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S Rank invitations went out today. Check in game, when you load Sport Mode you should get a message.
Yeah. I just saw my message to "Re-submit".. My last race(Daily Race C), I was A/S yesterday and how am I S/S this morning without playing?
 
Is Mitsubishi slow? I don’t see any one driving for them in Manufacturers and they have been on the bottom of the global manu ranking for a long time. :confused::confused:
 
Yes Mitsubishi is very slow. I drove for them for the main FIA season and it took about 10k off my DR points. They can just about compete at Autopolis, Interlagos and the Kyoto tracks, and that is about it. They are hilariously off the pace at any track with straights.
 
Anyone tested for Tokyo Gr4 Manufactures yet? I did a offline custom race with the same settings, not sure how accurate that is. One pit stop, Viper needed a few laps of fuel added if you stay on map 1 the whole time. Might be able to skip adding fuel if you do a lot of drafting and short shifting in the race. Then again some cars are better on fuel than others...
 
There's a new points system for Exhibition Season 2. Note that PD are still struggling with dates where "Saturday, 13 November" surely means Wednesday 13 November.

https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/news/00_8506374.html

The point system implemented in the 'FIA Gran Turismo Championships' will receive an update with the beginning of the '2019/20 Exhibition Series - Season 2', starting on Saturday, 13 November.

The changes will be as follow:

1. The amount of points acquired per Round will be reduced;
2. Players will no longer see a variation or reduction of points earned based on the number of drivers participating in the race.

Please note the acquired points will continue to be determined automatically based on the average Driver Rating from all players participating in the race.
 
Anyone tested for Tokyo Gr4 Manufactures yet? I did a offline custom race with the same settings, not sure how accurate that is. One pit stop, Viper needed a few laps of fuel added if you stay on map 1 the whole time. Might be able to skip adding fuel if you do a lot of drafting and short shifting in the race. Then again some cars are better on fuel than others...

I can confirm that a custom race is exactly the same as lobby with the same settings. I do a lot of testing in custom races and can always replicate it online.

In fact if anything tyrewear seems marginally worse in custom race at the same settings as lobby which I see as an advantage as I know when it comes go the real thing my tyrewear should be better.

There's a new points system for Exhibition Season 2. Note that PD are still struggling with dates where "Saturday, 13 November" surely means Wednesday 13 November.

https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/news/00_8506374.html

The point system implemented in the 'FIA Gran Turismo Championships' will receive an update with the beginning of the '2019/20 Exhibition Series - Season 2', starting on Saturday, 13 November.

The changes will be as follow:

1. The amount of points acquired per Round will be reduced;
2. Players will no longer see a variation or reduction of points earned based on the number of drivers participating in the race.

Please note the acquired points will continue to be determined automatically based on the average Driver Rating from all players participating in the race.

Interesting stuff. Another examples of them listening to the players regarding the FIA championship as these were 2 complaints high on the list.

Off course without knowing the new points system perhaps to early to say "well done PD" but the fact disconnects wont effect the points is very welcome
 
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Top 16 races are Round 5 on Dec. 4 Wednesday. So early.
'Top 16 Superstars' programme for the 2019/20 Exhibition Series - Season 2 will not be released.
 
Top 16 races are Round 5 on Dec. 4 Wednesday. So early.
'Top 16 Superstars' programme for the 2019/20 Exhibition Series - Season 2 will not be released.

Yeah the messaging around the Top 16 Superstars race is really unclear. Fortunately it's something I don't have to massively worry about :lol:
 
So since I just got back to DR B and SR S in time for the start of exhbition season 2 does this change with the points system mean it
may be more benefit to me being in B rank for matchmaking or I mgiht have a harder time, it will be interesting to see what the new
points system actual is when it comes in on Wednesday.
 
Anyone tested for Tokyo Gr4 Manufactures yet? I did a offline custom race with the same settings, not sure how accurate that is. One pit stop, Viper needed a few laps of fuel added if you stay on map 1 the whole time. Might be able to skip adding fuel if you do a lot of drafting and short shifting in the race. Then again some cars are better on fuel than others...

I've tested the majority of the 'competitive' Gr.4 cars around that track over the last week and the Viper is actually one of the best for fuel running in map 1 (no short shifting). Only Porsche beat it on fuel use.
 
I've tested the majority of the 'competitive' Gr.4 cars around that track over the last week and the Viper is actually one of the best for fuel running in map 1 (no short shifting). Only Porsche beat it on fuel use.
Good news for me then. :D
 
2. Players will no longer see a variation or reduction of points earned based on the number of drivers participating in the race.
Does this mean you can end up in a lobby with a bunch of disconnects and still get the normal amount of points for finishing? It'll be interesting to see the various oddities with a new system.
 
Does this mean you can end up in a lobby with a bunch of disconnects and still get the normal amount of points for finishing? It'll be interesting to see the various oddities with a new system.
I'm speculating that the reason they have done this is to stop the cheating that was happening where a player would get a score they're happy with in a race, then join later slots on an alt account and disconnect to reduce the points in that lobby.
 
I'm speculating that the reason they have done this is to stop the cheating that was happening where a player would get a score they're happy with in a race, then join later slots on an alt account and disconnect to reduce the points in that lobby.
I suppose it could be to combat something other people do that's so tragic I couldn't even have imagined or thought of it, yes. Dearie me.
 
