FM4 leaked footage trailer!! (not april fools)

[Pakt Sardine]

I am truly excited for this. I don't have a 360 anymore, so I'm seriously considering (well, it's pretty much 100%) buying a brand new one when FM4 comes out. Hopefully they'll have an Xbox 360/FM4 bundle (I'm sure they will) when it comes out. I'll snag that without thinking twice.

I loved FM3 because it had great looking cars, great selection of cars (even my favorite Cobra Daytona Coupe), good tracks, great multiplayer, an open yet not tedious career, and most importantly... I can play it well with the game pad (most racers... Not a chance. Well, sort of with F1 2010 as long as I'm not tired). So, I'm really excited to see what's all in store with this game.

 

[uMadson?]

There's only one thing I'm hoping for FM4: FM2 penalties. Or even an improved version of it.

 

[nizmo_bro]

I can't wait for the new Forza. I need a reason to use my 360 again

I just hope they improve on the physics a bit more mainly. Previous ones made the cars feel a bit loose. I would need traction control on if it was anything over 400 or so HP otherwise it was undrivable, but driftable

The big reason I don't even want to play my FM3 is because I tend to get sucked into spending hours on editing liveries. haha. I can't stand it now since I got a free trial of Gold, and downloaded a ton of graphics for my cars... and now it loads SOOOO SLOOOOW.

 

[ChadSpeed]

I can't wait for the new Forza. I need a reason to use my 360 again

I just hope they improve on the physics a bit more mainly. Previous ones made the cars feel a bit loose. I would need traction control on if it was anything over 400 or so HP otherwise it was undrivable, but driftable

The big reason I don't even want to play my FM3 is because I tend to get sucked into spending hours on editing liveries. haha. I can't stand it now since I got a free trial of Gold, and downloaded a ton of graphics for my cars... and now it loads SOOOO SLOOOOW.

I hope they can improve on that loading time. I can drive a 600+hp Viper, RWD with no TC and no issues thanks to the great trigger and linear response of the throttle in FM, unlike GTs that is completely unlinear.

 

[UkHardcore23]

Looks like it might only be coming on 1 disc as the new DVD discs coming to 360 can store 10.8gb on them!

http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/04/11/new-xbox-360-format-disc-can-carry-up-to-10gb-of-data/

Means F3 would of only came on one if these discs had been around.

 

[Scaff]

This is a FM4 thread, not a GT vs FM thread.

I'm not particularity happy at having to delete 33 posts, a good number of which concerned FM3 Vs GT5,

Keep the thread on-topic and cut out the flame-bait or warnings and infractions will follow.


Scaff

 

[LaBounti]

***Opinion***
With that, XBL will be the thing that hurts FM4 for me "again".

 

[Ryou]

Looks pretty good actually.

 

[UkHardcore23]

***Opinion***
With that, XBL will be the thing that hurts FM4 for me "again".

Xbox Live is what makes Racing games on the 360!

 

[Terronium-12]

Looks like it might only be coming on 1 disc as the new DVD discs coming to 360 can store 10.8gb on them!

http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/04/11/new-xbox-360-format-disc-can-carry-up-to-10gb-of-data/

Means F3 would of only came on one if these discs had been around.

I love a couple of the comments suggesting DVD is practically obsolete, yet they go on to suggest Blu-ray which is a DVD.

 

[infamousDee]

I love a couple of the comments suggesting DVD is practically obsolete, yet they go on to suggest Blu-ray which is a DVD.

You know what they mean. The DVD format that the 360 uses is obsolete, no matter what anyone says to defend its limited storage capacity in today's HD world. It'll be interesting to see how this affects the development of FM4, seeing as they're planning on including features such as weather, not to mention those shiny, new showroom models nearly to the standard of GT5.

 

[Terronium-12]

You know what they mean. The DVD format that the 360 uses is obsolete, no matter what anyone says to defend its limited storage capacity in today's HD world. It'll be interesting to see how this affects the development of FM4, seeing as they're planning on including features such as weather, not to mention those shiny, new showroom models nearly to the standard of GT5.

You're right, I do know what they mean. Except for something to actually be obsolete would mean it isn't being used in any capacity whatsoever. DVD's don't fall into that category and won't for a few more years now. I'm also looking forward to seeing how this affects anything, and how/if they're going to cram more content into the game.

 

[Spagetti69]

Weather? When was that confirmed?

 

[Bogie 19th]

Xbox Live is what makes Racing games on the 360!

I couldn't agree more.

 

[t.o.]

