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I did that last time, can’t get times in ts 050.
Then again I’m not the best at Lemans, plus I WANT tire wear. The more the better!
The idea that certain cars wear tires is sorta true, but it’s a lot more to do with driver than people commonly believez
The 962 can do it, it’s already been proven. The 962 keeps up good on acceleration but you gotta hook it up on exit not come out with wheelspin which means carrying a bit of momentum also, you can’t drive the way 95 percent of people do bumper to bumper all in the same car driving the same way their you tuber of choice said to.
You can in 962 stay in draft on exit if you’re smooth of ts050.
The more tire wear the better imo. The fact you mention tire wear shows me you haven’t used the car. Plus most people don’t manage fuel correctly their shift points are all wrong at fm1.
Just because people make tactical errors using the car doesn’t mean the car is deficient. The ts050 is brainless.
Others have said it and done it. (gotten podium). Tbh the biggest problem you have if qualifying in that car is ts050 drivers bashing you lap 1. For a CLEAN race starting up front with EQUAL skill in both cars anything can happen imo.
It’s sad that the meta mentality results in people in the ‘meta’ treating other players carelessly and punting them.
Yes, if you just want to hop in something that doesn’t reward a bit more tactical thinking and race take a hybrid.
Just don’t discount the 962 as a vehicle because most drivers try to use it like other cars.
See the comment from @bdubclub. I dunno if you’ve raced him a lot, but I’ve raced him several times and he’s very very competent in cars of this nature. He has proved the idea.
Last time we had this, I found the car competitive. Others do too.
There’s more depth to many cars in the game, you can’t just run a few laps in one and conclude it’s a dog.
The other one I’ve seen that I don’t know the secret to is 787b. There’s drivers out there that can compete with that car also.
Imo people need to keep open minds and think for themselves not just clone whatever the pundits tell them.
How can YOU do best? How do YOU get the times?
This game isn’t just copy you tuber x.
There’s many ways to get times, just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it’s de facto impossible.
Good discussion tho definitely. :)
Wow, what a discussion I missed out on! I have to agree with @RacingGrandpa and @Groundfish . Its not just about the META or even the ultimate skill of the driver. There are a lot of guys here that can spank me in most combo's, yet sometimes a track, a car, or the combo just works for me, and I can drive at a level way above my DR. I hate front drivers, I like cars that oversteer a bit on throttle. I like cars that turn in well (who doesn't!) I tend to be overly agressive (in game), so have a tendancy to get in too hot, and overdrive the car. Some cars do really well when driven fast and loose, some need to be "stuck" all the time and be driven extremely smoothly. Loose is fun, which is why I avoid TCS...and I like the challenge. Is the 050 the fastest way around 5 laps with these settings...for the ultimate alien...maybe. Is it the fastest way around for all high B or even A drivers? I don't believe that. Just going by my own experience, I can say that some cars, some types of cars, just work better for me, with my driving style. We are not machines, so we all have different styles and preferences. If this wasn't true, then drivers in the real world would all end up with the same set-up on the same racecars, because it would be "fastest", yet how many times have you heard of a driver who got into a "fast car" and found it almost undrivable until playing with settings to get it where they want. Going fast is about feel, and if a car, no matter how fast (theoretically) over a race, doesn't feel right, or inspire trust for the driver, it won't be the fastest for that driver.

I love beating cars/drivers using "slower"cars that (supposedly) can't win.
 
Ill go work on your DTS time, haha.
Believe I had the BB at 1 to the front on the AMG for that time, then switch to the 911 for the race since it's way more consistent for me. Didn't think of trying the AMG until a guy driving one behind me shaved off 0.6s between final turn and T1. Braking requires a bit more finesse with it... smaller window of error than with the 911.
 
Is Race A worth trying this week? I keep thinking Tokyo Wet isn’t something that works for most people. Heck, I feel like I have a hard enough time racing there when it’s dry. But then again, the cars are only in N200.
I asked BenRod about race A yesterday. He said it was pretty rough. I think he was referring to dealing with the other drivers, rather than the track or car. I'll probably give it a try, eventually.
 
I asked BenRod about race A yesterday. He said it was pretty rough. I think he was referring to dealing with the other drivers, rather than the track or car. I'll probably give it a try, eventually.

I just hope they either omit the Tokyo Expressway tracks in the next game, or fix them somehow, because I really don’t think they work. They’re too narrow and there aren’t any run-off areas, so I’d be content if GT Sport was the first and last time we saw them, at least like this. Even the South course has issues. I really don’t know who could think these tracks were good for online racing, considering how most people cannot drive well online. Turn 1 is always a goddamn mess. What am I supposed to do if I qualify towards the middle, drop down into last before T1?
 
