Do you think Sport owners should have the option to import their garage?

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  1. Kelmac

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    The best reply to this thread so far! I’ve created a ton of liveries I wish not to recreate! I won’t mind grinding for the credits to put cars under my hard work!,

    No one starts on the same footing, especially when it comes to livery design!! It’s a selfish thought to assume we all need to start over because you want to! I really don’t want to re-design 600 cars!
     
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  2. fordlaser

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    It should not be an option to have your garage ported to a new game, because it is a dumb idea unless you purchase the cars that you have with real money.

    Hey @Samus I paid real money for my G29 to use it on a PS5 and with no credits, so I gotchu there. So it looks like you just made a fool out of yourself saying It's not fair to have a headstart.
     
  3. jimihemmy

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    GT7 should have us all start fresh. I'm sure there will be some kind of special edition to can pay for with some special cars if you want.
    I think we should get some kind of credit bonus for having a GT Sport save but it should not include cars. I would definitely like to see liveries and decals brought over though.

    Most games give you something for a save from a previous version but there is no way I would expect my whole garage (or even most of it) to be given to me in a new game. Plus...what happens to the cars you have that won't be in the new game? Are you then supposed to get something for those too?

    As for buying the cars with real cash? There was no promise made that you would carry them over. You don't get to keep what you paid for in a new version of the game....that's not how it works....
     
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    I would like PD to allow us to have our cars that we purchased with real money over to the new game, liveries and decals should definitely go over and that would make people very happy.
     
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    Why exactly is it a "dumb idea"? Why should I have to pay money just to carry over what is effectively content that will be in the next game? That's even more nonsensical then putting a requested feature behind a paywall and I already have strong discontent towards that to begin with.
     
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  6. Samus

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    Haha, so it's new game fresh start.....unless you pay some money. Good one.

    How exactly is that not killing the fun? It's fun if get a head start by paying but not if you don't?
     
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    It would be nice to have an option to add some (50 for example) cars from your garage. The colours and all of that stuff that we have gotten in mileage exchange and of course the liveries collection.
     
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  8. redhed17

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    Why? :confused:

    Is it a fresh start for everyone, or just those that haven't had GT Sport! :confused:

    I would hope for my whole garage, even if I don't expect to, to be transferred. But if they do, and if they have decided to not include a car from GT Sport that you may 'own' in GT7, then obviously they wouldn't be able to transfer that/those across. :rolleyes:

    Ah, OK that's the way something has been done in the past, so that can't be done differently. That helps things evolve and change eh! :rolleyes:
     
  9. Imari

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    Wait, what? You're only OK with people getting extra cars quick if they pay for them with real money? So a straight up, no questions about it pay-to-win model?

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  10. jimihemmy

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    So everyone starts on a level playing field.

    For everyone. Those who receive a bonus from a game save would only get maybe $100k. Enough to buy a better starting car but not a Gr.3 car. Previous Gran Turismo games had you start with $20k to buy a cheap car to start racing with and then you earn credits to buy better cars or upgrades.

    The whole garage only works if all of the GT Sport cars make it into GT7. The whole point of Gran Turismo has been to earn credits to build your garage.

    In the world of Gran Turismo, yes. This has been their formula from the beginning. Sure it could be done differently but that wouldn’t be a Gran Turismo game.

    With it looking like they are bringing back the single player part of the game as well as GT Auto, I would bet that they are combining classic Gran Turismo with GT Sport. Having a player bring over their whole garage or gifting them $1 million credits is not how the game works. It does not start with the haves and have-nots. We all start at the same point with maybe a little bonus.

    Some games, specifically MLB The Show would give you some type of bonus for having a save from the last game version. They would give you a free pack of stubs or enough credits to buy a pack of stubs but they would not give you all of the players you earned or bought to use for the Diamond Dynasty .
     
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  11. redhed17

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    I play the game against the game, what does it matter to anyone else that I am not starting from a blank starting point or not. Give me a choice and I can, and you can, and everyone else could choose whether they wanted to do that or not.

    So now if people do get a bonus for having a saved game, you're now also saying what it should be.:eek: :lol:

    You usually started with a cheap, normally used car, unless you bought a special edition version at release with extra cars, and possibly some credits. ;) Already there were people not starting from the same point as most people. Er, so what! Again, give people the option to choose, and those who wanted to play the game as they have in the past can, others can choose how to play in a different way.

