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Hey guys, I've spent the last few days levelling an NA account up, today we should finally have the DR to go into the NA FIA Top Split

I've always wanted to check out what difference really is between EMEA and NA, tonight I should find out



Disclaimer: I have no intention of trying to qualify in NA or disrupt the races in anyway, just here for fun :)
 
Manufacturers: The question is, starting on Hard and then Mediums or the other way around ? I will most likely be a back marker in the race so I'm thinking I would start on hard.

Question: Do the "dirty air" situation also increase the tire wear ?
It would increase the tyre wear but not significantly as most corners at Monza in the GR3s are pretty slow so not downforce dependent. Picking up a slipstream down those straights far outweighs what you might lose through tyre wear from dirty air

I started on hards and kept them on for 11 laps! To me the drop off wasn't significant enough to warrant an extra pit stop and I was about 2s slower on old hards than new mediums
 
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From 1st to 2nd at Monza in the GT-R, ended up losing to an AMG which was no doubt much better on tyres and fuel than me

Qualified on pole by miles. Bottled T1 somewhat and somehow got out of it with no penalties. Ended up battling with a clown in a Mustang for the first few laps who insisted on going defensive at every corner. I was 5 seconds behind the leader at the end and I probably lost at least 2 or 3 in those fights (I was also fuel saving towards the end, but I would have been too far back from the Merc then to catch up) so I was glad to just beat him into 3rd.

1564 points is a new record for me, and I pretty much couldn't have run a better race. As much as the GT-R is the best car for this track, the fuel was just harsh enough that I was always going to struggle against pretty much anything. I also two-stopped to the AMG's one, which is always going to be risky at Monza but I didn't have a choice. Ah well.
 
Avoided most the races this season after regretting picking Aston Martin but had a feeling the car would be strong at Monza and I was right :)

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(Took a screen shot just as it did that camera flash thing! doh :lol:)

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Slightly annoyed with the red SR though as I was given 2 one second penalties for getting rammed from behind by people not braking for corners! :confused:!
 
Another day, and another (mostly) successful FIA race at Kyoto. I qualified and finished 4th this time in the Mazda LM55. I took 3rd on the first lap and held it until my first stop (I decided to do a 2-stopper) and then ran wide at 135R (the fast left-hander after the up-hill Esses) and smacked the wall on the other side of the track. By the time I gathered it up I'd lost 2 more positions and 6 seconds. In the end I crossed the line in 5th but got 4th because 3rd place got a penalty for not using both tire compounds. If I hadn't run wide on my first out lap, I would've been fighting for 3rd (or 4th place on the track before the guy in front of us got the tire penalty), so I'm tempted to run this race again, especially since the car that ultimately inherited 3rd was the only other Mazda in the race, and he started behind me. At the same time I don't really want to risk the points I got from this race (1341).
 
Been a while hasn’t it? I’ve been out of action for most of the second half of the season, after undergoing wrist surgery, and needing time to let it heal. Ah, the joys of getting old. It seems to be getting better, although I had hoped to compete at Kyoto Driving Park instead, and skip Monza altogether. Best laid plans and all that. I started 12th on Hards, and kept to the left approaching Turn 1, expecting the same carnage of every other round at Monza. Sure enough, a Huracan from the back of the grid clipped a 911 as it attempted an idiotic overtake on the right-side grass, and barrelled sideways into traffic, as mayhem broke out in the chicane. Some 6 or 7 cars were involved in accidents in T1 or shortly after it, but miraculously I emerged unscathed, and gained 3 places in the opening minutes.

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I was squeezed out of 9th by a Corvette wanting to partake in some wing-mirror jousting, but gained another place passing the penalty zone. I decided against pushing further and set the fuel limiter to 2, holding steady and reigning in the Aston’s thirsty V12. The next few laps saw some great running battles with both an RC-F and and a McLaren 650S - I managed to out brake both in the final turn, the wonderfully titled ‘Curva Parabolica’. Things just sound better in Italian. The drivers ahead pitted early on Lap 8, but with plenty of fuel left and some barely worn tires, I stayed out and moved up as high as 4th. A yellow flag on lap 9 got my hopes up of a podium finish, sadly it was the last placed Huracan from earlier spinning out at Curve di Lesmo. As my tires wore down I managed to rescue the Aston from a few of my own yellow flags, pitting on Lap 11 for a change to mediums, and a splash of fuel to get me over the line.

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I re-entered the race in 6th, and set about pushing forward up the ladder. At least that was the plan. I fought the final few laps against the S-Road Nismo GT-R and the Martini Porsche, but ended up clipping the rear of the GT-R at the first chicane, sending it off the track and gaining a 3 second penalty. Serving the penalty I lost two places, but managed to grab one back on the final lap, finishing in 7th and bagging 366 points. 3rd in my hometown and 229th in Oceania - not bad!

