EA Sports WRC: General Discussion

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SharkyOB
It's not on PSVR is it?

It's great on PC, I do have a powerful machine though and you have to turn off HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling) to get the most out of it, as that causes issues with this game.
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Hi. Where do you turn off HAGS. Didn’t know that trick.
 
Ken134
Hi. Where do you turn off HAGS. Didn’t know that trick.
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  • Right click on desktop and click Display settings
  • Click Graphics, then 'Change default graphics settings'
  • Set 'Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling' to off and restart PC

Just bear in mind that HAGS is needed for frame gen on 40 and 50 series Nvidia cards if you have one and use it. I have a 4090, but I've never used frame gen so I'm not bothered about leaving HAGS switched off.
 
SharkyOB
It's not on PSVR is it?

It's great on PC, I do have a powerful machine though and you have to turn off HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling) to get the most out of it, as that causes issues with this game.
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No PS5 version does not have PSVR2 option ...it's kind of bummer about the PSVR2 at times.

I also realized the potential GPU limitation. 5080's are in stock at my local computer store, and I've seen people selling 5090s on craigslist. Im in San Jose and it looks like a bunch of tech people got some to scalp... but no way am I going to spend nearly $2k for that card just to play WRC and F1
 
This is why I don't have, want or need a gaming PC. The amount of costs involved in something that may or may not allow you to play the 'next big thing' are frankly astounding. Not to mention the endless upgrading roller coaster every two minutes.

Then you've got all the optimisation messing around, then it might work one day and the next it might not even load to some unknown reason.

If you want one, fair enough, but it's not for me thanks. I like that I can switch on and just go. Yes, maybe a next gen console is still a fair chunk of change and maybe it may be 'only' comparable to a mid range PC but it works.
 
Tool1312
This is why I don't have, want or need a gaming PC. The amount of costs involved in something that may or may not allow you to play the 'next big thing' are frankly astounding. Not to mention the endless upgrading roller coaster every two minutes.

Then you've got all the optimisation messing around, then it might work one day and the next it might not even load to some unknown reason.

If you want one, fair enough, but it's not for me thanks. I like that I can switch on and just go. Yes, maybe a next gen console is still a fair chunk of change and maybe it may be 'only' comparable to a mid range PC but it works.
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yeah I hear you because of the GPU market and now the tariffs, PC gaming won't be affordable to most common gamers, but the PS5Pro got announced out right when I got my PS5 and there was no way I was going to buy it regardless of its gaming enhancements
 
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Tool1312
This is why I don't have, want or need a gaming PC. The amount of costs involved in something that may or may not allow you to play the 'next big thing' are frankly astounding. Not to mention the endless upgrading roller coaster every two minutes.

Then you've got all the optimisation messing around, then it might work one day and the next it might not even load to some unknown reason.

If you want one, fair enough, but it's not for me thanks. I like that I can switch on and just go. Yes, maybe a next gen console is still a fair chunk of change and maybe it may be 'only' comparable to a mid range PC but it works.
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I do find it a little odd that someone who spends as much on sim racing gear as you have (based on your signature) would feel this way, but I fully support your right to be wrong! The best sim racing experiences will probably always be on PC, as it can be a niche market, so I don't understand why you wouldn't want the best/most software options to go with the expensive hardware.

I haven't upgraded my PC since I bought my 4090, although granted that was a big expense! As anyone knows who has a PC, the constant upgrade thing just isn't true unless you really want to stay on the bleeding edge. I probably upgrade my pc once per console generation, although I will fully agree that it's way more money than a console, but I also tend to do it in stages so the cost doesn't all hit at once and I use it way more than I would any console. My PC is more than capable of playing the latest games on a flat screen a couple of years after that upgrade, and I'll be skipping the current 50 series Nvidia cards so probably won't make any upgrades for a couple more years at least.

Because of game managers like Steam, most games are just turn on and go, with updates happening automatically in the same way as they do on console. I have Game Pass too, so I get to play a lot of the major releases as part of that.

Sim racing is probably the thing where I've had to spend most time tweaking, but that's down to using VR and to offset it, I then get to play AMS2, Le Mans Ultimate and a fully-modded Assetto Corsa, where I can drive pretty much any track and car from the last 100 years if I want to. On top of that you get cheap games and incredible stuff that'll never come to console like Noita, Stellaris and Battle Brothers (I could name way more here). VR support is streets ahead of consoles and I only play driving games in VR nowadays. Mods are optional, but of course they can be pretty awesome if done well and are something that's generally not available on console at all.