I asked BenRod about race A yesterday. He said it was pretty rough. I think he was referring to dealing with the other drivers, rather than the track or car. I'll probably give it a try, eventually.
I raced 2 races there yesterday. I'll definitely be back. I did turn on TCS (3) for the second, and it was a different race. Way less chance of spinning with contact. @sturk0167 , I think it's right up your alley. With a good group, a lot of fun.
Edit: It was the first race, in anything, that I used TCS that I can remember. :lol:
 
I just hope they either omit the Tokyo Expressway tracks in the next game, or fix them somehow, because I really don’t think they work. They’re too narrow and there aren’t any run-off areas, so I’d be content if GT Sport was the first and last time we saw them, at least like this. Even the South course has issues. I really don’t know who could think these tracks were good for online racing.
I think they are. Clean racing on those walled highways are super fun
 
I think they are. Clean racing on those walled highways are super fun

Most people, in my experience, don’t race clean. They just dive-bomb T1 and go all over the place. Even if I’m careful in approaching T1, I worry about getting punted all over like it’s pinball by braindead kids. Maybe I should try again just to confirm.
 
I'm impressed with any one that can be fast while BB I up front with the FR cars. I need the BB rear to trailbrake but it costs me on initial straight line braking.
I spent a lot of practice time on this one and managed 39.8 with the 911 (BB 0 or 1 to rear, both similar) and 39.5 with the AMG. Tried every BB from -3 to +3. Not sure if it's normal or just my driving style, but FR cars with front BB allow for a good jolt on exit speed than otherwise. Granted, my break-in has to be absolutely perfect to get that punch out; if I break just a few meters too late, I'm screwed.
 
I love beating cars/drivers using "slower"cars that (supposedly) can't win.
This is my favorite past time. Put me in a mid-pack car, let me race clean and I'll move up a few spots as others make mistakes. If I qualify first and win, that's not nearly as rewarding as fighting through the pack.

I just hope they either omit the Tokyo Expressway tracks in the next game, or fix them somehow, because I really don’t think they work.
The only one I ever liked was R246. It had a few squeeze points but there was enough space through most sections to race each other. The tracks are great for street racing and garbage time lobbies, but they shouldn't be part of online competition. There is just too much chance with the way cars bounce off the walls and penalties are handed out to drivers that did nothing wrong.
 
I just hope they either omit the Tokyo Expressway tracks in the next game, or fix them somehow, because I really don’t think they work. They’re too narrow and there aren’t any run-off areas, so I’d be content if GT Sport was the first and last time we saw them, at least like this. Even the South course has issues. I really don’t know who could think these tracks were good for online racing, considering how most people cannot drive well online. Turn 1 is always a goddamn mess. What am I supposed to do if I qualify towards the middle, drop down into last before T1?

I like them and find I'm often pretty quick at walled Street circuits. It's led me to believe that I'm not as quick at other circuits because I'm not as good at abusing track limits as some are. That's not an option when there's walls :)

Idiots will divebomb I to turn 1 everywhere. You can't really blame the track for that!
 
Is Race A worth trying this week? I keep thinking Tokyo Wet isn’t something that works for most people. Heck, I feel like I have a hard enough time racing there when it’s dry. But then again, the cars are only in N200.
I asked BenRod about race A yesterday. He said it was pretty rough. I think he was referring to dealing with the other drivers, rather than the track or car. I'll probably give it a try, eventually.

If you don't like the Toyobaru twins, you won't like this race.
If you don't like the Tokyo layouts, you won't like this race.
If you don't like the wet racing, you won't like this race.

It didn't take me too long to figure out the conditions despite being the first time I've competed while wet. I happen to like the BRZ, and I enjoy East Outer Loop. The rain, however, adds a dimension that is new to me, but my driving style allowed me to adapt relatively easily. Since the car is naturally tail-happy, it's a matter of controlling the very subtle slide without going full drift while conversely also managing the incredible understeer.
THINK AHEAD -- you must plan for the corner EXIT... it is more important than entry.

As for the racing, it isn't too bad if your consistent and patient. What is bad is the crappy 5 second wall penalty, and it's made worse by the drivers who either know exactly where and how to wall-ride or their connection is so bad it doesn't register. I so much as brush a wall and BOOM! Bad Benny! And I've been getting phantom SR downs in Turn 1 - no contact, no penalty, just SR down, still clean... which I suspect may be a ghosting issue with the bombers flying through, perhaps under caution, or maybe weaving/blocking... I don't know.

I do chuckle sometimes while crawling around the hairpin at 20mph, alternating between mad understeer and tail-snap wheelspin, watching those around me doing the same.

Oh, and one more thing... the yellow barrels in the hairpin are absolutely LETHAL, so weaponize at your own risk.
 
I raced 2 races there yesterday. I'll definitely be back. I did turn on TCS (3) for the second, and it was a different race. Way less chance of spinning with contact. @sturk0167 , I think it's right up your alley. With a good group, a lot of fun.
Edit: It was the first race, in anything, that I used TCS that I can remember. :lol:
Yep, same here... first time I've ever used TCS during competition -- set at 1.
 
