DLC in GT5?

[Smoke&Slide]

True, i'll pay a fver for say 2 tracks & about 8-10 cars.Does that sound better Shirakawa ?.

 

[stig's helmet]

i'd like the veyron supersport and a few other new cars and tracks, so i say yes to dlc.

 

[shirakawaa]

That already sounds like a much more reasonable pricing, I would personally pay that much for GT5 DLC (even though on the long run they will never be competitive cost-wise to the content a stand-alone game) with that amount of content.
However SCE executives are a greedy bunch. Seeing how much trivial DLC for other games cost (costumes, themes, downloadable game music, etc), I seriously doubt that for five (pounds or euro?) we would get that much.

I guess we'll have to wait and see...

 

[captaincrunch24]

I hope PD provides us with some DLC packs for more premium cars.

 

[Berkyt]

DLC - this is good, but i don't know - can i buy this DLC or not -_-
Good have a choise

 

[Sasek]

DLC:
-for more premium cars, (standard ---changing to---> premium)
-for more tracks,
-for more car customisation (rims, liveries etc.)

 

[GyverX]

Please forgive me if this has already been posted.

Download Content…

That’s a big thing to consider and I have thought about it like from Different Aspects.

I heard somewhere the game is going to be 3 Blue Ray discs. Even if that is not true, 1 BD disc holds 25 gigs.
How Much does a Premium Car cost in the way of Megs? How about Standard cars that do not have an interior?

So, lets take a hypothetical look at this. The Sim is 1 year old, and there are – lets say – 25 downloadable cars that are not on the disks. You get into a quick race and all 16 players have different cars that no one else has bought or downloaded. Each person will have to download 15 cars at a given megabyte of 5 to 15. (I’m spit balling) that 75 to 225 megs to download before the race. The big difference of DLC of this game compared to a game like Modnations or Little Big Planet are, the models are less complex, and in the case of Modnations, most of the textures are all ready built in. With out and extensive interview with some of the creators or Creator of GT5 it’s a hard idea to speculate.

Having the DLC for the sim would be great for both parties (Consumer and producer) GT5 took a lot of years to build and to get right. GT5P helped wet our appetites but should of help in the money aspect of sales for PD. DLC helps keeps the interest there that GT4 could not have.

How long until the next GT sim? Who pays for it? DLC could help keep the NASCAR type of racing to keep the models that are used for the latest season, Sponsor Updates, and the new racing model in the next Le Mans season. This would create more space on your Hard Drive to be taken up but with all the Space that my son has taken up with everything I have bought for him for LBP, Its just the way of the PS3 and X-Box for that matter.

The Idea of DLC has so many implications but in the long run would be the best idea for both parties.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

I would prefer the periodic release of expansion discs--loaded with extra content / features--to be hand-delivered by Jessica Lopez wearing naught but a wet GT5 T-shirt.

Barring that, I suppose I'd be willing to pay for DLC.

 

[Brando-K]

What about DLC updates every month or 2.
Say au$10/ us$7.50 for 2 new tracks or for 10-15 cars or a mixture of 1 track and 5 (or so) cars.
I think that sort of update would be good.
Updates from Standard to premium should be cheaper (au$5 for 40-50 cars being updated), as I'm more interested in racing than looking at the pretty pretty cars insides while racing

And I do realise how long it takes to design a track for GT5, but with heaps of people downloading it they will make their money back

 

[Berkyt]

Yes, this is good. But i'm not sure, that would be this cost...

 

[Mr Frappy]

Yes, as long as they're free, or they don't cost outrageous prices as with other games.
Even 1$/car is too much, considering the content included with GT5.
I'm all for "packs" or "expansions", not for individual downloads made to rip off people (by making them paying the game hundreds of dollars over time, rather than all at once. That's like slow poison vs a backstab). In the case of GT5 it also has to considered that there might be tracks/cars that one might have never considered using until trying them out, and surely (at least sane/normal people) people don't usually throw money on DLC randomly just to try something.
Sorry for the general tone of my message. I really hate what DLC have become over time.

See, my take on this is that DLC is purely optional - nobody is making people buy anything. If you don't want it, or don't like the price, don't buy it. There is certainly no need to go buying everything just because it is for a game you like, and no need to feel sorry for yourself if you "would like it" but decide not to buy it for whatever reason. Likewise, if you do go buying everything and spend hundreds more on the game over time, you only have yourself to blame.

When GT5 ships it is going to be a huge game, and the need for DLC, certainly in the first few weeks of release is not necessary. I can see us getting a bit of free DLC near Christmas maybe. After that, it'll be paid DLC for the most part, and I'd be more than happy to pay £1 per car if you could choose them individually instead of in packs.

 

[HaRdLiNeR]

CTznOfTime
If DLC is free, then YES! just like with GT5-P or TT.

