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He should spend more time practing than making these rediculous videos. It’s difficult to race clean with players like this.
If it were real life he would've been black flagged.
He should spend more time practing than making these rediculous videos. It’s difficult to race clean with players like this.
Which they are? Tapping the brakes at Frog Hollow despite already going slow enough to make the corner is my definition of much slower. Case in point, they still make the corner despite getting punted.unless the car in front is going much slower.
You have misunderstood my post. Yes they are going slower, that does not mean getting punted is their fault, their qually time is a massive 7sec slower than comparable DR B times in the lobby. They will drive the course differently.Which they are? Tapping the brakes at Frog Hollow despite already going slow enough to make the corner is my definition of much slower. Case in point, they still make the corner despite getting punted.
Get murdered in the cutting and get SR Down and 4 sec penalty for it. I lift of the gas for the slight left, he powers into me and still goes into the wall despite using me as a brake, then bump passes me into the wall again. He comes away clean, ridiculous system.
Or perhaps PD is on to something and society has it all wrong. We should fine shop keepers for getting shop lifted as they obviously don't protect their wares well enough. Put people whose house get broken into in jail for living in the wrong area / not having enough steel bars on the windows and doors. Fine drivers for driving near a drunk driver. Get hit by a drunk driver, jail time for you. You should know better than getting near those people.
That's it, punish the good people so they will clean up their act. Bad people will always be bad, no point punishing them right!
Daily Race C, 13:30 Room
Car Used: BMW Z4 GT3 '11 (Livery used)
Pole position! But then 3 drivers that could've acted as buffers got kicked out, leaving me having to defend the Smileyface GTI driven by @Hoof Arted. First stint went well, utilising the handling of the car on the mountain section, but I went really sloppy on the mountain during the In Lap. The Z4 was not the greatest of fuel savers so I went in with 19% fuel, while said GTI went in with 27% fuel! Because of that, he simply jumped me in the pits, and then a certain Makozi_Akademik, who sets the Fastest Lap of the race, decided to do an overcut, but I went past him on the run into T3, so his overcut didn't work against us. In the end though, it's GTP 1-2 with the Smileyface GTI taking the victory. At the end of the race, the gap between me and 3rd was at around 11 seconds!
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Daily Race C, 14:30 Room
Car Used: Jaguar F-type Gr.3 (Livery used)
Pole position, again! This time though, I was able to improve my qualy time by a margin using said car. It was slightly uneventful for myself as I cruise to victory, but there is some interesting competition from Sisters_Racing, who used a pink Beetle that advertises their YouTube channel, on the first few sectors, that is until they went too fast exiting Sulman Park. One thing to note is that they used an Automatic Transmission! As a consequence of not being able to short shift (though they could've used the Fuel Map), they ended up going into the pits with only 1% fuel left! It is also not helped by having a fellow AT user in an Aston battling with them. Because of that, the gap between me and 2nd is over 16 seconds!
You're putting words in my mouth. The slow driver is not game to be punted, at least not on purpose. But when you have someone as slow as that on a narrow track like Bathurst, accidents can happen. You can make the argument that faster drivers can't be that aggressive in real life, but then I can make the argument that someone who is 10 seconds per lap slower would be deemed too inept to race in real life.Edit: I am actually shocked that GTP members believe that a less skilled driver is game to be punted because they are not able to drive the course as quick as them.
I don't. The only bump that you can blame Sturk for in any way is the first one, and neither party is affected so it's just a racing incident. Second bump, complainer is 10mph slower than they should be going. Third bump, 20mph slower. Final bump, already in the wall. And they lost any credibility they might have had by acting like a certain c-word that would get me banned from GT Planet.

Correction - have now seen the first Ford GT win, but it was the guy currently in P2 on the European server!In terms of qualifying times, it's the Ford GT LM, but I haven't seen one win any of the races I've been in so far.
Winning cars seem to be quite diverse - I've seen the Beetle, the Corvette, Mustang, and the RC F all have wins.