But added to all that, PCs aren't just for gaming. I use my PC:
  • As a music and entertainment centre
  • For recording and editing music
  • For graphic design and video editing for my musical projects
  • For streaming services like Rally.TV
I have a PS5 as well, I haven't turned it on since I finished The Last of Us 2 😅
 
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SharkyOB
  • Right click on desktop and click Display settings
  • Click Graphics, then 'Change default graphics settings'
  • Set 'Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling' to off and restart PC

Just bear in mind that HAGS is needed for frame gen on 40 and 50 series Nvidia cards if you have one and use it. I have a 4090, but I've never used frame gen so I'm not bothered about leaving HAGS switched off.
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Thanks. Yes I have a 4090 to. Will give it a test.
 
SharkyOB
But added to all that, PCs aren't just for gaming. I use my PC:
  • As a music and entertainment centre
  • For recording and editing music
  • For graphic design and video editing for my musical projects
  • For streaming services like Rally.TV
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Do any of these need a GPU? When my gaming PC blew up and refused to boot I replaced it with a cheap i5 office PC that takes care of all my other tasks but wouldn't fit my old 1070. People on the Forza thread (who declare a resolution) seem to be running the game at 1080p and I'd rather use my 4K tv to the fullest. They also seem to be complaining about getting the game to run a lot so I'm happy with peasantry for the time being.
 
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UKMikey
Do any of these need a GPU? When my gaming PC blew up and refused to boot I replaced it with a cheap i5 office PC that takes care of all my other tasks but wouldn't fit my old 1070. People on the Forza thread (who declare a resolution) seem to be running the game at 1080p and I'd rather use my 4K tv to the fullest. They also seem to be complaining about getting the game to run a lot so I'm happy with peasantry for the time being.
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No, but you do need a pretty good PC for more demanding video editing tasks, particularly when you're combining multiple videos together. Once you've got a decent motherboard/processor/memory combo it's not too crazy to add a GPU.
 
SharkyOB
I do find it a little odd that someone who spends as much on sim racing gear as you have (based on your signature) would feel this way, but I fully support your right to be wrong! The best sim racing experiences will probably always be on PC, as it can be a niche market, so I don't understand why you wouldn't want the best/most software options to go with the expensive hardware.

I haven't upgraded my PC since I bought my 4090, although granted that was a big expense! As anyone knows who has a PC, the constant upgrade thing just isn't true unless you really want to stay on the bleeding edge. I probably upgrade my pc once per console generation, although I will fully agree that it's way more money than a console, but I also tend to do it in stages so the cost doesn't all hit at once and I use it way more than I would any console. My PC is more than capable of playing the latest games on a flat screen a couple of years after that upgrade, and I'll be skipping the current 50 series Nvidia cards so probably won't make any upgrades for a couple more years at least.

Because of game managers like Steam, most games are just turn on and go, with updates happening automatically in the same way as they do on console. I have Game Pass too, so I get to play a lot of the major releases as part of that.

Sim racing is probably the thing where I've had to spend most time tweaking, but that's down to using VR and to offset it, I then get to play AMS2, Le Mans Ultimate and a fully-modded Assetto Corsa, where I can drive pretty much any track and car from the last 100 years if I want to. On top of that you get cheap games and incredible stuff that'll never come to console like Noita, Stellaris and Battle Brothers (I could name way more here). VR support is streets ahead of consoles and I only play driving games in VR nowadays. Mods are optional, but of course they can be pretty awesome if done well and are something that's generally not available on console at all.

But added to all that, PCs aren't just for gaming. I use my PC:
  • As a music and entertainment centre
  • For recording and editing music
  • For graphic design and video editing for my musical projects
  • For streaming services like Rally.TV
I have a PS5 as well, I haven't turned it on since I finished The Last of Us 2 😅
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I'm not dissing PC ownership, it's just that I don't feel the need for one.

Yes I may have spent some money of my setup, but this has been a slow trickle over approx 5 years. It wasn't all done at once. I went from an Xbox 360, then an Xbox One, Xbox Series S, now an Xbox Series X. I traded in each time along with every disc game I had.

As for peripherals, I had the G920 for 5 years before getting the Moza and so on and so on.

So if I've spent £2000 on my rig it works out at £400 each year.

Compared to the prices of GPU, graphics cards, memory etc it's a drop in the ocean.

I know not everyone playing on PC will have all the latest stuff and still be able to play, I suppose the many posts about the workarounds that sometimes have to be done when something goes wrong is colouring my opinion.

I guess it's a case of if it works for you, then go for it.

Again, I wasn't singling anyone out or trying to paint PC in a bad light
 
Tool1312
I'm not dissing PC ownership, it's just that I don't feel the need for one.

Yes I may have spent some money of my setup, but this has been a slow trickle over approx 5 years. It wasn't all done at once. I went from an Xbox 360, then an Xbox One, Xbox Series S, now an Xbox Series X. I traded in each time along with every disc game I had.

As for peripherals, I had the G920 for 5 years before getting the Moza and so on and so on.

So if I've spent £2000 on my rig it works out at £400 each year.