    Fyi, even if I had my GT Sport garage transfer over to GT7, I would still play the game the same way as previous (full) GT games, doing the Licences, starting with a used car, normally a RX7, and working my way up. I want my garage to transfer to hopefully bring the liveries I have spent many hours designing, and don't want to disappear. I have already lost over a years worth of work to an online save being corrupted, and it wasn't a nice feeling. If people want to transfer their garages to to use in the Challenges or online races, so what, good luck to them. They have earned what they have.

    If car x in my GT Sport garage was not a car in the GT7 car list, it doesn't obviously get transferred. Not that hard to implement I would have thought. Does car x = GT7 car list, no, not possible to transfer, next.

    That is part of the 'point' of GT. What about; Driving the cars on different tracks. Racing cars in game. Racing people online. Taking pictures during replays. Taking pictures in the different 'scapes'. Creating Liveries. Customising cars. Challenges. Licence tests. There are many aspects of the game beyond just collecting a large number of cars. Again, giving people the option to transfer, or not, what they have earned or created in GT Sport, gives people the option to play how they like.

    In your opinion. See above, people may have different ideas of what a GT game is to them.

    Again, I am playing against the game, what difference does it make to anyone else what I could/would choose to start the game with! "There is someone in the world not starting the game the same as me!" Grrr :lol:

    Again, why does the next GT7 game have to stick to what any previous GT games has done from one version to the next, or how any other games do things. :confused:

    You are obviously opposed to anything transferring from GT Sport, which is fine, even if I don't quite understand the reasons. I'm just hoping they give people options as to choose what they want to transfer, or not. In your idea of the way it should be, people can lose a lot of different stuff. :( With my idea, people have choices what to use or lose. People tend to like options to choose how they play games. :)
     
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  12. jimihemmy

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    @redhed17

    Polyphony Digital has always done it the way they want to.

    If you want extra credits and dlc cars then you buy the special edition or whatever they call it. Everyone has the same choice of what version they buy.
    Maybe they won't offer any of that and then everyone can start from scratch.
    I actually like that idea better. If I lose my liveries and decals, so what? I'll just start over.
    Life is full of tough choices. Maybe they shouldn't give us any...I would be ok with that.
    Everyone can play the game the way they want to and we all can start from scratch.

    I am not against them transferring anything. I just don't think they will because they never have. It is one thing to change and evolve and it is another to stick to tradition.
     
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    Well I for one am on the hope that PD do change and allow us to at least access our liveries in GT 7.

    Some of the ones I have created I have put many hours into and whilst I am enjoying racing those liveries just now a part of me feels sad thinking
    I might have to recreate them for the next game and whilst my liveries may not be the most popular I do know some of them get used in racing.

    I would never transfer my car garage over as each game is a new start but liveries I hope we can.
     
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    Replying to the OP, sure, I'd like that as an option but a fresh start is always great.
    The only thing i fear though is: will the user created content from Sport (the helmet/suit/car liveries at least) be transferrable to 7?
     
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    It's 2020. We could probably look at some gameplay that's a little more advanced than "grind to buy more cars to grind with".

    Sure it would. If it has Gran Turismo on the cover, it's a Gran Turismo game. There are no rules as to what a Gran Turismo game must or must not have.

    Now you're getting somewhere. But you're not Polyphony, so why should we listen to you telling us what the game should or shouldn't be?
     
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  16. Samus

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    Wrong.

    https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/products/gtpsp/

     
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  17. Kelmac

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    You may want to take a look at the garage of any of the really good Livery designers to understand how much effort goes into those works of art (in some cases)! It sounds as if you don’t consider that an important part of the game, but for some of us it’s a major reason we continue to enjoy this game so much! I don’t necessarily need the garage but I don’t want to throw all my hard work in the trash and start over!
     
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  19. jimihemmy

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    I'm not telling anyone what the game should or shouldn't be. I am just stating my opinion of how it may play out.

    I admit....I forgot all about that. But I am sure that was a marketing ploy to sell the PSP game and machine. While I certainly bought the game, it wasn't because I could transfer the cars to GT5. We all know how that machine sold like gangbusters.....

    Believe me...I have seen some amazing livery designs. There are plenty that I wonder how they even created that. I don't have those skills! I know there is a lot of work involved in creating them from using the default shapes to creating your own decals. I certainly do not have the talent (or patience) for that but I am grateful for those that do and share them. It would be a shame if they cannot be brought over but we don't know the technical limitations involved in that. I am just saying it may not be possible. And bringing cars over may have the same issue.

