FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Alpha Cipher]

All i hear about sore shoulders with wheel users makes me feel less bad about not using one. I would really like to get one one day, but money/space constraints have kept me from investing in it.
I know that if i do get one, it wont work if im sitting in a Laz E Boy with the wheel on my lap. So ill need a stand, but i dont know where to look. Also, wheels just arent that common at the game/electronic stores in my town (nothing but T-80's)
Im pretty sure whenever i do get one, ill probably get a T-150, as i heard they are great entry level wheels, with a good balance of quality and performance. But im still wracking my brain trying to figure out where and how to mount it. I have no clue where to look for stands, or how to tell a good one from a bad one.
Im really considering going to a junkyard and buying an old bucket seat outta some wreck, grab some scrap wood and build my own.
But i dont have 200 to 400 extra dollars just lying around to spend on this, and if i did, theres plenty of other things id be better off spending the money on (like a real car maybe)
And im definitely not buying some cheap, used crap off Kijiji or Ebay or something. If im gonna do it, im gonna do it right.

Well that turned into quite the tangent...
Hahaha

I don't even have a proper seat yet! I just converted my old study table into a mount for the wheel (also where my TV resides) and a monobloc. Yes, the TV rattles when I aggresively countersteer

 

[Nuschel01]

Yeah, but how much does it cost?

250$ apparently. It can be folded away with the wheel attached and barely takes up any space.

I‘ve als had a table that rattled a lot on almost ever occasion before but now that I got the Playseat it‘s a totally different feel of driving

 

[Evolist]

Here's my Manufacturers race from yesterday, iirc it was the 9PM CEST race.

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Again sorry to Michi_Jay for the spin, I was shocked when you clipped into me and spun off. Weirdly this stuff seems to happen quite a lot since the latest update, cars glitch into each other and either one or both crash or spin off
Also sorry to CobraM5 for the small bump, I was already thinking about how to let you through again without loosing any more positions but you were then shunted off in the bus stop
The whole race was a penalty fest, I wish I had set a better time in qualifying to avoid most of it but seeing how mclarenLB ended up I don't really believe it would've been better I know that this wasn't the most clean race I did and I pulled of quite a few optimistic overtakes

EDIT: Shoutout to simonkhtse for the livery 👍

Ahh.
Lap 8 of this race was a total disaster for me. After the accident with mclarenLB І lost my pace and in hairpin І had to let GiovyLM on Citroen to pass me through. And you brake too late and despite enough space in inner line you bump me from behind.
It was that kind of situation when you was overtaken after the contact from behind and you want to gain back you position as soon as possible. As a result you loose your focus and make a little mistake in a bus stop with huge consequences. From P6 to P12 at the end.

 

[Nuschel01]

And you brake too late and despite enough space in inner line you bump me from behind.

I tried to steer away to the inside but then you did, too. I have to admit I maybe braked a little too late but I didn‘t want to go straight into the wall either tbh

It was that kind of situation when you was overtaken after the contact from behind and you want to gain back you position as soon as possible. As a result you loose your focus and make a little mistake in a bus stop with huge consequences. From P6 to P12 at the end.

Yeah I know that feel very well! Sorry again

 

[Silver_Wolf]

I was only able to enter the manufacturers race on Wednesday (22:10 race).

The Toyota 86 seems rather weak for the manufacturers race hower as I was severly underpowered on the Dragon Tail Seaside track
or at the very least I personally felt weak in the race.

I qualified 15th by the end of the 10 minute qualifying session (I was DR C and SR S category btw) and was having a good race but
made the wrong call for the pitstop and went in at the end of Lap 8 but what ruined it was I was going through the quick right hander
at turn 3 and ended up bumping a slow Hyundai that was going through the corner (sorry if anyone on here) and so by the time I
came out of pits I was back in 18th.

Finished 15th with 76 points so was not a bad race but I suspect I could have finished higher. Video footage to follow.

 

[mirial]

I enjoy the challenge the FIA races present. I expect tonight to be rough for me but I'll do my best against the alien swarm.

If there was more feedback from the tyres and if the ABS didn't have such a crippling effect on what little feedback there is and what you should be able to do on entry, I'd certainly make more of an effort with the slower categories, but part of the fun for me is to actually try and get the sensations through simulation of trying to get the car as close to the limit as possible on entry unassisted. The combination of these physics/ABS just makes it a good waste time for most categories IMO, plus you don't gain much that you could use if you race in some form in real life.

Didn't you used to do PURE back in the day?

