FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[stpatty]

I'd assume it'll be considerably larger than any benefit you'd get from no-stopping. 30 seconds is probably right, but I don't know how penalties that large affect getting DNF'd with the race time limit.

Hopefully for DS4 users the tyre wear of the softer compound isn't too damaging.

 

[Lost Sheltie]

I think they need to introduce a pit window at the same time as the 2 compound rule. Saturday's race at Interlagos is 19 laps, so have a pit window from lap 5 to lap 15 and that will stop people just doing 1 lap on the harder compound.

Saying that they nailed the Nations race on Wednesday so maybe they have this all worked out.

 

[bduddy]

A lot of drama yesterday at RBR wet.I haven't competed for many months, but I know what my 4c can do, so I entered the race. There was already another driver with the 4c who took pole position, I started from the last position thanks to all those who do not know how to do a clean qualifying. In the race I recovered from 17 to 8; here the epilogue, the pilots involved said that I am a dirty driver

No offense, dude, they're right, that move at turn 2 was an absolute divebomb, you had no chance of making the corner.

 

[praiano63]

I did a test in race condition with the NSX GR3 for next Manufacturer.

Shifting half RPM bar , i could lap 1:34 during 10 laps (i did a mistake lap 10 due to myself not the car. )
I still have gas for more 5 laps = total 15 laps this way.

After this with hard tyres , i was able to lap the same 1:34 , still shifting half RPM bar , but pushing more in the turns, driving a few more agressively but still safe.

I think i will do this way , 9 laps medium + 10 laps hard , same consumption , having to put more 4 laps gas in my tank during pit.


EDIT: I think we don't have the choice of the compound during pit. It must be Hard tyres. If not the case , i would start on hard for 13 laps and 6 laps pushing the pace on medium till the end.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anyone test Gr2 Nations yet? Hopped in the GT-R with TCS on 1 because I am not patient enough with the throttle and ran a best of 1:02.159. Over 27 laps averaged low 1:02's to low 1:03's on both compounds. Splash of fuel on the pit stop so I didn't have to worry about it.

 

[breeminator]

No offense, dude, they're right, that move at turn 2 was an absolute divebomb, you had no chance of making the corner.

If you compare the name of the poster with the name of the driver, you'll see the poster wasn't the divebomber, he was the driver ahead.

 

[05XR8]

I think they need to introduce a pit window at the same time as the 2 compound rule. Saturday's race at Interlagos is 19 laps, so have a pit window from lap 5 to lap 15 and that will stop people just doing 1 lap on the harder compound.

That's how I feel.

 

[pantherjag]

I think they need to introduce a pit window at the same time as the 2 compound rule. Saturday's race at Interlagos is 19 laps, so have a pit window from lap 5 to lap 15 and that will stop people just doing 1 lap on the harder compound.

Saying that they nailed the Nations race on Wednesday so maybe they have this all worked out.

I dont think 1 lap on the hards will be the optimal strategy even when 2 stopping to be honest. Mediums wont do 18 laps and even going 9, 9, 1 would prob be slower than something like 7, 8, 4 as the mediums will be struggling by lap 7/8 I reckon. Tbf iv not tested it yet so I'm speculating here based on experience lol.

One thing for sure new settings has flung the strategy door wide open and I for one think the game is all the better for it.

Anyone test Gr2 Nations yet? Hopped in the GT-R with TCS on 1 because I am not patient enough with the throttle and ran a best of 1:02.159. Over 27 laps averaged low 1:02's to low 1:03's on both compounds. Splash of fuel on the pit stop so I didn't have to worry about it.

Iv done a bit of testing in the Lexus and so far I'm hovering towards a 2 stop with short stint on hards at end as I'm finding that quicker than the 1 stop meds to hard

Depends on qauli really.

Getting into the high 01's in race trim on the mediums at start of stint and finding the hards are actually not to bad

Looks like an interesting race

EDIT: I think we don't have the choice of the compound during pit. It must be Hard tyres. If not the case , i would start on hard for 13 laps and 6 laps pushing the pace on medium till the end.

There is certainly a little bit of ambiguity regarding the new tyre rule. My understanding is simply that you must use the hard tyre at some point in the race. What I'm not sure is whither that means you can use hards the full race distance but unlikely you would chose to do that anyway

 

[GTNihei]

I went with Ferrari for this season. Prancing Horse fans unite! I'm no Schumacher but I will hopefully be able to bring some decent results for the Rosso Corsa-colored legends. They're tricky to drive especially the GT3 but they should improve my skills with MRs

However, I am thinking of starting a second account and racing the guys and girls overseas in the land of the Americana, and I had my eyes set on a certain manufacturer with an FF-MR combo... Volkswagen. Are they any good? I like driving them and I know I can perform in the Beetle, but not sure about the Scirocco. FFs aren't exactly the best tire conservers :/

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Both races at the weekend look like fun tbh, will be interesting to see the strategies people use. I was thinking that the 08 Nissan might be good for the nations race, as it is faster in a straight line, although I don't know about tyre/fuel for that car.