Anyone mention the reason for no FIA races on Wednesdays in December? Next races pick up on Christmas day.
 
The fact that the Manufacturers Series has a race where everything's TBA would seem to imply that a new track is coming. I wonder what it could be? And I bet whatever it is, it'd be coming in this month's update, likely alongside the Jaguar VGT Coupe. I'm pretty excited, given that the only two GT Sport original locales that follow the naming format of locales that do get additional layouts are Alsace and Colorado Springs. That's before we get into returning courses from prior games (both real and original), real-world courses that would be new to GT, or new locales entirely like St. Croix.

My personal ideal picks would be as follows:
-Returning Real: Silverstone, Laguna Seca, Ascari, Daytona, Indianapolis, Sonoma, Twin Ring Motegi, Cote d'Azur, Fuji '80s, Brands Hatch '80s, or Monza 80s.
-Returning Original: Circuito de la Sierra, Apricot Hill, or Circuito di Roma.
-New Real: Lime Rock Park, Watkins Glen, Sebring, or Circuit of the Americas
-New Original: Additional layouts for Alsace or Colorado Springs
 
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I'm speculating that the reason they have done this is to stop the cheating that was happening where a player would get a score they're happy with in a race, then join later slots on an alt account and disconnect to reduce the points in that lobby.
A tactic I've feared but haven't seen in practice to my memory. Realistically, many people simply have dodgy connections or poor setups. Even one disconnect can have a big impact in a top split room so this is welcome news.
 
Ye I've not seen anyone do that at all from memory. I've seen people say "ooo this and that" but there's no concrete proof of it and it really would have minimum impact.

I spoke to PD at Nurburgring when they said they were going to look at it and I sent them a version of points system I'd use and Jomas also sent a document just in case it would help with anything. I'm looking forward to seeing how this new points system works and fingers crossed it removes DR tanking which is one of the big issues with it, along with the disconnects dropping points.
 
Ye I've not seen anyone do that at all from memory. I've seen people say "ooo this and that" but there's no concrete proof of it and it really would have minimum impact.
Someone claimed that a specific account was an alt account of a top split driver, and had been doing it, but I don't know how rigorous that person's analysis was to reach that conclusion. It can make a significant difference, though, I've seen races where disconnects meant that someone went from having a chance to increase their points to being guaranteed the result wouldn't count, even if they won. If you wanted an example, I'd struggle to find it as there would be a lot of material to search through, but that's my recollection of what I've seen on some streams in the past.
 
It can make a significant difference, though, I've seen races where disconnects meant that someone went from having a chance to increase their points to being guaranteed the result wouldn't count, even if they won.


A good example of this was a race Kie was in. A lot of the drivers got disconnected and the points dropped tremendously. Look up "Where did Everyone go." I'm not saying they were cheating. Just showing how significant it is when the top guys get disconnected.

Keith.
 
Is Mitsubishi slow? I don’t see any one driving for them in Manufacturers and they have been on the bottom of the global manu ranking for a long time. :confused::confused:

I used Mitsu for the official Manu season. In terms of top speed, the Gr.3 car is tied 3rd slowest with Subaru (only Mazda and Renault are slower). Its advantages are braking (almost as good as Subaru), good stability and fuel saving (short shifting doesn't affect it too much). It's not the greatest Gr.3 but on technical tracks it can hold its own. Just be prepared to be passed on every straight even if you're drafting (!). The Gr.4 on the other hand, is completely hopeless on anything other than start-stop short tracks (imagine Monza but the straights are cut in half). It's joint second slowest car with Subaru (only Megane Trophy is slower), eats front tyres and because it only has 5 gears short shifting loses acceleration massively. Braking and traction is good but that's about it. Honestly, unless you're an alien I would not suggest using Mitsu unless you're just doing it for the lulz :p
 
I used Mitsu for the official Manu season. In terms of top speed, the Gr.3 car is tied 3rd slowest with Subaru (only Mazda and Renault are slower). Its advantages are braking (almost as good as Subaru), good stability and fuel saving (short shifting doesn't affect it too much). It's not the greatest Gr.3 but on technical tracks it can hold its own. Just be prepared to be passed on every straight even if you're drafting (!). The Gr.4 on the other hand, is completely hopeless on anything other than start-stop short tracks (imagine Monza but the straights are cut in half). It's joint second slowest car with Subaru (only Megane Trophy is slower), eats front tyres and because it only has 5 gears short shifting loses acceleration massively. Braking and traction is good but that's about it. Honestly, unless you're an alien I would not suggest using Mitsu unless you're just doing it for the lulz :p
My favourite memory of the Gr.4 Mitsubishi was at Interlagos when I would come out the last corner about 0.2 secs behind someone and be 0.5 behind going into the 1st corner. I could almost sense the bafflement of the driver in front wondering why I was fuel saving in a race that had no issues with fuel (I wasn't fuel saving). Note that this was up against the straight line monster Porsche Cayman, and I had a similar experience at Kyoto behind a Mercedes.

Do not drive the Gr.4 Mitsubishi unless you enjoy pain :)
 
A look a round 1 of the manufactuers championship for the new season

An interesting combo and a tough one to work out the optimal strategy due to the slipstream factor



Anyways hopefully some useful stuff in there.
 
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