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Someone commented on a photo I took of my Hyundai's that I ran in this exhibition round and said that I was on track to win the manufactures championship. Not sure exactly what he meant, but after running fairly well for the first handful of rounds I ended up not running the rest of the season due to scheduling conflicts. And it may just end up being that way for the next season. I might be able to catch the last two Wednesday night races but now that it's cooled off here in Arizona I'm spending my Saturday nights doing things away from a television so I doubt I will be able to commit to the Saturday races. I wish they ran them on Sundays instead.

Edit: In any case, I'll be giving these two brutes a shot for the next round.

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For Manufactures I decided to skip the first slot so I could get some late practice in and joined the second one, where I qualified 3rd. Unfortunately, a couple of mistakes on my part during the first half of the race resulted in me dropping several positions. But despite this, I managed to recover thanks to a 9H/8M pit strategy, and I made it to 5th place by the final lap...until this happened at T1:

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And to add insult to injury, I got a 2 second penalty. The Mercedes driver did apologize afterwards and looking at the replay, they braked a little too late and tried to avoid me and the Porsche but it just didn’t work out. So it wasn’t deliberate. But because of this incident I had to settle for 8th.

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Needless to say, Monza is a crapshoot, at least the chicane version. I decided not to bother trying this again. This wasn't the best way to end the season, but overall, this was much better than my last season with Dodge. I really feel that the Huracan race cars suit my driving style, so Lamborghini will be a regular choice in Manufactures for me going forward. :)
 
Not the best qualy lap but decent pace throught. Top 16 Superstars Nations race for the Central and South American region.




What a round! I absolute love Monza, one of the best tracks for me in the game. Great qualifying lap and big battle for the win. This is the Top 16 Superstars Manufacturers race for the Central and South American region.

 
So my final race for BMW was disappointing (again!). Why do people feel the need to ruin other people’s races for fun? :confused: It’s happened to me too many times. Think I’m targeted on purpose...don’t want to say why!! :( Really makes me wonder why I bother with these FIA races :guilty:

I was always going to have a tough race in the Z4 being about a second slower per lap than the quicker cars but put it on 11th in qualifying which I was pleased with. Lap 1, got through turn one ok, the car in front started weaving wildly to block me as I had a better exit from the corner. I pulled alongside to overtake and got violently rammed off. That put me last well behind everyone I was also given a 3 second penalty and the idiot who caused it immediately quit after succeeding to ruin my race. So once again had to spend the entire race playing catch up.

Finished 12th in the end so could have been worse.
 
The final round was a bit interesting. I qualified 9th due to screwing up my 2nd lap (would've started 2nd if I had got it right). First turn was a carnage as usual, I get a bit too late on the brakes and punt someone, SR down but fortunately he didn't lose any positions. Going into turn 3 someone does the same to me, but luckily this only benefits me and I manage to escape the mid pack trap. I rapidly climb up position up to 3rd place after the pit stop, but the Mustang is simply too fast on a straight line to keep up so I finish 4th. I was the fastest driver for Mercedes though!

So, 180th in EMEA... where's my S rank? :confused::confused:
 
Great, I'm unavailable for the 7th and that's one of the few rounds that might be good for the Gr.4 GT-R.
 
Going into the final Manufacturers race, I had a feeling that the Viper would be well suited to Monza. Wasn't expecting to get a good result following the tribulations at Kyoto, but found a workable strategy in my first practice lobby and built up from there.

Entered the 21:10 slot as a one-man army, qualified 9th while offering a tow to the blue BMW behind me. This was achieved on my second lap - a 1:48.927 - despite an issue where a slow-moving NSX moved across into my path on the run to Parabolica. Had to dive to the inside to avoid a possible collision, compromising my line and exit speed for the third and final lap. Wasn't too bothered about that, especially since I felt confident that on BB +1, the Viper was stable and consistent enough to make gains during the race.

Started the race on BB +5, survived an incident where a Porsche shoved the BMW into my passenger side door at the first chicane. Kept my nose down as other cars suffered mishaps, mistakes and penalties, all while trying to save fuel and look after my first set of Mediums. Before long, I am following a train of cars battling for the lead, and a penalty for the TX3 GT-R sends me up to 5th by the end of Lap 2. On Lap 5, the GT-R in question slipstreams past me and cuts the first chicane to try and pass the Porsche in front, picking up another penalty. Despite accidentally tapping the Porsche at the chicane exit - which I apologised for in lobby chat afterwards - I continue to keep chase, changing brake bias to +1 as the rears start to lose bite. At Ascari, the GT-R runs wide and loses control, causing me to swerve onto the grass as he then collides with and smashes the BMW into the barrier. Later found out through my replay that the BMW received a 5-second penalty through that accident, on top of suspension, aero and engine damage - a rather unfortunate and undeserved one at that. From the outset, my main focus was on being consistent and not making any rash moves on other drivers, despite occasionally getting good slipstream attempts down the start-finish straight and making massive gains over the course of the stint. By the start of Lap 7, I was only just under three seconds behind the leading AMGs, and was still gaining on them on worn Mediums before they took on fresh rubber and fuel. In an effort to try and overhaul them, I stayed out until Lap 8, inheriting the lead, but at the cost of putting up with additional wear and instability through the chicanes.

