Driving Experience or skidmarks?

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  • I want the experience

    Votes: 106 37.9%

  • Skid-marks!

    Votes: 11 3.9%

  • Umm...why not both?

    Votes: 163 58.2%
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yes, to sum it up, if GT5 does not have skidmarks PD have lost the plot, are not in touch with their client base and deserve a big smelly wet fish slapped across their chops.

There is no excuse whatsoever for them not to be in the game.

i want to do this in the game - don't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnzQRI8tzfI

not all this time but just for fun!!

how mad is this?

i know these guys need shooting but they are good behind the wheel!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdcE2p8A3iY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxZvxhIX10
 
TokyoDrift
No, not really...
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So that video doesn't excite you one bit?

You have not got petrol in your veins then dear boy.👎

Surely if you are into cars and Gt you would want to be able to see skid marks and smoke like that if you fancied doing a burnout?

Your comment surprised me.

If its just about the driving experience and the physics model then a game with blocky cars and highly pixelated graphics would do you fine - I wouldn't think it would sell that much though as I feel you may be the minority.

Why people are so closed minded and reject anything which would OBVIOUSLY make the game more realistic is beyond me.

Lets hope that if we get weather and the track is streaming wet that PD have not gone to the trouble of creating tyre spray as its not needed and doesn't add the driving experience apparently.
 
^^ Agreed :lol: All you have to do is buy the game and everything is free! Even though doing donuts is boring sometimes, showing it off online is fun. It doesn't affect the driving experience, but it adds the fun factor to it. We can't all go serious in a game like GT, sometimes we need to seat back and relax, and make fun of the VW beetle or smash it with a Dodge RAM. J/k. But yeah skidmarks adds the fun factor for me.
 
Talk about a lack of respect for the machinery (not to mention other drivers). That poor Cav'. :(

Of course, it probably won't stop me acting the tit occasionally in GT5...
 
Don't want to imply anything purely visual doesn't add anything significant because a great deal of GT is purely visual and all the better for it.
But skidmarks for the most part are purely a non-essential visual aspect, it is basically automotive graffiti, which is nice if it was added for writing your rubberised autograph onto the tarmac once but do we really need it?

No, reverse lights? ( also nice but trivial ), no, fully functioning cup-holders for your Dual-Shock3 controller? perhaps.....;)

Both ( not the cup-holders ) would be nice if added, nice nothing more, as it would not make a real difference for the driving experience in my opinion.
I look into my rear view mirror to see my opponents, not the black rubbery deposits i made earlier.
 
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craste
i want to do this in the game - don't you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnzQRI8tzfI
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Nah.

In general, I could really care less about skid-marks. It hasn't mattered before why is it a big deal now? Of course when doing an endurance race rubber build up on the track would be an advantage to the driver with experience to utilize it, now something like that, in my opinion should be implemented. Not on 3 or even 10 lap races though. Don't get me wrong, I would like to see every detail you can get into the game, but not at the expense of the the more important parts of the game, or something more useful that they could have squeezed in in the place of skid-marks. Too much memory used keeping them there.
 
Completely off topic, but what's with this "I could care less" business I keep seeing? Surely it's "I couldn't care less" implying that there's no way you could actually care any less about it...?

Meh. Skidmarks are a sure sign that you're pushing too hard, granted, but honestly the majority of the time you should know this long before you start leaving skidmarks.
Rubbering in, on the other hand, would be awesome for the endurance races, though I could never stomach any of the other games that had this feature long enough to experience it.
 
Hah, skidmarks. Gotta think bigger than that guys. I mean c'mon eh think about it seriously, why'd you really think Kaz laughed it off.
 
Griffith500
Completely off topic, but what's with this "I could care less" business I keep seeing? Surely it's "I couldn't care less" implying that there's no way you could actually care any less about it...?
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“As if there was something in the world that I care less about”. But if you want to be a stickler about it there have been a million people with too much time on their hands who have written about "I could care less". It kind of applies to what I am saying since I do care a little if there are skid-marks (endurance races), but for the most part I don't care that much. But, of course, I didn't think of that when posting it, it is just something us American's seem to say a lot even though it is a bit illogical and doesn't express, very well, what we mean.