You know what they mean. The DVD format that the 360 uses is obsolete, no matter what anyone says to defend its limited storage capacity in today's HD world. It'll be interesting to see how this affects the development of FM4, seeing as they're planning on including features such as weather, not to mention those shiny, new showroom models nearly to the standard of GT5.

It's not obsolete, it may be on it's last legs, nobody is doubting that, but to say "obsolete" is a joke. I'm not 100 percent certain but I'd bet my PS3 that DVD sales STILL outsell bluray disks by a LARGE margin. People don't understand that there are plenty of people who have HD sets and my even have BR players because the Jones's do but STILL don't have a clue to what they are doing with it and are out buying regular DVDs. Don't forget there still is a price difference and as long as that's the case DVDs will still garner sales.

As far as gaming goes , yes the 360's DVD system is on it's last legs. But not like 6 months of last legs but probably another good 2-3 years or so. Producers probably like where everything is sitting right now. Can't fit in on the disk? Oh well, sell it as DLC later. Developers don't have to try to fill a BR disk full of content. Less work for them. And since most multiplat games are developed on the 360 first and ported to PS3 then they figure who cares how much blank space is left on the disk. PS3 users are just happy to get games with parity as it is.

FM4 should do fine on the one disk and if necessary we see Turn 10 is no stranger to including a second disk. It's not a big deal to me at all. I first installed the 2 disk FM3 and haven't touched the second disk since. Not once after initial install so I see no problem here if FM4 needs to go the same route.

 

[Scaff]

I love a couple of the comments suggesting DVD is practically obsolete, yet they go on to suggest Blu-ray which is a DVD.

Off topic, but a Blu-ray is not a DVD any more than a CD is.

All three may well be disc based optical storage mediums and use lasers, but that doesn't mean they are the same at all.

The mastering process is totally different for a start as is the manner in which the discs are read. Also Toshiba would have a fit to hear BR descibed as a DVD (particularly after HD-DVD).

(Oh and this still doesn't make DVD obsolete)


Scaff

 

[Terronium-12]

Off topic, but a Blu-ray is not a DVD any more than a CD is.

All three may well be disc based optical storage mediums and use lasers, but that doesn't mean they are the same at all.

The mastering process is totally different for a start as is the manner in which the discs are read. Also Toshiba would have a fit to hear BR descibed as a DVD (particularly after HD-DVD).

(Oh and this still doesn't make DVD obsolete)


Scaff

Toshiba should be fittin' at Microsoft. HD-DVD would be still be here with more than a fighting chance if the 360 actually supported it as their main format and not as an add-on for movies.

 

[Scaff]

Toshiba should be fittin' at Microsoft. HD-DVD would be still be here with more than a fighting chance if the 360 actually supported it as their main format and not as an add-on for movies.

Ah but then the 360 would have launched at least six months later than it did (late 2005 vs mid 2006 for HD-DVD) and been significantly more expensive (early HD-DVD players started at $500).

A combination of which would have certainly seen the 360 struggle, no MS made entirely the right choice as far as format went to gain market share and to be fair its only been in the last 12 months that its started to case issues.

All this coming from someone who still owns a HD-DVD player and to be honest the right format won in my opinion (but that's another thread entirely).


Scaff

 

[Terronium-12]

Ah but then the 360 would have launched at least six months later than it did (late 2005 vs mid 2006 for HD-DVD) and been significantly more expensive (early HD-DVD players started at $500).

A combination of which would have certainly seen the 360 struggle, no MS made entirely the right choice as far as format went to gain market share and to be fair its only been in the last 12 months that its started to case issues.

All this coming from someone who still owns a HD-DVD player and to be honest the right format won in my opinion (but that's another thread entirely).


Scaff

True, but would it really have been as worse off as the PS3 or would it still have been making a fairly similar stride as it is now? Now I don't think it would have gotten off to as good of a launch as it did in '05, but it still (possibly) would have released before the PS3 and would have (possibly) had an even stronger line-up of games. Maybe Halo 3 would have been a launch title...we'll never know. I also still have mine and the seven (?) movies I picked up while having it, but it seemed like as soon as I picked it up Blu-ray killed it off.

I'd post something on topic but there isn't anything worth posting. Not that I can find..

 

[GTRL_Junior]

I think the problem here is too much compressed files and i think thats what brings down the graphics sometime. Now having uncompressed file wow i can see what they will bring to the table. Look at rage as a good example, its got an amazig engine of umcompressed files and the developers can go crazy!

 

[t.o.]

All this coming from someone who still owns a HD-DVD player and to be honest the right format won in my opinion (but that's another thread entirely).