With my initial advantage over the AMGs slashed in half, I finally pit at the end of the lap, taking on Mediums and 81% fuel - a combination that I'll admit never tried during either of my practice lobbies. Despite being hounded by another AMG on my out lap, progress through the field resumed. More penalties and pitstop cycles see me climb back up as far as 2nd as the Porsche and one of the AMGs pitted, and by Lap 14 I was prepared to take on the mandatory Hards. There was an awkward moment before my stop, however; while I was preparing to come in, the grey AMG attempted to pass on the inside of Parabolica as I ran wide. He committed to the move despite my attempts to indicate that I was pitting; I backed out, but turned in too early and ended up hitting the left-rear of the AMG as it passed. As with the Porsche earlier, I apologised and made up with him in lobby chat afterwards. Knowing full well that I would be losing ground to cars on Mediums, shouts of a podium at this point were well and truly silenced. Hence, when the red Corvette slipstreamed past to take 4th from me on Lap 16, I was content with not fighting him, and I was prepared to do the same on the final lap with a purple and yellow AMG - the same one who pressured me at the start of my second stint - until he picked up a 1-second penalty for cutting the first turn at Ascari. The AMG couldn't make a pass through Parabolica and ran out of fuel on the approach to the line, allowing me to come home in 5th place, on 7% fuel and with 1,564 points. Another solid top 10 finish for the Viper, and a fine way to close off the season.

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Final Results
So, after seven rounds and eight race attempts, how did the Viper experiment go? Even if I didn't improve on my misfortune at the Nürburgring and Kyoto rounds, I enjoyed using both Gr.3 and Gr.4 versions for similar reasons to the Mustangs in the main season. A string of consistent top 10 finishes - including 4th at Brands Indy and possible podium chances at Lago Maggiore and Monza - compel me to believe that Dodge was very much underrated this year. Overall, I scored a total of 7,756 points - just 179 points shy from my total in the main season - which was good enough for me to finish 5th for Dodge and 102nd in EMEA. Certainly would consider signing up with the Vipers again for a future season pending any BoP changes down the road.

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And @TRL LIGHTNING, if you are reading this, great job on getting Dodge back into the overall Top 10. Best of luck for the coming seasons. 👍
 
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I put next season's races into a table

Very handy, thank you 👍

Final Results
So, after seven rounds and eight race attempts, how did the Viper experiment go? Even if I didn't improve on my misfortune at the Nürburgring and Kyoto rounds, I enjoyed using both Gr.3 and Gr.4 versions for similar reasons to the Mustangs in the main season. A string of consistent top 10 finishes - including 4th at Brands Indy and possible podium chances at Lago Maggiore and Monza - compel me to believe that Dodge was very much underrated this year. Overall, I scored a total of 7,756 points - just 179 points shy from my total in the main season - which was good enough for me to finish 5th for Dodge and 102nd in EMEA. Certainly would consider signing up with the Vipers again for a future season pending any BoP changes down the road.

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And @TRL LIGHTNING, if you are reading this, great job on getting Dodge back into the overall Top 10. Best of luck for the coming seasons. 👍

Great job for Dodge this season bud, you've had some great races and with a bit more luck would have been much further up the points table. Great write up as well, keep them coming :cheers:
 
Disclaimer: I have no intention of trying to qualify in NA or disrupt the races in anyway, just here for fun :)
I understand why you've used that wording, as it relates to one wording of the rule against using multiple accounts. However, while your 6 stop win was quite entertaining, I still think it's against the rules to do it. If you look at either the website for sport mode, or go into sport mode in the game, the exhibition seasons are still called "FIA Gran Turismo Championship", so I believe it is intended that the rules reached by clicking on "FIA Gran Turismo Championship Overview" apply to them. In those rules, it says:

"Multiple Accounts
If it is found that a competitor is participating through multiple PSN accounts, and/or is partaking in any activity that interferes with other competitors' races, said competitor may be disqualified from the Championships."

To me, what you did violates that rule, regardless of your intent, as the wording no longer talks about intent in the way it used to.

Even so, simply being in the race is changing the outcome of that race and affecting the points won by everyone in every split, as you've pushed someone down to the next split, who in turn pushes someone down into the next split etc.
 
