on my 2nd account (as i always do at the beginning of the week to get to grips with everything). Anyway, normally i'm loving Seaside... not any more... complete and utter puntfest. I know it's only 5 laps and a full on sprint, but T1 and people are dive bombing from about 4 or 5 cars back. Then there's the obligatory 3 second penalty for someone hitting you to consider.
I saw one of the races you were starting top 3, i was about 6th or so... after a couple of laps i'd been shunted to about 12th and i was behind you probably both suffered the same treatment.
Ah well, we go again.. maybe see you tonight!

 

[watto79]

Also shoutout to @watto79 who was in a couple of my races, though I don't think they went too well for him starting at the back.

Dude I had no idea I was with a fellow GTPlaneter! Indeed those races went v badly. Racing earlier in the day seems to match me with much higher rated drivers, so starting at the back was of no use. I kept making mistakes too which was very frustrating. Anyway having done some qualifying now (1:15.6) I had another go with some more evenly matched racers, and race number 617 gave me win number 18! Although it was under somewhat odd circumstances.

Basically someone was way ahead of everyone, and when they pitted they seemed to get stuck in the pits pulling some random wheelies where they stayed for the remainder of the race. I'd got into the lead and crossed the finish line with a 13 second gap. Then the results flicked up to show that whoever was stuck in the pits finished second less than 4/10ths behind me

Very odd, but I'll take the win regardless!

 

[Trone_Colby]

I think it definitely got worse. I was once on the giving end of a very bad case of misjudged braking - sent the guy to outer space, yet no penalty.

This week on Dragon Trail seems people are using this - ramming is bad, with no penalties in sight. And... Look at this, I got a 3s penalty for being hit from behind in Death Chicane. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong - I am with the Mazda. And the ukranian bloke didn't get a penalty for his constant ramming. Claimed he's on the racing line, which apparently is so, according to the Penalty System.

sorry for leaving the music on here...

He hit you then hit the wall due to his bad driving. The game thinks you hit him into it. Its a well known glitch. You can bump someone then immediately go off track or hit a wall and give the person you bumped the penalty.

I had that happen last week at brands. I had a good overspeed going through the final turn on the final lap about to pass someone. He literally hit me then purposely swerve off track giving me a 3 sec penalty right before crossing the finish line.

 

[05XR8]

All players but Huracan users are being courteous. Drafting and leaving room in the corners to keep up momentum. Sure, all is not perfect, but players are understanding, if you tap someone and they go off, that''s your penalty. I've been starting mid-pack rack each race. PLaying the long game and it's working. So far...

Huracan went off

Edit: See? Spoke too damn soon.
Start was fine. A bit of shuffling ahead of me. A 458 or some mid-engine car maybe Ferrari, goes to pass me up the inside at the final corner. GAve so much room and I was braking. Decides to move over to the left. Goes across my brow and off onto the grass. 4 seconds for me.

Next few laps, I'm hanging back behind an 86 that finished 2nd in my first race. It is out of shape out of the chicane. I take evasive action to the left. Its nose hits me perpendiculr as the rear tyres were on the grass. I get 4 seconds. Finished two places lower.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

The Mini feels WEIRD now, even on SH tires, it’s just too sticky.

I didn't see much discussion about Race A (understandable, I guess) but what do you mean by sticky, less flexible or smooth in handling? What's SH, Super Hard? The only change I noticed was not being able to hit 5th gear, everything else felt the same otherwise.

This post could be misinterpreted in a completely wrong way.

 

[sturk0167]

@Sven Jurgens, after I saw you and pulled off that sweet 14th place finish with a red S, I found something that works. Firstly, the low S group is not nearly as fast. And secondly, I found that the Lancer is the best car for me, in terms of staying on the track. It isn't fast, but it's really stable and controllable. It's also good on fuel and tire wear. It got me a 5th and a 6th. 👍

 

[Pigems]

I didn't see much discussion about Race A (understandable, I guess) but what do you mean by sticky, less flexible or smooth in handling? What's SH, Super Hard? The only change I noticed was not being able to hit 5th gear, everything else felt the same otherwise.

This post could be misinterpreted in a completely wrong way.

It just has more grip now(since the update I’m assuming) which makes the suspension feel softer I find, it used to slide a little more on SH(Sports Hard) tires from what I remember.

I thought I tried to hit 5th and got no reaction from the car, I thought it had a 5th gear?

 

[Franjo]

I haven't fired up GT Sport since they took manual out of the weekly races. Promptly got up to 4th last night on the Mini leaderboards (now 6th).

At first I was choked manual was taken out, but it's nice to know that it's all based on skill with everyone on even playing ground.

 

[05XR8]

Got my Top 10. Done for the nigh..err, early morning...

 

[Voodoovaj]

Yeah, I’ve tried it on a couple different occasions now without success. I may try it again this weekend with the new physics model, it seems that braking is a little more important now than before so maybe it will help a bit with consistency if I can get used to it. I can use it with my right foot and drive one footed as my right foot is used to a pressure based brake from Real driving, but not the left lol.