As for the VW, I think the Beetle is a good car. Has ok top speed, and it is pretty good around the corners. The Scirocco is the lightest FF car, so it is probably the best all round FF car as the tyre wear is lower than the others. It can be good at certain tracks, but not sure for this season as it really does depend on tyre wear. It does require a different driving approach because as soon as you mash the throttle you get front tyre wear and the car goes straight, but you can learn it.

 

[Herimopp89]

Anyone test Gr2 Nations yet? Hopped in the GT-R with TCS on 1 because I am not patient enough with the throttle and ran a best of 1:02.159. Over 27 laps averaged low 1:02's to low 1:03's on both compounds. Splash of fuel on the pit stop so I didn't have to worry about it.

I was running some practice ran a 1:01.3 in a race pace 1:01.3-7 is about my average pace.

 

[RZQSPEED]

a certain manufacturer with an FF-MR combo... Volkswagen.

Beetle

You're looking at the GTI VGT if you want an FF/MR combo, as the Beetle is FR.

 

[GTNihei]

You're looking at the GTI VGT if you want an FF/MR combo, as the Beetle is FR.

Really? Even better then! I thought it was just a 911 clone lol

Edit: is the GTI VGT Gr.3 any good or should I juat go for the Beetle?

 

[RZQSPEED]

Really? Even better then! I thought it was just a 911 clone lol

Edit: is the GTI VGT Gr.3 any good or should I juat go for the Beetle?

I would say that you should go for the Beetle, as it's a solid all rounder compared to the GTI, which is more specialised on power tracks (i.e. ones with more straights and slow corners than fast flowing sections).

 

[Hasnain282]

Did both races on Wednesday. Went with the old reliable Honda for Nations. Pulled out a lap that surprised myself to qualify quite high up. The race was just about holding onto the position. Was very tense the whole way through with the driver behind basically within a second all the way. Luckily for me he wasn't the most aggressive in terms of diving under braking and we had a nice battle. Was slight contact here and there but nothing major. In the end a very good score.


Manufacturers was the first time doing a race in the wet conditions so wasn't expecting much. Couldn't put a lap together in quali but an optimal lap wouldn't have gained me many positions anyway. Had a clean race as others had problems, dropped off quite a bit in the last few laps with the tyres going off but result was around what I was aiming for so decent I guess.

Edit: looks like I muted the sound of the onboard rather than the replay in the race for this one. Apologies for those who end up watching

 

[Rods]

Really? Even better then! I thought it was just a 911 clone lol

Edit: is the GTI VGT Gr.3 any good or should I juat go for the Beetle?

The GTI will be great at Interlagos and power oriented tracks, but the Beetle should be good at Maggiore Center and such.

 

[breeminator]

Manufacturers was the first time doing a race in the wet conditions so wasn't expecting much. Couldn't put a lap together in quali but an optimal lap wouldn't have gained me many positions anyway. Had a clean race as others had problems, dropped off quite a bit in the last few laps with the tyres going off but result was around what I was aiming for so decent I guess.

It's a bit galling seeing 3rd place get over 2100 points for a slower total race time than got me 1000 points! However, I wouldn't be competitive at 58k for any other track/weather/car combo.

 

[Hasnain282]

It's a bit galling seeing 3rd place get over 2100 points for a slower total race time than got me 1000 points! However, I wouldn't be competitive at 58k for any other track/weather/car combo.

I was a bit of a cork in the bottle tbh, a few guys behind me were definitely quicker and would've had a better race time had they qualified ahead of me.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Think I'm going to try a 2 stop at Interlagos in the first race to see how it goes. RH for 1 lap, RM for half the race, fresh set of RM for the last half. Let's see if that works or if I'm crazy.

 

[praiano63]

Think I'm going to try a 2 stop at Interlagos in the first race to see how it goes. RH for 1 lap, RM for half the race, fresh set of RM for the last half. Let's see if that works or if I'm crazy.

Perhaps i'm wrong but it seems that you only have the Racing hard tyres option during pit stop.