Scaff

OFF TOPIC: One good thing came from it, HD-DVD's at the end were going DIRT CHEAP and there were some good titles out when BR was just starting to print up stuff people would be half way interested in buying. My add-on player is still going strong and I got quite a few HD-DVDs on the shelf.

Which FM4 could utilitze the drive. Would be a beautiful thing.

 

[FyreandIce]

***Opinion***
With that, XBL will be the thing that hurts FM4 for me "again".

Agreed, especially if they try to force it on everyone like they did with FM3.

 

[t.o.]

Agreed, especially if they try to force it on everyone like they did with FM3.

I for one am glad they are so-called "forcing" it as people claim. When you have some money invested in your username it keeps the lid on people:

1) Racing like idiots online. Of course some still will but it WILL make some thing twice
2) From trying to cheat people out of credits in the marketplace
3) Keep idiots from creating stupid liveries with Hitler , Swastikas, Racial B.S. and B.S. in general. I don't mind the naked female liveries , lol, but all that other garbage has to go.

One thing I give Turn 10 a WHOLE lot of props on is the fact they do scrutinize the marketplace RIGOROUSLY. And they will drop the ban hammer swift and hard on a dummy, although it does have some people concerned when they make liveries.

Example: One guy made a great livery that I really liked but he was concerned about it getting him banned. I told him I'd "buy" it off him and use it. It was an EXACT replication of a real life livery and should have no problem being recognized as such. That was when the game first came out and I haven't had any problems with it yet being banned.

 

[-=DV=-]

I for one am glad they are so-called "forcing" it as people claim. When you have some money invested in your username it keeps the lid on people:

1) Racing like idiots online. Of course some still will but it WILL make some thing twice
2) From trying to cheat people out of credits in the marketplace
3) Keep idiots from creating stupid liveries with Hitler , Swastikas, Racial B.S. and B.S. in general. I don't mind the naked female liveries , lol, but all that other garbage has to go.

One thing I give Turn 10 a WHOLE lot of props on is the fact they do scrutinize the marketplace RIGOROUSLY. And they will drop the ban hammer swift and hard on a dummy, although it does have some people concerned when they make liveries.

This man speaks truth!

 

[FyreandIce]

I for one am glad they are so-called "forcing" it as people claim. When you have some money invested in your username it keeps the lid on people:

I haven't had a single race online where people weren't crashing and cutting corners. In FM2, you would know the good lobby hosts who would boot these people strait away. In FM3 (and 4 if they follow the same stupid setup) proper racers are such a minority that you get booted for racing properly.

 

[Bogie 19th]

I haven't had a single race online where people weren't crashing and cutting corners.

Then you haven't played online, or not enough. I rarely EVER see that happen.

 

[McLaren]

I haven't had a single race online where people weren't crashing and cutting corners. In FM2, you would know the good lobby hosts who would boot these people strait away. In FM3 (and 4 if they follow the same stupid setup) proper racers are such a minority that you get booted for racing properly.

Because these same morons don't infest Gran Turismo 5 or any other online racing game, right?

Your online experience!=everyone's.

 

[FyreandIce]

Then you haven't played online, or not enough. I rarely EVER see that happen.

I've played a good deal of online. It's rather a shame that in a game with barely 1,000 people online at any time you're forced to use matchmaking which more often then not puts you in your own game and when you finally get a game in the class you want, it's full of corner cutting crashers.

Because these same morons don't infest Gran Turismo 5 or any other online racing game, right?

Your online experience!=everyone's.

Did I ever say the problem is exclusive to Forza? No.

 

[McLaren]

Did I ever say the problem is exclusive to Forza? No.

Then why talk as if it's Forza issue....

 

[sandboxgod]

You know what they mean. The DVD format that the 360 uses is obsolete, no matter what anyone says to defend its limited storage capacity in today's HD world. It'll be interesting to see how this affects the development of FM4, seeing as they're planning on including features such as weather, not to mention those shiny, new showroom models nearly to the standard of GT5.

DVD is far from obsolete; it actually has some advantages over blu-ray for console gaming. For instance, a hard drive is pretty much mandatory for a ps3 due to much slower seek times. Notice, most ps3 games have madatory installs to navigate around the slow blu-ray seek times. I'm getting ready to laydown but I'm sure you can score some good game developer blogs about blu-ray seek times.

Granted, I love my blu-ray player (my PS3). Going forward I do hope DVD gets fazed out from consoles but look forward to seeing more mandatory game installs unless they figure out how to eliminate the slower seeks