There are plenty of straights to set up blasting past. Squeezing into gaps around the mountain following somebody who is erratic/slow is not the thing to do, no matter how slow they seem.
You can argue they need more practice and shouldn't enter the race, but it's public matchmaking. Anybody can jump in with zero practice. It's on the person following to adjust their driving.
You should avoid contact. "On purpose" is subjective anyway, but you cannot run your own pace following another driver. That is fact. You have to adapt to what is in front of you.
Do I think the yellow Corvette is slow? Yes
Should they be more familiar with the track before entering? Ideally yes
Could the SR system be better? Yes
Do I agree with them posting videos complaining, while they are doing themselves no favours by entering a race they clearly are not familiar with? No.
But if you can see somebody struggling, it's easy to just back off a little and wait for an opportunity. Trying to drive quick behind somebody like that, results in somebody losing out.
I don't believe that slower drivers deserve to be punted, and I never tried to wreck that guy. I'm definitely no superstar, myself. I fully understand being frustrated with the penalty system. He didn't deserve those SR downs.You have misunderstood my post. Yes they are going slower, that does not mean getting punted is their fault, their qually time is a massive 7sec slower than comparable DR B times in the lobby. They will drive the course differently.
Edit: I am actually shocked that GTP members believe that a less skilled driver is game to be punted because they are not able to drive the course as quick as them.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Near the beginning of the video, at 0:25 I hit that wall because I was trying to avoid hitting him. I've never tried to pass somebody at that spot. Going into a race, I rarely know who anybody is, or what to expect from them. I don't care about DR, but would like to have higher SR. I suppose a greater following distance would make sense.Yes he did over react badly, what did he expect jumping in like that fully unprepared. I checked his stats. That was his 16th sport race and very first on Mount Panorama. His best lap was a 2:18. It's matchmaking gone horribly wrong. There should be a big L next to his name in the race
However to maintain a 99 SR you will have to adjust as you did get quite lucky there. I easily end up with a 5 sec penalty from inexperienced drivers so it's mostly self preservation to keep more than a car length distance at all times and only move in when the risk is very low. The hardest spot is still the turn onto Conrod straight. It's the safest place to pass, yet some people are so bad at that turn that to avoid them you pretty much have to come to a complete stop ruining any chance at a better exit. Or when you do avoid them you're already passed them at the slight left after Forest's elbow, and they draft back up on the straight to try some irresponsible move.
When you start last, don't worry about the front getting away. If you want DR, qualify. Racing without qualifying is a different game and most rewarding when you come out without any contact or penalties. There are races where I never get to stretch my legs and always drive under my pace. Yet that means the whole race was fun. Trying to predict what the car in front is going to do and indeed also put a bit of pressure here and there. You don't need to be that close to put the pressure on though, most people get quite nervous when you are matching their every move, keeping the same distance no matter what, occasionally feigning a pass to move right back behind. Sometimes it feels like a fencing match except the objective here is not to touch. The longer it takes to pass a car the better it feels to pass them clean and then speed away.
Cars catching up from behind can be a problem. They can be fun to watch as well. Let them have a crack at trying to pass the erratic driver, chances are they'll either take each other out or the impatient driver will end up with a penalty and the obstacle has been cleared![]()
...so you are prepared for the not-so-kind reactions also - I guess.I understand what you're saying, but in the racing context, I guess I'm not as kind as you are.
You never have to. Just make a good qualy time and you are the one who can pull away. Without qualy what is your laptime, and what is it telling to the opponents at the start of the race? Let's look at it from the others' side, if we are making predictions from the laptime of the newbie.... but I'm not gonna just slow match his erratic and unpredictable pace, while the cars in front pull away, and the cars behind catch up.
You predict he is slow. You see he is not a trained racer. Why on earth you even think about any pressure, I can't see. He has his own problems to solve without you and your pressure. You are able to pass him basically anytime. Is it really a "trophy" or any kind of achievement to race a slow newcomer?... I stayed close behind to put the pressure on ...