Go carts a re a wonderful thing for this since you have the left foot on the brake all the time. Even a local amusement park's go carts can help with this.

 

[Invisigoth]

Timber is for building...Wood is for burning. Pretty much sums up race C . As already posted I did some qualy laps with the trophy. 2s faster got me P9/18 on a mixed grid.

Race starts and I get away clean, but it's Gr4 soup and excuse me waiter? There's an Invisigoth in my soup ! The cornering for the first lap was 2 or 3 cars abreast. I got knocked off at T5 (the one after Fordwater). I went on a wild ride from the outside grass, across the track and onto the inside grass. Definitely shades of Big Willow . Eventually I was re-spawned and dropped from P10 to P17 (apparently last now). Next corner and grubby tyres have me off again . Burling down Lavant I had pulled aside to let as it turned out to be, the Porsche that knocked me off, past, got a rear tyre on the grass on the outside and careened across the track across the inside at Woodcoat. @Pigems , this spot has potential....

That pesky Cayman became the bane of my existence for the next 5 laps. I finally managed to get rid of him at the end of lap 6 when he veered off avoiding a ghosted car. I ended up within said ghosted car through the chicane. We both tried to separate but turned in the same direction. Finally a short way after the chicane we managed to go in opposite directions . It was lap 7 I realised I still had half a tank left, so I changed to fairly extreme short shifting to see if I could go the distance. I got past a couple of cars that had gone off but they passed me again ... both with 5s penalties.. you know what happened at the penalty zone... see ya suckas!

Ran my own race till lap 11 when I had managed to claw my way up to P8. Lap 13 I dropped down a peg having been passed by a fake6 who had been slowly closing in after an off. Got passed by another car, but he slid off. I was up to P8 again coming up to the final lap (I was now a back marker, there would have been 1 more lap to go). Because we were ghosted, the guy behind me, also ghosted took advantage and drove through me at the chicane to finish P8 .

SR blue, DR up just under 200. Another day above DR 1 .

 

[bone_tone]

It just has more grip now(since the update I’m assuming) which makes the suspension feel softer I find, it used to slide a little more on SH(Sports Hard) tires from what I remember.

I thought I tried to hit 5th and got no reaction from the car, I thought it had a 5th gear?

It only has 4 speed box this time - has been 5 speed every other time this event was run!

 

[watto79]

Sorted out my livery and followed up my win with a third and a second. It seems like I'm the only one even attempting to fuel save. I leave the fuel map alone and just short shift and slip stream but just this wins me bags of time when I pit. I saw some people pitting on lap 7 with single digit fuel left and I still had 25% in the tank. Top tip people, save fuel 👍

Anyway I must be doing something right as for the second time in my GT Sport career I'm now DR:A! Let's see how long it lasts this time

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

Sorted out my livery and followed up my win with a third and a second. It seems like I'm the only one even attempting to fuel save. I leave the fuel map alone and just short shift and slip stream but just this wins me bags of time when I pit. I saw some people pitting on lap 7 with single digit fuel left and I still had 25% in the tank. Top tip people, save fuel 👍

Anyway I must be doing something right as for the second time in my GT Sport career I'm now DR:A! Let's see how long it lasts this time

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Congrats mate!

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven Jurgens, after I saw you and pulled off that sweet 14th place finish with a red S, I found something that works. Firstly, the low S group is not nearly as fast. And secondly, I found that the Lancer is the best car for me, in terms of staying on the track. It isn't fast, but it's really stable and controllable. It's also good on fuel and tire wear. It got me a 5th and a 6th. 👍

I'm still hanging onto S despite quitting and doing something more productive when I get an unfair penalty. 80 SR now, will it be low enough to get away from the nose stickers

Nope, rammed off twice in lap 1, then a penalty from people door banging in front of me. Quit nr 4 today, back to work.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

It just has more grip now(since the update I’m assuming) which makes the suspension feel softer I find, it used to slide a little more on SH(Sports Hard) tires from what I remember.

I thought I tried to hit 5th and got no reaction from the car, I thought it had a 5th gear?

Now I feel .

I tried with both my wheel and controller and could only switch to 4th. It definitely had 5 gears before unless it got stealth nerfed. I haven't tried it outside the daily race so it could be BoP has lowered its power level further.

I've had a fun time so far in the Mini races. Lobbies have been super competitive which is a surprise. I know it's a repeat but I'd encourage people to try it out, at least.

Plus still the goof old, you are ahead on the inside yet the outside car drives into you like you aren't there and you get a penalty cause they bounce themselves off.

Yep, can confirm, it happened to me twice in my last race. Feels like you're handed penalties for others' mistakes. I got bump drafted, he loses control behind and drives himself off the track = 3 second penalty for me.