Regulation
Category: Gr.3
Car Type: Garage Car
Maximum Tire Rating: Racing: Medium
Minimum Tire Rating: Racing: Hard
DR Limit: None
Basic Race Info
Laps: 19 Lap(s)
Total Distance: 50.87 miles
No. of Cars: 20 Cars
Race Start Format: Rolling Start
Race Settings
Mechanical Damage: Light
Boost: None
Reduced Traction Off-course: Real
Slipstream: Real
Pit Info
Est. Pit Stop Lap: --
Pit Stop Loss Time: --
Min No. of Pit Stops: None
Required Tires: Racing Hard
Limit Fuel Tank: None
Refueling Speed: 7 L/sec

 

[CodeRedR51]

Perhaps i'm wrong but it seems that you only have the Racing hard tyres option during pit stop.

Regulation
Category: Gr.3
Car Type: Garage Car
Maximum Tire Rating: Racing: Medium
Minimum Tire Rating: Racing: Hard
DR Limit: None
Basic Race Info
Laps: 19 Lap(s)
Total Distance: 50.87 miles
No. of Cars: 20 Cars
Race Start Format: Rolling Start
Race Settings
Mechanical Damage: Light
Boost: None
Reduced Traction Off-course: Real
Slipstream: Real
Pit Info
Est. Pit Stop Lap: --
Pit Stop Loss Time: --
Min No. of Pit Stops: None
Required Tires: Racing Hard
Limit Fuel Tank: None
Refueling Speed: 7 L/sec

Weird that it shows mediums as the max allowed tire, then it says hard required.

 

[breeminator]

There is a list of tyres you CAN use, that list is medium and hard.
There is a list of tyres you MUST use, that is hard.

So you can use either compound, but you must use hard at some point, or you get a penalty at the end.

Does anyone know at what point you become locked into your choice of compound to start the race? In a practice lobby, it started me on hards, even though I was on mediums at the end of qualifying. I suspect that the tyres you set before starting warm up might be what you start the race with, no matter what you use in qualifying.

Another interesting question is if you start with a mix of medium and hard front and rear, does that count as having used hards?

 

[CodeRedR51]

There is a list of tyres you CAN use, that list is medium and hard.
There is a list of tyres you MUST use, that is hard.

So you can use either compound, but you must use hard at some point, or you get a penalty at the end.

Does anyone know at what point you become locked into your choice of compound to start the race? In a practice lobby, it started me on hards, even though I was on mediums at the end of qualifying. I suspect that the tyres you set before starting warm up might be what you start the race with, no matter what you use in qualifying.

Another interesting question is if you start with a mix of medium and hard front and rear, does that count as having used hards?

Correct. If you want to start the race on hards but opt to qualify on mediums, set it to hards in the car settings, then do a lap in qualifying and pit for mediums. When the race starts the car will have the tires you chose in settings.

 

[praiano63]

Correct. If you want to start the race on hards but opt to qualify on mediums, set it to hards in the car settings, then do a lap in qualifying and pit for mediums. When the race starts the car will have the tires you chose in settings.

I will check first the Asia manufacturer races , just to be sure.

 

[RZQSPEED]

I will check first the Asia manufacturer races , just to be sure.

Or check the Oceania ones, since they started earlier than Asia now.

 

[pantherjag]

You can set your tyres for the race in the interlude between qualifying and FIA introduction

Think it's around 50 seconds

 

[CodeRedR51]

Think I'm going to try a 2 stop at Interlagos in the first race to see how it goes. RH for 1 lap, RM for half the race, fresh set of RM for the last half. Let's see if that works or if I'm crazy.

Just had some laps in the car. This isn't going to work. The RM tires last maybe 5 laps on the Hyundai if you're lucky and then you're like a second off the pace. Might have to stretch those RH's out a bit longer.

 

[05XR8]

Just did a Custom Race with the Gr.4 Brands Hatch Indy settings. Love the track. It's constant speed. Similar to tonight's Gr.2 race at BMB Infield A. Kept me awake for the 28 short laps. Really looking forward to it.

 

[praiano63]

I really don't understand what happen with the tyres . After some test in an online room at BMB infield A , i 've found that i'm almost as fast with racing hard than racing medium. At least at racing pace , lapping 1:02 / 1:03 with both compound.
Same thing at interlagos earlier with GR3. Perhaps because i 'm using the hard for the secong half of the race with less gas in the tank. ??
I don't remember hard tyres been so performant before , or medium been so slow ?? Very strange.

 

[CodeRedR51]

How much is everyone cutting the last hard left at Blue Moon? I've been taking it easy because I don't know how far you can push it without getting a penalty. If you straddle the strips with the GT-R it just throws it into the wall.