You bet. Fair is fair....so you are prepared for the not-so-kind reactions also
I had the Fastest Lap for that race.Without qualy what is your laptime
I wish I had saved the replay. If the video had the perspective from my car, it would look like I was being brake-checked.Let's look at it from the others' side
I didn't save the replay because the race was completely unremarkable. Nothing was out of the ordinary. The reason for my post was to illustrate what a nut that guy is. Those kind of bumps happen in every race.I don't understand the problem, which seem to me that you searched for, for yourself.
It's the first time I comment in this forum, but I gotta say, I really don't agree with the complaints I see here about the penalty system. If anything, the system is too lenient sometimes. You can have 2 or 3 incidents in the same race and still be comfortably in S. I do agree that sometimes it can be tough in lower SR races, but once I've got to S, I didn't find it hard to stay there. The problem that I see very often is people driving in the first lap with the same lines they do in qualifying. If you do that every race you're obviously going to have trouble.
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These 2 panalties together with the other SR Downs I got from draft bumpers put me down to SR 74.
So next race I start with the SR.A crowd, still driving from the back. I try my best to avoid the slow inexperienced wobbly drivers, get bumped from behind a couple times while in traffic yet don't hit anyone myself and finish 2nd. I only gain 4 SR for my efforts to 77.
Next 2 races are even worse for matchmaking:
In the first race the car in front forces me to almost come to a stop after which I naturally get rammed from behind, 4 sec penalty for meI'm about to rage quit yet I press on, manage to avoid everyone else for the rest of the race and finish 3rd, still lose 5 SR, down to 73
The second race (starting at 1:30) I get stuck behind another wobbly excruciatingly slow car. I can't avoid him in Forest's elbow where he's turning on his nose scraping against the wall with traffic behind me. Luckily the penalty system 'glitches' and for once I don't get a penalty for someone else's bad driving. He turns right instead of left at the end of lap 1 giving me room to continue on to 3rd place with clean race bonus! +13 SR to 86. (Max is 15, so that contact still took 2 SR yet no SR Down thus clean race bonus)
Wow, these drivers actually drive as if they had never driven the track. Very slow us also very uncertain and unpredictable. Those who are stuck behind such drivers have already lost. Of course you can drive slowly yourself and wait for your chance. But even then you are often hit because either the front man makes a mistake, defends himself or driver rammed you from behind. You have experienced that yourself. We all started and were slow. That's why I do not blame these drivers for the situation. The matchmaking has failed here. But maybe the program should also point out such riders to practice the track or play the circuit experience before taking part in an online race.
I've seen worse lol. One race, lap 2, driver in front of me (no one in front of him) goes straight at Hell corner...
Yes, I've done that too, when I first drove the track off-line a long time ago.
One solution would be to lock out the track until you complete the circuit experience with at least bronze. Of course it doesn't help that PD doesn't add the circuit experience for new tracks until the next patchCatalunya day one will be fun.
The problem is not that it is too lenient (it is) or too harsh, the problem is that it is more often punishing the wrong player instead of the aggressive driver that only knows how to stick to their qualifying lines. Tell me with a straight face that I deserve a 4 sec penalty here and red SR while the car 'passing' me gets a blue S after punting me into the wall, then using me as a cornering aid.
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I don't know what races you are in where you can have 2 or 3 incidents and still be comfortably in S... That's not my experience lately. One 4 or 5 sec penalty, entirely not your fault, is enough to get a red S. Sure you can survive a couple SR Downs, which are dished out completely upside down as well.
Yeah, that penalty was ********. I was talking more in terms of SR points than time penalties. I think a better solution would be harsher penalties in terms of points, tighter DQ limit and possibly getting rid of time penalties for crashing. Assholes would still exist and would still ruin races, but they would be in bottom races in no time.
Time penalties will always be problematic. It's very hard to get it right and situations like yours are almost inevitable. IRacing is probably the best system out there because it's harder to get your license up if you're using people as brakes.
That guy should sit his ass down and learn that track before he’s a moving blockade for every other driverHe should spend more time practing than making these rediculous videos. It’s difficult to race clean with players like this.