FITT: "British Invasion" Congrats to - praiano63, DolHaus, Motor City Hami, Otaliema

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by Bowtie-muscle, Oct 29, 2014.

  1. shaunm80

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    @Bowtie-muscle - Put me down for pro touring class tester (tentative at moment). I will give it a go but I will have to see what time I have available when testing begins. If I can test a couple of tunes a day, I should be able to do it. Ill let you know closer to the time for definite.
     
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  2. Bowtie-muscle

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    As of now, 8 are signed up to tune with @DolHaus being tentative, 14 days to test so you could do 1 a day, they do not have to be done in one sitting. I never test all tunes in one sitting. Thanks for considering and signing up, even if tentative for now.
     
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  3. DolHaus

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    I'm only about a tenth faster so I'd say you were in the ball park :tup:

    I can confirm that I will be testing for the GT class (unless anything unexpected comes up)
     
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  4. shaunm80

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    My car is so slow compared to yours at the moment.. I really need to spend some time on the FITT cars but I am struggling to find the time needed right now. Ill get it right eventually though.
     
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  5. Otaliema

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    @Bowtie-muscle mark me as for sure Pro class tester we need more than two sets of times.
    @shaunm80 bounce your tunes off another driver that has dissimilar style to you that way you find the middle ground on it so it works for more people. :)
     
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  6. DolHaus

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    A lot of it is just learning the track, its not an easy one as the cars are far from stable and the track has a few sections where you can easily lose time
     
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  7. Otaliema

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    Very true @DolHaus on reverse turns 4,5,6 are good for 3 seconds alone.
     
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  8. DolHaus

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    Theres a lot of hills on certain turns that just upset the cars, the problem is that if you're not on the limit through those sections then you drop a lot of time. Certainly a challenge, if the car is stable then it is slow but there is a very thin line between fast and completely unstable
     
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  9. shaunm80

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    My car is stable and feels smooth on cornering, It just is slow.. So its as you have highlighted, I can't drive beyond a certain limit.. I may just make my car a little less stable, gain a second and then leave it in the hands of the testers. If I can drive it consistently and safely, others should be able to get a better time out of it. :)
     
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  10. DolHaus

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    Sometimes you've got to gamble if you want to win :tup:
     
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  11. shaunm80

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    I think this time, because i will not be 100% happy with the tune, I will throw something out there that may be good or may be bad. I won't lose anything for trying.
     
  12. DaBomm4

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    Tuned with ABS 1, no other aids, DS3

    MG TF160 '03
    460 pp
    262 hp @ 7,100 rpm
    229 ft-lb @ 5,400 rpm
    1000 kg
    Power to Weight 3.81
    Weight Distribution 48/52

    GT Auto
    No Oil Change
    No Body Rigidity
    Wheels: Stock: GT Aa03
    Paint Body: Matte Pink
    Paint Wheels: Envy (Pontiac Vibe)

    Parts
    Fully Customizable Suspension
    Fully Customizable Transmission
    Fully Customizable LSD
    Twin-Plate Clutch Kit
    Engine Tuning Stage 2
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Sports Catalytic
    Intake Tuning
    Mid-Range Turbo
    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Carbon Hood
    Window Weight Reduction
    Sports Hard

    Suspension
    Ride Height 95/95
    Spring Rate 6.00/10.00
    Dampeners Comp 3/5
    Dampeners Ext 4/4
    Anti-Roll Bars 3/3
    Camber Angle 2.0/1.0
    Toe Angle +0.10/+0.30
    Brake Balance 4/6

    Transmission
    Initial Final 4.200
    Max Speed 137
    First Gear 3.300
    Second Gear 2.250
    Third Gear 1.725
    Fourth Gear 1.375
    Fifth Gear 1.110
    Sixth Gear 0.925
    Final Fear 4.200

    LSD 5/8/10

    Power Limiter 96%
    Ballast Weight 38
    Ballast Position +50

    Notes: Better power when shifting around 7k RPM.
     