 

[mclarenLB]

If there was more feedback from the tyres and if the ABS didn't have such a crippling effect on what little feedback there is and what you should be able to do on entry, I'd certainly make more of an effort with the slower categories, but part of the fun for me is to actually try and get the sensations through simulation of trying to get the car as close to the limit as possible on entry unassisted. The combination of these physics/ABS just makes it a good waste time for most categories IMO, plus you don't gain much that you could use if you race in some form in real life.

This has got to be about the 18th time you've posted this by now across different threads

 

[mirial]

This has got to be about the 18th time you've posted this by now across different threads

In some form, not sure the of the number, but funny how such a thing which has such a profound effect on the whole game hasn't generated much interest. Do you or don't you agree?

 

[bloodyboyblue]

In some form, not sure the of the number, but funny how such a thing which has such a profound effect on the whole game hasn't generated much interest. Do you or don't you agree?

Gran Turismo has never been and will be a hardcore simulation. It’s meant to be mostly realistic but still accessible to the general gaming public

 

[mclarenLB]

In some form, not sure the of the number, but funny how such a thing which has such a profound effect on the whole game hasn't generated much interest. Do you or don't you agree?

Man, I just enjoy racing

GT Sport offers the best online racing experience there is, the fine details about the physics and assists and blah-de-blah really don't bother me that much.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Yeah man, thats why i avoid the karts at all costs. The are awful for snap oversteer. Maybe if i had a wheel it wouldn't be so bad

I have to use different wheel settings for the karts and even then, I think about turning the wheel and it can and will spin. That and it punishes my hands to where it reminds me that all those years playing videogames are starting to catch up on me. Yes, I did test out CSA and I was surprised I was not that much faster but far more consistent. I think I'm going to chance it and do the race because any points is better than zero.

 

[mirial]

Man, I just enjoy racing

GT Sport offers the best online racing experience there is, the fine details about the physics and assists and blah-de-blah really don't bother me that much.

I know it does, which is why I just do the bare minimum at the moment because something more favourable might become regular.

Just surprised someone like yourself isn't into the details that's all because it always helps to understand whether you're good or bad, or just going bad

 

[mclarenLB]

I know it does, which is why I just do the bare minimum at the moment because something more favourable might become regular.

Just surprised someone like yourself isn't into the details that's all because it always helps to understand whether you're good or bad, or just going bad

I'm into the details of going as fast as possible within this game, sure, but don't really care that much on how it compares to other sims because the racing just simply isn't there in other sims.

Within the scope of this game, I know tonnes about the assists and how they affect the drive, and obviously ABS Default and everything else off is best for raw pace right now, so that's what I'll use. If PD changes something so another combo of assists is faster... then I'll use that

To be up there with the best you gotta adapt to the situation 👍

 

[CrazyKev420_]

Gran Turismo has never been and will be a hardcore simulation. It’s meant to be mostly realistic but still accessible to the general gaming public

I don't totally agree with people whoud say GT isn't a sim, or its "simcade" ( i hate that nonword)
One thing people don't consider when saying that is that the physics in the GT series has.remained largely unchanged throughout the series over 20 year history. When you play GTS, you can still feel the original game within it. Yes, the physics have been refined and built upon with each release, but the "GT feel" has always been there.
Now, over the years there have been a lot of what I consider to be "GT clones" like Forza, project cars, and Assetto Corsa, and yes, a lot of these clones have surpassed GT in terms of realism, but i think they owe what they are to GT for blazing the trail.
Another thing to consider is, how realistic was the original game compared to what else was available in 1997, as far as i know nothing on consoles could touch it. Maybe there might have been a few niche titles on PC back them that could match GT for realism, but I not aware of any.
Now, keeping in mind how successful the GT series has been, would it really have made sense for PD to completely rebuild the physics too try and match current competitors in realism, not to me. Like they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

 

[4everdelayed]

CSA is overpowered as hell on kartings. I doubt anyone with CSA off will win any of the nations cup races...

 

[mclarenLB]

CSA is overpowered as hell on kartings. I doubt anyone with CSA off will win any of the nations cup races...

*Waves*

 

[adstomko]

CSA is overpowered as hell on kartings. I doubt anyone with CSA off will win any of the nations cup races...

They should introduce wet racing with slicks on (wishful thinking) and without CSA simultaneously. That would be fantastic

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Thinking about it, the DR ratings will probably not be considered for the real championship. I reckon it'll be time trial/quali based, then the fastest drivers within a certain time limit will be grouped in a race. Not saying this will happen, but trying to pick out the lobby with the highest points in offer shouldn't be a thing

 

[DriftMethod]

CSA is overpowered as hell on kartings. I doubt anyone with CSA off will win any of the nations cup races...