Compared to the prices of GPU, graphics cards, memory etc it's a drop in the ocean.

I know not everyone playing on PC will have all the latest stuff and still be able to play, I suppose the many posts about the workarounds that sometimes have to be done when something goes wrong is colouring my opinion.

I guess it's a case of if it works for you, then go for it.

Again, I wasn't singling anyone out or trying to paint PC in a bad light
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Honestly didn't think you were singling anyone out mate. Just wanted to give a counterpoint, PC gaming sometime gets a bad rep (and PC gamers don't always help TBF!), but a lot of the issues PCs used to have as a gaming platform aren't really a thing anymore. A lot of the tweaking stuff you see is simply because you can, rather than because you have to. If something isn't quite right on PC, you have more tools at your disposal to try and fix things.
 
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I was a console player all my life since the Megadrive as a kid and after switching to PC about 5-6 years ago I'll never go back. I don't think PC gaming is suitable for everyone however. Some people just want to play FIFA or GT7 in an evening and that's fine. A gaming PC is completely overkill for just basic everyday gaming. The amount of choice, Freedom and the limitless things you can do with a PC is just too hard to stay away from for me though.
 
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We know where the rights have gone now, back to Nacon. Not the most exciting option but the only realistic one to get a game out in the timescale:

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I love WRC so hate to say this, announcing a gaming partner for 7 years into the future seems a little optimistic for a series that may or may not have enough teams to run into the next set of regulations in 2!

I do hope Nacon go a different direction with the games when they get the licence back, simulators are great but some of my favourite rally games are those which aren't taking themselves so seriously, Dirt 1-3 were the high point for me, something with physics as fun as those would be a joy to play again.
 
I don't hate this. WRC Generations had it's flaws but that and 10 were solid enough rally games. Generations online was particularly good and I wish Codemasters had copied that format as I still find it more enjoyable even now as a daily and weekly online model that's competitive for everyone.

My biggest disappointment is we aren't seeing a new WRC game until 2027 at the earliest. That's the bit that sucks.

Still, plenty of time for KT to refine their engine and add a glut of new stages to their existing portfolio, as they have plenty to pull from, the stage design is very good, though I prefer the Codemasters route of real roads and stages, KT have made some very enjoyable stages with lots of sections that are easily recognisable.

I'd like to see them work on the audio more, the car sounds were always lacking, just not enough body to them and the Co-driver audio has always been a distant 2nd place to every Codemasters rally title.

So if they can refine what they have, improve the sounds, add a good amount of new stages to their existing ones and keep the online structure from Generations then it'll be solid.
 
I think the WRC line could use a bit of sexing up; perhaps a rallycross expansion is in line? Or even nitrocross? I just feel the WRC title is pretty much hemmed in in terms of its audience. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it really limits the creativity and growth of the game. We pretty much know what to expect each game.
 
KT are okay. Their WRC games were okay. Nice stages, decent career modes, fine. But they were always 'just' a recreation of the current year's WRC season for me, they never scratched the itch that Codemasters games did for immersion in this whole rallying experience using cars from different eras on rallies not just sticking to the current calendar- and in honesty I'm much more of a fan of WRC past than I am of WRC 2025 so it's nuch more sad to me that we're losing DiRT Rally, as opposed to losing the licenced title.
 
Well, by far the biggest question is...

Will the next KT game title be a continuation of the last KT game, i.e. WRC: First Contact, or will they reboot the series and call it WRC: The Motion Picture, or even just WRC? ;)

Just as long as its not WRC: Discovery...

I guess the decision to go back to Nacon was ... err ... logical ;)

The timeliness is interesting. I guess it's not enough time to get all the courses ready for 2026 and in some ways the extra year might, if we are lucky, result in a better game all round.

Personally, I enjoyed the WRC games from KT, though most of them didn't make good use of any historic cars included. I think we should get a good handling model, I wonder I they'll base it on WRC: Generations or adapt TDUSC. For all its issues, TDUSC has a really good handling model except for a few cars being erratic and might allow for something more user friendly.

A final thought, Nacon and KT don't have a tendency to over monetise games, so we shouldn't see endless microtransactioms appearing hopefully.

There are some downsides (post launch support for Generations was very short and poor) but all in all, I feel like we could have ended up with a MUCH MUCH worse result!
 
I remember enjoying KT's final couple of rally games (Minus the weird throttle bug thing on Generations)

They were solid games, The biggest standout were the quality of the stages and environments though.
 
I enjoyed WRC10. It was nice to see a licensed game actually do something with the historic content in the anniversary mode. The the slight stage variations when doing group B challenges Vs modern challenges was cool and unique.

Tarmac physics let it down, horrible tarmac physics.
 
A new WRC game under Nacon will flop, they made a right mess of TDUSC and are too stubborn to improve it especially when there's no offline mode
It will fail
 

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