Over the last weeks I did not participate in any Sports-Mode races. Partly due to the state of the penalty system, partly because of Covid-19 related bureaucracy, Homeoffice etc. But If I enjoyed a few laps, I ran in cockpit mode exlusively. Outcome: I now feel unsecure with Hood or Bumper cam.

Today was the first day since weeks when I really wanted to race and was looking out for it the whole day. I was enjoying a few warm-up laps in the Toyota to get used to its cockit when I stumbled over a silly bug in Arnage: the track limits are broken:

No track limit penalty:
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Track limit penalty:
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My best Q-Attempt was a 3:33 in a Porsche 919 HY but seeing the broken penalties with no other cars around makes me wonder if it‘s good to start at all.
 
For anybody else who is using group C cars at LeMans, and an X button throttle, I just discovered they you can go faster with TCS 3 than with TCS 2. 👍
My best lap so far, has been with BB -2 and TCS 3.

*Edit. May not work the same with other driving inputs.
 
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Over the last weeks I did not participate in any Sports-Mode races. Partly due to the state of the penalty system, partly because of Covid-19 related bureaucracy, Homeoffice etc. But If I enjoyed a few laps, I ran in cockpit mode exlusively. Outcome: I now feel unsecure with Hood or Bumper cam.

Today was the first day since weeks when I really wanted to race and was looking out for it the whole day. I was enjoying a few warm-up laps in the Toyota to get used to its cockit when I stumbled over a silly bug in Arnage: the track limits are broken:

No track limit penalty:
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Track limit penalty:
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My best Q-Attempt was a 3:33 in a Porsche 919 HY but seeing the broken penalties with no other cars around makes me wonder if it‘s good to start at all.
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There are some really weird track limits at Le Mans, none more so than at the first chicane. I can only guess there (now I've finally realised you're not at Mulsanne!) that you're off the throttle on the wider instance. Plenty get away with track limit penalties by backing out of it
 
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I hope not, Tokyo Expressway is an interesting diversion from 'standard' tracks. I've had many memorable races there, it really shines when you stumble across a clean group of people to race with. I for one would be sad to see it go and it looks great at night.

I guess. But aren’t clean racers rare? Unless you somehow make the highly unlikely requirement to reach DR A.
 
Thanks to idiots in Sunday night's North American FIA races dropping my SR to A, I had to race a Daily C race today. That went well, thanks to a couple of stupid Brazilians. I thought it was maybe the ones who'd only joined GTS recently, but no, they had 462 and 255 days logged on! Now I've gone from B/A to B/B:censored:🤬🤬
 
I've been turning the headlights off on the Toyota, my theory is that the electricity you save there is more useful as part of the hybrid boost. I'm pretty sure it's not an actual thing that works but it sounds just about stupid enough to be plausible.

:lol: You might also consider turning of air condition as well as the radio as this also has quite an effect on the range of a race car unless you are driving a perpetuum mobile like the tesla in gts.
 
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There are some really weird track limits at Le Mans, none more so than at the first chicane. I can only guess there (now I've finally realised you're not at Mulsanne!) that you're off the throttle on the wider instance. Plenty get away with track limit penalties by backing out of it
i find in the 1st chicane before dunlap on the left hander you need 2 on the strip 2 on the blacktop. On the right hander you can get away with the left sides being on the rumble strip to get a more of a straight line out
 
This discussion about group C cars is funny for me. Some of you guys saying "I take group C car, it is fun, blah blah, toyota is boring blah blah" yeah right... So why you create alt accounts? I got one account, and every time I race I wanna be as fast as possible, real fun is winning, not only participating... And for me someone whos saying that he race for fun,not winning, lies.. Dont get me wrong, its not about win at all cost but why make things harder and choose worse car? What is "fun" in creating alt account where youre matched with people with much lower skills and then beat them in xjr for example? If it is for "fun" as some of you saying, use your main account which you using fo FIA races, be a man, take a risk! Or just dont lie to yourself and others...
I've actually "deleted" my alt accounts. However, I've always raced Group C cars using my main account.
Those cars are a joy for me. Not only can I see out when in cockpit, the shifting animations are cool as well. The sounds of the cars are what get me the most. The top speeds are standard features.
 
I've actually "deleted" my alt accounts. However, I've always raced Group C cars using my main account.
Those cars are a joy for me. Not only can I see out when in cockpit, the shifting animations are cool as well. The sounds of the cars are what get me the most. The top speeds are standard features.
I actually dont do alot of FIA races. But my other 2 accts are both A/S bordering on A+ ( 46,000 & 47,000)
I try and level them up as fast as possible. I just alternate between them trying to keep them all up.
 
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