First exhibition seasons went well with 2 results of over 1000 points which was a first for me, still felt like I could have gotten some better results than I did, still fairy happy with what I got. I know what areas I need to improve on more than others mainly qualifying as well as cutting out silly little errors. Already changed manufacturer from Aston Martin to Ferrari which we'll see how that goes, I know that there both good on fuel and the gr4 is a great car to drive more so than the GT3 car was. Just need to sort out my liveries out now for the following season.
 
So next season won’t be having any races in the best Tokyo layout, South inner loop, either. Just two races in outer loop :grumpy:. And DT seaside:grumpy::grumpy:.
C’mon PD, shake things up a bit, give us variety.
 
So next season won’t be having any races in the best Tokyo layout, South inner loop, either. Just two races in outer loop :grumpy:. And DT seaside:grumpy::grumpy:.
C’mon PD, shake things up a bit, give us variety.
Ah whoops that's a mistake from me, round 5 of Nations is Inner Loop, edited initial post
 
I understand why you've used that wording, as it relates to one wording of the rule against using multiple accounts. However, while your 6 stop win was quite entertaining, I still think it's against the rules to do it. If you look at either the website for sport mode, or go into sport mode in the game, the exhibition seasons are still called "FIA Gran Turismo Championship", so I believe it is intended that the rules reached by clicking on "FIA Gran Turismo Championship Overview" apply to them. In those rules, it says:

"Multiple Accounts
If it is found that a competitor is participating through multiple PSN accounts, and/or is partaking in any activity that interferes with other competitors' races, said competitor may be disqualified from the Championships."

To me, what you did violates that rule, regardless of your intent, as the wording no longer talks about intent in the way it used to.

Even so, simply being in the race is changing the outcome of that race and affecting the points won by everyone in every split, as you've pushed someone down to the next split, who in turn pushes someone down into the next split etc.

I've kind of "been there, done that" when it comes to GT Live Events, if they want to ban me for having some mindless fun, so be it honestly.

Its Exhibition period, none of these seasons will qualify anyone for anything until March-ish time, I won't do it in the Official Season.
 
.... having some mindless fun ....
Its Exhibition period, none of these seasons will qualify anyone for anything until March-ish time, I won't do it in the Official Season.
You still get Star Player status from them, which some people might care about. If I had some US aliens basically trolling me in one of my races, pushing me down the finishing order, and ruining that race for me as a result, I wouldn't see their activities as "mindless fun", and I doubt I'd be the only one.
 
If I had some US aliens basically trolling me in one of my races, pushing me down the finishing order, and ruining that race for me as a result

I'm not doing any of these things, there's zero mechanical difference between winning a race with a 35 second lead, and winning a race with 6 pit stops. At no point has anyone taken issue with my driving on track either (because I make sure its immaculate, I don't want to impact anyone)

If its someones elses fault you didn't get Star Player, or its someone elses fault you aren't scoring better, that's a very pessimistic attitude to have and probably the root cause of why you aren't doing better.
 
I got nowhere fast at the Driving Park, killed my Rank, back down to D :banghead:

I messed up T1 at Monza and ran wide at the last corner too many times :indiff: on fuel mix 4 I was catching people and probably could of done the whole race on hards and without all mistakes I could of got into the top 6 in my second C class FIA race.
I’ll just have to console myself with that, by the end of the race I was lapping within 1-3seconds of the leader on meds and managed to unlap.
Just the way, the cookie crumbles sometimes when your not entirely in the zone, I gave up on the remaining races and also missed the first few due to connection failures.
 
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I'm not doing any of these things, there's zero mechanical difference between winning a race with a 35 second lead, and winning a race with 6 pit stops. At no point has anyone taken issue with my driving on track either (because I make sure its immaculate, I don't want to impact anyone)

If its someones elses fault you didn't get Star Player, or its someone elses fault you aren't scoring better, that's a very pessimistic attitude to have and probably the root cause of why you aren't doing better.
You ARE impacting everyone in both the race you are in, and every split below, because you are affecting the points people obtain in all those races.

I did get star player, but with only 500-600 points to spare. I'd only have had to lose about 7 places across my counting races to not get it, and I shouldn't have to race against people who aren't from my region, because the criteria for getting star player are based on the strength of each region, so adding top players from other regions into the mix violates the assumptions used in setting the criteria. It's fundamentally wrong for you to be taking points away from people in another region, as well as against the rules.

As for thinking it's someone else's fault I'm not doing better, the fact is not everyone has the same talent - for almost everyone in the world, there are people they will never be able to beat, and if one or more of those people from another region is in their race, it will reduce their score, and that isn't something that is supposed to be part of the game.

Take it to an extreme, suppose there were 10 people in the world who are better than the best in EMEA, and they entered every EMEA FIA race, ensuring that no EMEA driver can finish higher than 11th in top split, meaning that the best EMEA drivers get slaughtered by the people finishing high up in 2nd and 3rd split. You wouldn't see that as being in any way wrong, or a problem?
 
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