Meh. Skidmarks are a sure sign that you're pushing too hard, granted, but honestly the majority of the time you should know this long before you start leaving skidmarks.
Rubbering in, on the other hand, would be awesome for the endurance races, though I could never stomach any of the other games that had this feature long enough to experience it.
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Yea, there are plenty of other tell tale signs that you are pushing to hard, and since skid-marks are usually meet with a sound of screeching, you should be able to hear it happening and not have to wonder until you see visual evidence the next lap around or from looking in your rear view. (Seeing them without looking in your rear view implies that you probably spun out and I don't think you need to see skid-marks at that point in order to understand you weren't doing too great.)
 
I think the "could care less" thing is mainly american and "couldn't care less" seems more uk/europe they're just expressions - get over it.

I have been known to say something along the lines of "I could care less but I'd really have to concentrate" the american expression makes more sense if you think of it like a shortened version of this.

Anyway I'm out of this argument - I could give less of a **** but I'd have to cross my legs
 
RyanWreck
“As if there was something in the world that I care less about”. But if you want to be a stickler about it there have been a million people with too much time on their hands who have written about "I could care less". It kind of applies to what I am saying since I do care a little if there are skid-marks (endurance races), but for the most part I don't care that much. But, of course, I didn't think of that when posting it, it is just something us American's seem to say a lot even though it is a bit illogical and doesn't express, very well, what we mean.
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Fair enough! I guess it works more as an idiom, but as a literal statement it kind of loses its impact, whilst "I couldn't care less" is typically used as a form of hyperbole, for emphasis.

P3nT4gR4m
I think the "could care less" thing is mainly american and "couldn't care less" seems more uk/europe they're just expressions - get over it.

I have been known to say something along the lines of "I could care less but I'd really have to concentrate" the american expression makes more sense if you think of it like a shortened version of this.

Anyway I'm out of this argument - I could give less of a **** but I'd have to cross my legs
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There's nothing to get over. I was just curious - I find idioms fascinating, since they tend to be rooted in culture and custom. So in a sense they tell two stories: one of how / why such a saying came to be, and another of how the person using it feels, because it has an implied literal meaning as well as an underlying sentiment etc.
But there's no argument, either way... :grumpy:

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RyanWreck
Yea, there are plenty of other tell tale signs that you are pushing to hard, and since skid-marks are usually meet with a sound of screeching, you should be able to hear it happening and not have to wonder until you see visual evidence the next lap around or from looking in your rear view. (Seeing them without looking in your rear view implies that you probably spun out and I don't think you need to see skid-marks at that point in order to understand you weren't doing too great.)
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👍 I just remembered the Datalogger feature from GT3 - I wonder if it'll come back? That would be much more useful in seeing where you're losing time and where you could(n't) possibly improve ;)
 
Griffith500
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👍 I just remembered the Datalogger feature from GT3 - I wonder if it'll come back? That would be much more useful in seeing where you're losing time and where you could(n't) possibly improve ;)
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Not quite sure what type of Data logging you are referring to but that is because GT3 has been the only Gran Turismo titled which I never played. But, Kaz has already stated that there will be a “Data Logger Visualization” system, not quite sure if this is the same as that which you are talking about, so here is a small article on the GT5 Data Logger along with a nice little video:

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-data-logger-visualization-tech-demo/


And now I am going to go a tad off-topic:

Most of the sim racing games I play, namely rFactor and iRacing have systems that are somewhat like this in place already along with other helpful things such as Telemetry (screenshot below of one I use from rFactor) which is always a great help especially with F1, and my personal favorite, the MoTeC interpreter, also shown below.

rFactor Telemetry:

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MoTeC interpreter:

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Motec.jpg
 
RyanWreck
rFactor Telemetry:

motorsports_090a_013t.jpg
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GT already has this atleast, TGS09 studio tours we saw the traction circle which Kaz said will be in (because the french SuperGT driver wanted it) and GT has always had the basic track telemetry (braking, throttle, speed, track position etc)
 
P3nT4gR4m
Your avatar is EVIL - please stop posting until you've found one that doesn't make baby jesus cry!
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Your comment made me laugh! It's the result of typing 'scary face' into google images.
 
I want the experience but skidmarks wouldn't hurt. I actually never even noticed the lack of skid marks before someone mentioned it in a GT5 Prologue discussion. And I've been with the series from the get go.
 
I was playing rFactor tonight, like I do every night, which implements skidmarks and didn't notice any difference even when I spun around Donington for 34 laps and aimed for my skidmarks. I did the same on GTR2.

In conclusion as I stated before: Skidmarks are only needed for long endurance races, and drifting. That is my final answer.
 

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