    Let me be clear....I don't care what they do with the game, it is still a day one purchase for me and probably the sole reason I would buy a PS5. I am just stating what I think will happen.

    So back to the OP, I would vote no but I wouldn't be mad if we could....
     
  20. fordlaser

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    Having your garage ported over to a new game is BS, I know why players want their garage ported because they don't want to Grind and they have limited time to play the new game.
     
  21. Tornado

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    Wow, those are definitely two sentences that don't contradict each other at all.
     
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    But YOU didn't want to grind, so you took advantage of a glitch and also bought the cars on the PS Store.

    You're still yet to explain why that is ok and not BS, but a free transfer mechanic isn't .
     
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    12 days and we're still giving attention to fordlaser's comments.
    I was hoping to see something new in this topic. Nope, fodlaser on every single page.

    Guess it's entertaining.
    By the way: cheating is bad, my dude.


    Anyway, I hope the economy system will be fixed. The grinding in GT is atrocious, I've never seen anything like this in any other game. I've had GT Sport since day one and I'm still not able to afford a single 20mil car (and I never received one as a gift). I just buy 1mil...the most expensive I got was 4.5 mil or something.
    I just play on repeat on bluemoon when I have time, to get those 300.000cr per race... As boring as it can be.
    I don't have ps+. Is it faster to get cr playing online? In any case it shouldn't be. I don't see why I should be penalized doing offline races.

    Like I said, I simply have no time. Like many other people.

    With GT7 I want to start from scratch of course, that's absolutely not an issue for me, but again...the economy system needs a damn fix, and if it's fixed I wouldn't even think about the possibility of importing cars from GT7.
     
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  24. jimihemmy

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    It is not faster online. As bad as the game economy is, GT League is the best place to earn credits based on time. I’m lucky if I get to play an hour a day. It’s usually a couple of daily race B’s or C’s to get the daily marathon car or a FIA race (maybe 2 on the weekends) and that’s it for me. Luckily, doing the circuit experiences and missions can give you cars and cash at the start but they are one shot deals.
     
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    Listen I am not a cheat and If the game let's you do it and that is not cheating, so it is bloody fine to do it ok. Remember GT Sport was so bloody easy to get credits and that makes the economy system very good in the game.

    You say you simply have no time to play well I got some news for you mate, why did you buy the game in the first place for and that goes with the other as well.
     
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    Even Famine said in this thread that you use the glitch.
    Nice dude, really nice cheating: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ran-turismo-sport.373222/page-3#post-12147529

    Maybe because I get some fun out of GTS after all? A thing like this won't stop me from buying a game. Stop pretending it's all black or white and that I shouldn't support PD if I don't like one thing. That's not an argument. PD are always open to suggestions.
    I'm allowed to give my opinion and complain about the economy system which is a mess, it's a fact, and buy the game at the same time. (wow, mindblowing isn't it?)

    I got news for you: you won't stop me from thinking otherwise, and nothing is set in stone. PD can make changes.
    Now, go back to my ignore list. Attaboy.
     
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    Oh. Since PD have deliberately made a head start option in the past (even directly advertising two games as allowing it as a feature) and since PD functionally have an option now that accomplishes the same thing and have for two games now, that means that you are in fact okay with it.


    Glad we got that cleared up.

    So why did you buy GT Sport when you decided you needed to cheat to get things faster?


    Even beyond the staggering, ludicrous hypocrisy you continue to decide you are above acknowledging, how laughably obtuse do you have to be to straight up acknowledge "People just want an option to bypass poor game design" and then add the addendum "and that's bad."
     
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  28. Samus

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    Are you able to post without wildly contradicting yourself?

    You claim credits are easy to obtain in GT Sport, you claim the economy is fine, yet you resorted to a pit lane glitch, rubber banding your controller and buying the shortcut DLC on the store. Why?

    You deride those who don't have time to grind for credits, when you yourself don't care to spend your time grinding for credits.

    That, mate, is the definition of a hypocrite.
     
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    I wouldn't import my car list to GT7, but my money yes. I have over 50 million after playing the LHTT, and now that we are not getting new cars from updates, I'm really mad. I'm owning almost every car already, except the 20M ones.
     
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    So if the game lets you transfer your cars then it's not cheating and it's bloody fine to do it. Right?

    Right?
     
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