Do you believe in God?

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Do you believe in god?

  • Of course, without him nothing would exist!

    Votes: 626 30.5%
  • Maybe.

    Votes: 368 17.9%
  • No way!

    Votes: 1,059 51.6%

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Faith in religion, or God, is not the only faith. For instance, a lot of cars stop behind me at stop lights; As they approach I have faith they will stop.

You trust that they will stop. Faith is belief without proof. Trust is believing something based on similar past experiences. In the past, cars have stopped behind you at lights. This makes you trust that they will again.

God is real because we have GT5

Glad that's cleared up now. Go ahead and close this thread mods :rolleyes:
 
You trust that they will stop. Faith is belief without proof. Trust is believing something based on similar past experiences. In the past, cars have stopped behind you at lights. This makes you trust that they will again.
Trust is a synonym for faith. More precisely, faith is trust without proof. Tell me how I can prove a car will stop.
http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+faith&qpvt=faith+def&FORM=DTPDIA

So, yes, I trust the car will stop. Due to no proof it will stop that feeling has now morphed into faith. Furthermore, trust has nothing to do with the past, but rather the future.
 
Trust is a synonym for faith. More precisely, faith is trust without proof. Tell me how I can prove a car will stop.
http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+faith&qpvt=faith+def&FORM=DTPDIA

So, yes, I trust the car will stop. Due to no proof it will stop that feeling has now morphed into faith. Furthermore, trust has nothing to do with the past, but rather the future.

I suppose that trust could be considered one component of faith, but I wouldn't consider them to be direct synonyms.

BTW, the site you linked to defines faith as "belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof."

To me, this is where they diverge. Personally, I trust in things based upon the logic of my past experiences. For example, I trust my fiance because she has a long history of making good decisions concerning our relationship, not just out of blind wishful thinking. Hence the term "earn your trust."

I trust that a car isn't going to rear-end me at a light because past experience tells me it will stop. I trust that they will continue to do so. There's a logical basis for that trust, namely experience.

By the definition you provided, faith is not based on logic.

Another saying wraps up what I'm getting at: "Trust is earned, faith is given."
 
You trust that they will stop. Faith is belief without proof. Trust is believing something based on similar past experiences. In the past, cars have stopped behind you at lights. This makes you trust that they will again.

I've been rear ended twice. I don't trust anyone on the road.
 
I've been rear ended twice. I don't trust anyone on the road.

If that's supposed to disprove what I said, it doesn't. Your lack of trust is working the same way that I said trust works: you're making a logical deduction based upon past experiences there.
 
To me, this is where they diverge. Personally, I trust in things based upon the logic of my past experiences.

Do you drive on US public roads? :crazy:
My past says watch out. Logically I should be agoraphobic.
 
Trust and faith really aren't synonymous when it comes to religion and science. Which is why I said in my last post: There is no faith in science, because if you doubt, you can search for proof. In religion, there is no proof. That's why you're told you must have faith. (Seriously, this is basic Christian doctrine... to accept the mysteries of God on faith)

what he said...I was talking about religious faith. I don't have faith that there is a god, but SOMETIMES I really do feel like life is pre-determined, pre-destined, planned out since birth, whatever. But I am not religious.

If you believe, as some do, that time is an illusion, then all events actually occur simultaneously, and we are simply moving along the time manifold in one direction, living them out bit by bit.

This is what tickled me about someone mentioning Hawking having to invent "imaginary" time to make his theories work. Truth is, in general relativity and quantum physics, time really isn't absolute, anyway.
 
I wish there was a God, but the Bible is just so stupid it ruins everything for me. So I don't believe in God. I used to believe in people. But I'm not so sure about that either anymore.
 
Topsu
I wish there was a God, but the Bible is just so stupid it ruins everything for me. So I don't believe in God. I used to believe in people. But I'm not so sure about that either anymore.

Can't just jump to conclusions. Why do you wish there was one? Do some research. If you want to believe in one and truly think there is one there (there is) then do it. No one is stopping you lol :sly:
 
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"They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might"

—2 Thessalonians 1:9

Not as easy as that.
 
But you can avoid all that with a quick deathbed confession tho right? :o

Amusingly, yes. St. Peter obviously isn't too picky. Believe, confess and repent in those dying moments and your chances of making it through the pearly gates apparently improve immeasurably.
 
Since you don't believe in any kind of gates ... hardly worthy of discussion the justice system of those who do. Especially if your problem is the leniency of it :lol:
 
homeforsummer
Amusingly, yes. St. Peter obviously isn't too picky. Believe, confess and repent in those dying moments and your chances of making it through the pearly gates apparently improve immeasurably.

It doesn't go exactly like that
 
nitrorocks
It doesn't go exactly like that

Go on then, surprise me. Does confessing your sins and repenting for them improve your chance at heaven or not then? If it doesn't then there are some serious inconsistencies lurking around here.
 
RBW
"They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might"

—2 Thessalonians 1:9

Not as easy as that.

That sounds pretty ridiculous. Because my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandparents ate some apples, I'll go to hell if I don't believe in someone who doesn't show proof of his existence.

Quite honestly, the very concept of hell was one of the things that flagged Christianity for me when I still believed. It didn't make any sense.

God, if he was God, should pretty much forgive everyone and let them in to heaven. It's his fault that we were designed to be gullible enough to fall for some talking snake's tricks.
 
homeforsummer
Go on then, surprise me. Does confessing your sins and repenting for them improve your chance at heaven or not then? If it doesn't then there are some serious inconsistencies lurking around here.

Yes but that's only half. Togo to heaven you have to do that, and also turn as many people as you can during Christ
 
Yes but that's only half. Togo to heaven you have to do that, and also turn as many people as you can during Christ

You're gonna have to rephrase that because how you've worded it really doesn't make sense.

Do you mean you have to convert people to Christ in order to get to heaven?
 
homeforsummer
You're gonna have to rephrase that because how you've worded it really doesn't make sense.

Do you mean you have to convert people to Christ in order to get to heaven?

Yes I do. auto correct has taken over my phone :lol:
 
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