But paid DLC...?! FORGET IT! Count me out...

yeah one hand, you're right.
But if there will be a big package, maybe with 40 or 50 new premium cars and some new track, every 6 or 8 months.. I would pay for it if the price is not too high!

small dlc with 3 or 5 premium cars should be for free!

So yes! i would like to have some dlc

in my opinion DLC make sense in a racing game! because every year a lot of new cars come on the market and with DLCs you have the possibility to integrate them and keep the game up to date!

 

[Berkyt]

and I'd be more than happy to pay £1 per car if you could choose them individually instead of in packs.

Interestingly. So even easier, because often some car don't need...

 

[Mr Frappy]

small dlc with 3 or 5 premium cars should be for free!

If 3 or 5 cars should be free, why should 40 or 50 cost money? By your logic, any number of premium cars should be free. I guess this is why some people are successful in business and others are not!

"Here you go sir, we spent 6 months modelling this car for you, but here, have it for nothing"...

 

[analog]

If 3 or 5 cars should be free, why should 40 or 50 cost money? By your logic, any number of premium cars should be free. I guess this is why some people are successful in business and others are not!

"Here you go sir, we spent 6 months modelling this car for you, but here, have it for nothing"...

What if the car manufacturer paid PD partly for including their newly released car model by DLC?
Or what if more people buy GT5 simply for realising it offers free DLC?
Maybe keeping the existing customers happy and loyal to the series in the long run is an argument for offering free DLC?
Business has different models and strategies, it's not that clear cut.

 

[Berkyt]

If 3 or 5 cars should be free, why should 40 or 50 cost money? By your logic, any number of premium cars should be free. I guess this is why some people are successful in business and others are not!

Mb do 2 pack-version. Small and advanced - first free, second - premium.
Small pack - seldom... for holiday.

 

[HaRdLiNeR]

Mr Frappy
If 3 or 5 cars should be free, why should 40 or 50 cost money? By your logic, any number of premium cars should be free. I guess this is why some people are successful in business and others are not!

"Here you go sir, we spent 6 months modelling this car for you, but here, have it for nothing"...

I was talking about a BIG pack with a lot of premium cars and race tracks! which take a lot of time and money for PD!

such small DLC with 3 or 5 cars they should create for free.. in that sense as analog said it!

analogMaybe keeping the existing customers happy and loyal to the series

a large package that has taken a lot of work (maybe some months) and has employed many people.. which is published as a large DLC with maybe some new stuff like drag race etc.. i will pay for it if i really like it!
so i didnt said every DLC should be for free! it would be great but not durable for long for PD!

and you should read all comments to the end..

I would pay for it if the price is not too high!
because every year a lot of new cars come on the market and with DLCs you have the possibility to integrate them and keep the game up to date!

 

[kjb]

I have no problem with DLC. If its free that's fine it is not that fine too. I am not required to buy it. If they required you to pay for updates I would have a problem with that.

 

[lalaurentide]

Yes, as long as Polyphony doesn't ask me to pay too much for content they are working on for GT6, therefore asking me/us to pay twice for it, like Turn 10 is outrageously doing with Forza 4 cars.

 

[Mr Frappy]

What if the car manufacturer paid PD partly for including their newly released car model by DLC?
Or what if more people buy GT5 simply for realising it offers free DLC?
Maybe keeping the existing customers happy and loyal to the series in the long run is an argument for offering free DLC?
Business has different models and strategies, it's not that clear cut.

Yep, very good point - sponsored content from a particular manufacturer could certainly be offered for free. I never said that all DLC will be paid, just the vast majority of it. I fully expect there to be some free DLC direct from PD/SONY to keep fans sweet, but when I am asked to pay for it, I will not be too disappointed when I see that it costs £1 or whatever per car, or £5 for a new track for example.

 

[GyverX]

Well, I hate to add to the flame but there are a few things that are left out and not thought about. 1 being: If PD create any new car for what ever reason, someone has to pay for the licensing fee to create that car. Unless the DLC is sponsored by some company I really do not see a whole lot of free DLC in 2011

 

[shirakawaa]

As I previously stated, I'm not against paid DLC in general - I'm against ridiculously priced DLC. 30 euro for 70 cars and 6 tracks like GT5 Prologue in the european Playstation Store? That is acceptable for me. Just price the individual features accordingly and I'm ok with it (this means that 0.40 euro per car - 30 euro / 70 and that excludes tracks included in the game price - already starts being too much in my opinion).