  13. DolHaus

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    FITT Roadster Class
    Lotus Elise Type 72 '01
    Project: Colin

    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 195 BHP @ 6400 Rpm / 24.1 kgfm @ 5400 Rpm
    Weight: 850 kg
    Performance Points: 450 PP
    Wheels: Standard Size
    Fitted parts:
    Tires:
    SH
    Weight Distribution: 41:59

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 90 Rear: 105
    Spring Rate: Front: 5.10 kg Rear: 9.00 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 6 Rear: 8
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 6 Rear: 8
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 5 Rear: 5
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.10° Rear: 0.20°

    Brakes: F: 3 R: 6


    Drivetrain: (5-Speed Transmission)



    Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque: R= 15
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 15
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 15

    Clutch & Flywheel:
    Standard
    Propeller Shaft: Standard


    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Semi-Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Isometric
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: High-RPM
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F: 0 R: 0
    Weight Reduction: Standard
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows: Standard
    Ballast: 94 kg
    Ballast position: 4%


    Notes: Best time for me at Brands Hatch Indy was a 0:50.671 but realistically I'd say the car will run 0:51.2xx's all day long.
    The car responds best to smooth steering inputs and positive application of the throttle, if you start trying to throw it around then it will fight back. If you are experiencing understeer then you might be entering the corner too fast, try braking a little earlier next lap or a less aggressive entry and you will see an improvement in handling characteristics.
    It gets a little bit floaty over the bumps on the exit of the final corner and the rear might start to slip a little bit, remain calm, stay flat on the throttle and make a gentle correction with the steering and she'll regain grip with minimal fuss. You can run out onto the outside curb on turns 1 and 3, as long as you don't make any sudden movements the car should remain stable. Be careful of the inside curb on turn 4, the car will go flat out through here but if you clip that big curb then its going to spin.
    Try to have fun with it, it might seem a bit daunting at first but it will reward you for being smooth and letting the car do the work
    :tup:
     
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  14. shaunm80

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    That looks like a rather aggressive hair dressers car. Excellent choice of colour for that car. :)
     
  15. DolHaus

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    Hair dressing services for when time is of the essence!
     
  16. DaBomm4

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    And then the rims say, "I'm not that outspoken." I was going to paint the rims Viper Yellow, but it was too shiny for the Matt Pink.
     
  17. shaunm80

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    FITT Pro Touring GT

    Aston Martin DB9 '06

    Link here

    This is a tune which I think will be driven better by others than by myself. I can keep it on the track but I think it has better times in it than what I have been getting.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Bowtie-muscle

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    Whoa! That looks AWESOME in that color :tup:

    Aston definitely has the looks out of the 2, but the Jag is not bad. Looking forward to taking it for a ride.:D
     
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  19. Bowtie-muscle

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    Looking good gentlemen:tup::tup:
     
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  20. shaunm80

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    My backup didn't look too shabby either. I think you'd appreciate the colour of it. It was a hard choice of which to plump for in the end. Both cars were very good around Silverstone. The image below is my unused entry, looks quite mean I think :)

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  23. shaunm80

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    FITT Street Sports Car

    TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00


    Link here

    My final FITT entry for this competition. Not the fastest horse out of the stable but one which can get good times in the right hands. Good luck with it testers :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. shaunm80

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    @Bowtie-muscle Or @DolHaus

    Could you just check over my tunes, make sure I've not missed anything or put a part on in error that is banned from each of my classes? I think they are within regulations but just need a double check. Many thanks :)
     
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  25. DolHaus

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    Looks fine to me, all parts and methods meet regulations as far as I can tell :tup:
     
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  26. DolHaus

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    @Bowtie-muscle - Quick testing question :dunce:

    Imagine the scenario:
    Running wide or spinning on the last corner complex
    Incurring "Next Lap Invalidated" penalty (no advantage gained in recovering from previous spin)
    Set best lap on next Red lap (clean lap, no corner cutting that would result in new penalty)


    Can we count that new best lap?
     
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  27. Ridox2JZGTE

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    Courtenay Sport / NITRON Vauxhall VX/R220 Track Racer Replica

    Special Build Courtenay Sport/NITRON VX/R220
    450PP Version
    Sports Hard


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    CAR : Vauxhall VX220 '00
    Tire : Sports Hard


    Specs
    Horsepower: 215 HP at 6500 RPM
    Torque : 196.9 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
    Power Limiter at : 99.7%
    Weight: 875 kg
    Ballast : 85 kg
    Ballast Position : 9
    Weight Distribution : 45 / 55 as real car spec
    Performance Points: 450


    GT AUTO
    NO Oil change
    Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
    Wheels : Stock
    Car Paint : Sunlight Silver Metallic



    Tuning Parts Installed :
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Intake Tuning
    High RPM Range Turbo Kit
    Adjustable LSD
    Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
    Fully Customizable Suspension
    Weight Reduction Stage 1

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    Suspension - NITRON Race 3 Way Coilover Kit
    ERS Springs 500/550 ( Lowered )
    Vauxhall Street/Track Alignment