No offense, but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. In GT Sport I can decently drive race cars that are way beyond my actual skill in real life. In GT Sport I can barely get a kart around a track, yet karts are quite easy to handle in real life. I find it a bit odd to say CSA is OP, when it brings karting in game closer to reality. It might be more accurate to say karting is underpowered as hell without CSA.

 

[suprajef]

Somewhat late but my Manufacturer's race. One thing I found out on some post-race practice was that the bus stop was easier in bumper cam.

Bad race for me hitting the chicane on the last lap lol

 

[adstomko]

Given that the FIA races are less frequent now, I think they should separate the Daily Race DR ratings from the FIA races. So you join races depending on whether you're simply 'A+,' then wherever you finish in FIA races is separate

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Bad race for me hitting the chicane on the last lap lol

I was wondering what happened with you at the chicane. At least on my replay, you seemed to make it just fine and they, bam, right into the wall.

Last night, I realized there was one earlier FIA race I had a replay for that I didn't upload. To think there was a time where I actually had a chance to podium. Those days are definitely over now! Anything above 10th will be a miracle now.

 

[4everdelayed]

No offense, but I think you're looking at it the wrong way. In GT Sport I can decently drive race cars that are way beyond my actual skill in real life. In GT Sport I can barely get a kart around a track, yet karts are quite easy to handle in real life. I find it a bit odd to say CSA is OP, when it brings karting in game closer to reality. It might be more accurate to say karting is underpowered as hell without CSA.

It's true that competition kartings are known for being very tame. It only has 50hp after all!

Anyway, as expected this was a joke of a race.

 

[mthomas_95]

My worst qualifying session in months in Manufacturers (17th in the Ferrari, at a time of day setting with next to no grip, in a lobby full of aliens in meta cars ), followed by one of my smartest races getting into the top 10. Didn't even have to rely on people hitting the barriers that much, just kept it clean and a nice undercut to avoid some no stoppers who were holding people up 👍

 

[Venster]

My worst qualifying session in months in Maunfacturers (17th in the Ferrari, at a time of day setting with next to no grip, in a lobby full of aliens in meta cars ), followed by one of my smartest races getting into the top 10. Didn't even have to rely on people hitting the barriers that much, just kept it clean and a nice undercut to avoid some no stoppers who were holding people up 👍

Glad to hear it’s not just me experiencing the no grip, granted the Atenza is not the greatest car in terms of raw pace (especially with me) but good grief just once let me get the power down

What were the quali times out of interest?

 

[mthomas_95]

Glad to hear it’s not just me experiencing the no grip, granted the Atenza is not the greatest car in terms of raw pace (especially with me) but good grief just once let me get the power down

What were the quali times out of interest?

Yeah the racing hards just don't grip as well when it's a dawn or dusk time setting. Mid afternoon usually is the fastest as the temperature is in the tyre's peak operating window.

Low 56s at the front, I was too conservative at the end of the lap so a high 56 ended up being a 57.4

 

[Venster]

Thanks for that didn’t know time of day had such an affect. Been struggling which granted it’s not my best track by a long way but couldn’t set anything like my best thought it was me being worst than usual!!

 

[Slentom]

I can't bear those penalties anymore. I can't believe that the OFFICIAL FIA championship will start with that stupid system.
Giorgio crashed at start, I couldn't avoid him, got 2sec penalties. Well.
Bellof slowed sooooo much at turn 7, couldn't avoid him, got 6sec. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell.
Finished 14th. I don't deserve that.

 

[Nuschel01]

I just won the kart race but only due to the game giving the actual winner a 1 second penalty on the finish line for a bump that never happened in my game We were drafting for the whole race and had a comfy gap to P3 Really fun race, too bad it was ruined by GTS obnoxius penalties:censored:
So sorry again to RC_Snake91 for having your win stolen

Nurb GP just isn‘t my track, qualified 19th, got up to P11 only to throw away 2 positions in the final lap in Schumacher-S

 

[str1ker2k7]

That penalty system, i wanna punch my ps4 out of the window...

 

[commanderr]

Got a win in the kart race stolen by 0.046 of a second by a guy who was blocking the whole race. Had to recover from a ridicoulous 5 second penalty which i got for avoiding him. Closed a 5 second gap to him but he kept blocking and running me off the track. But no penalty for him on the finishline...