 

[analog]

Well, I hate to add to the flame but there are a few things that are left out and not thought about. 1 being: If PD create any new car for what ever reason, someone has to pay for the licensing fee to create that car. Unless the DLC is sponsored by some company I really do not see a whole lot of free DLC in 2011

I don't know how this whole licencing works or if PD ( or any developer ) has to indeed pay for obtaining them all the time or if it only extends to the brands and not necessarily the models of that brand.
Sure they must get permission to model each car perhaps ( depending on their licence contract I assume ) but once they have an agreement and a warm relationship with that manufacturer adding new or old models of that brand probably doesn't have to cost much or cost anything at all.
GT and other driving games are also, don't forget, a great ( and largely free of cost to the car manufacturer ) way to promote their cars and brand heritage or history in a way no other medium is able to.
Some might be more than willing to supply data and permission, or even ask to be included, for free just to get enormous worldwide exposure without much effort and costs on their part.

Oh and just to be clear, I won't expect all DLC to be free, maybe ( purely an assumption ) GT6 will arrive in 2 versions: one being the complete game with all content ( including all content made available by DLC ) whilst the other one will be a simpler version for a reduced price where you could import all the DLC and GT5 content already paid for ( an upgrade turning GT5 into GT6 ).

 

[Joie de vivre!]

i doubt there'll be any dlc, since kaz said, there wont be any

i think he'll focus on gt6 to release it with things that's gonna be missed in gt5 for example cockpit view and porsches

 

[eSZee]

i doubt there'll be any dlc, since kaz said, there wont be any

i think he'll focus on gt6 to release it with things that's gonna be missed in gt5 for example cockpit view and porsches

I know you're wrong but, can you please provide a link. I'll wait.

 

[starcarper]

dave_sz is this the quote you're after.

The creator of Sony's Gran Turismo franchise, Kazunori Yamauchi, has hinted in a recent interview that there will be no DLC for Gran Turismo 5 when it releases next year.

When asked about the racing games possible DLC, this is what he had to say:

"Let me be clear on this. There is a massive amount of content in this game, I don't think there are many teams that can put as much into a game as we can."

"The launch of the game isn't a start, we are releasing the full game."

"Everything we want to put in the game is on the disc when it ships, having said that, we do have a sizable online team that will look after it once it's launched."

Looks like the only updates you will need for GT5 will be in the form of online patches. Which if you ask me, is really good news.

Taken from here.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/5928/yamauchi-talks-gran-turismo-5-dlc/

 

[GyverX]

dave_sz is this the quote you're after.

The creator of Sony's Gran Turismo franchise, Kazunori Yamauchi, has hinted in a recent interview that there will be no DLC for Gran Turismo 5 when it releases next year.

When asked about the racing games possible DLC, this is what he had to say:

"Let me be clear on this. There is a massive amount of content in this game, I don't think there are many teams that can put as much into a game as we can."

"The launch of the game isn't a start, we are releasing the full game."

"Everything we want to put in the game is on the disc when it ships, having said that, we do have a sizable online team that will look after it once it's launched."

Looks like the only updates you will need for GT5 will be in the form of online patches. Which if you ask me, is really good news.

Taken from here.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/5928/yamauchi-talks-gran-turismo-5-dlc/

I remember reading this quote. It said to me that even if they do make DLC it wont be till 2011, And even with that it would be awhile. I would suspect that KY will do another interview in a short time after launch and the question will come up again. One of the things you will have to look out for is to see how popular the NASCAR part of the game will be. If its popular as they want it to be then they could update the NASCAR cars for the next season seeing how this season is about to end. Its a thought.

 

[frewin69]

if you ask me, i see no problem at all with downloadable content. it's nothing but a good thing...

if you don't want to expand your game and buy the latest cars, tracks etc. that have been released, then you don't have to. however, if you do, and you are interested by it, then you can.

there should still, of course, be periodic, free world-wide updates giving you a few new cars, tracks and general updating of the game, whilst any optional downloadable content should NOT be charged extortionately. if PD charge £3-a-car, no-one will buy it. if, however, cars are £0.99 each, then i'm sure a ****load of buyers and be better off for it!

all in all, it's a win-win situation if you are given the opportunity to keep your game as up-to-date as you wish! if you don't want to, then you do not have to!

not to mention it'd be a great way for PD to make some extra cash...

JUST DON'T CHARGE TOO MUCH!!!

 

[fade]

I guess there are 2 routes they could take with GT5.

1) Release GT5 and then focus on GT6.
2) Continue to add to GT5, gradually making it better and even more untouchable.

If they chose option 2, I don't mind, it would almost be a good thing, I would rather hear "x problems will be fixed in upcoming patch" than "x problems will be fixed in a few years when GT6 comes out."

But then again, I wouldn't want to spend more than 50% of the cost of the game on DLC throughout the games lifespan.

I guess I will be able to answer better when I actually play the final GT5 product.

 

[White & Nerdy]

This is a great idea. Add new tracks every month or so and endurance races every three... that would be awesome as long as they don't charge like $20 a pack. 24 Hours of LeMons (look it up, but beware of multiple offensive team names) in GT would be great.