    Front, Rear

    Ride Height: 89 89
    Spring Rate 8.93 9.82
    Dampers (Compression): 6 4
    Dampers (Extension): 9 9
    ARB 5 5
    Camber Angle 0.1 1.6 ( Front Camber Range : 0.1 +- 0.2, Rear Camber Range : 1.8 +- 0.2 )
    Toe Angle 0.07 0.20 ( Front Toe In Range : 0.00 +- 0.07, Rear Toe In Range : 0.36 +- 0.20 )


    DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo Getrag F23 (287) 5 Speed
    Stock Final

    Set Default
    Set Final to 3.630
    Set Auto Max Speed at 290kmh / 180mph
    Adjust each gear :
    1st 3.580
    2nd 2.020
    3rd 1.350
    4th 0.970
    5th 0.790
    Set Final : 3.630
    ( OPTIONAL Courtenay Sport 4.170 Final for Getrag F23 )

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    LSD - 2 Way OS Giken Custom Built 25% Preload & Lock
    Initial Torque : 17
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 17
    Braking Sensitivity: 17


    Brake Balance:
    5/5 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 5/5, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 5/5.

    Recommended setting for DS3 user :

    Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/5 brake balance as starting point.

    Notes :

    This replica is based on a Courtenay Sport customer car, originally VX220 NA car modified with Z20LET engine transplant and Z20LEH K04 Turbo from Astra VXR offering better performance and reliability. The 450PP is limited in power to fit in the regulation FITT British Invasion Tuning Challenge.

    The weight of the car is 875kg ( curb weight of NA VX220 ) with 45/55 weight distribution of NA car. Suspension has been upgraded with NITRON NTR Race Coilover 3 Way with ERS Springs at 500/550. The stiff springs and ratio are chosen based on well proven formula for track racer VX220 with sticky semi slick tires. The front springs are harder than usual this time, offering sharper steering with damper & ARB all around setup for balanced handling. Ride height has been lowered by about 2 inch from stock height, while the alignment is based on street / mild track duty range of values, and I used less rear toe in to give more play when at the track.

    Transmission uses Turbo VX220 Getrag 5 Speed ratios and final. This offers much better spread for the added power and torque, giving nice pull without inherent wheelspin drama. Courtenay Sport also offer performance/track oriented Final Drive at 4.170, giving much quicker acceleration from 1st to 3rd gear at a cost of lower top speed.

    LSD is based on OS Giken with custom job, torque preload set at 25% with 2 way setup, also 25% lock. This will give nice balance against suspension setup, while still giving good traction even on lower gear exit. Simply hammer the throttle when in doubt and let the rear kick a bit then the LSD will do it's job, just make sure to hold that steering wheel like a man.

    The VX220 was tuned and tested at Brands Hatch Indy, Willow Springs, Tsukuba, Autumn Ring and Red Bull Ring. At Brands Hatch Indy, it managed 52.1s with ease on SH tire. Another run managed 51.8s on 2nd lap, with slower 20.1s 1st sector and slightly lower last turn at 58mph as I overloaded left front tires for a moment. I have provided both replay of the run for reference. A good run would yield 19s 1st sector - reaching 100mph at the top of the hill before braking for the right hairpin :) and maintain 60+mph on the last corner, this would translate at least mid 51s :p


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    EDIT : Fixed the max speed, incorrect value, was 300kmh, supposed to be 290kmh
    Added additional notes for the 51s run and uploaded the replay :)
     

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  28. Bowtie-muscle

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    Nice, I approve:cool:
    Looks intimidatingly fast, must be because I know it's yours.:scared:
    Chameleon Paint.:tup: Well done on getting all of your tunes in berfore the first deadline. :crazy:
    Perhaps this is wrong but, I did that while testing the GT's in the last challenge. Hit the outside was, barely with @xande1959 's, if anything it may have slowed the following lap which was the best even though it red lapped. Made sure it was clean, and then counted it. It would be very easy here to get "next lap invalidated", but I would say, if the tester IS SURE the following lap was clean, if it was the fastest it can count.

    Anyone else have an Issue with that?
    Two VX220s to go head to head;)
     
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  29. DolHaus

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    Sounds fair to me, the run between the line and the first corner is really short so its hard to carry any unintentional advantage that might be gained on the run up :tup:

    I just foresee having to do a bunch of extra laps to compensate for the 2 lap penalty :lol:
     
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  30. Bowtie-muscle

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    I believe it would be fair as long as the rest of the lap was clean, a 10 lap run could quickly become 15-20 otherwise.
     
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