Football vs Football

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Brainhulk, Jun 15, 2010.

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American Football vs Football

  1. American Football is better

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  2. Football is better

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  1. PeterJB

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    Association Football is better I think. American Football just seems like Rugby thats had a few more rules put in and been made more dangerous by having the players wear those enormous pads and helmets.
     
  2. Max Powers

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    Maybe you should check his location before you assume he's from the US...he's from Canada!

    Cool stereotypes though, bro.
     
  3. Famine

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    Oh, something else I forgot that makes hockey awesome.

    I went along to my wife's 7-a-side hockey game on Tuesday evening. I even photographed a lot of it. Shirts, skirts and jogging women, people. And at no point was I taken away by the police.
     
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  4. Horde_R35

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    I didnt make them, you guys did;)!
     
  5. Danoff

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  6. Smallhorses

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    Touche! :drool:
    Wonder why she's allowed to bare her midriff, but has to wear flesh coloured tights? Either that or she's got some really saggy skin behind her knees.
     
  7. Famine

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    I'd love to see her try that on the ice...
     
  8. Joel

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    <------ Location: Canada


    Nice job making a generalization. Because I like American football, that automatically means I'm a fat, war-mongering, american, republican who only eats McDonalds, correct?


    Also, "Football is better than baseball, hockey, american football put together, and that's a fact"


    I'd really like you to explain the bolded part. Please.
     
  9. Northstar

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    He's not a guy, he's a 12 year old kid. It's best you don't know who he is.


    I don't recall anyone saying that it wasn't the most popular. But as has been said, popular doesn't equal better, the ipod is the most popular mp3 player, yet far from the best.

    What's wrong with patriotism?

    That is the whole point of the World Cup and the Olympics, is it not?

    Nope, that's an opinion you are passing as fact, which I believe is against the AUP.

     
  10. Horde_R35

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    Should i care who he is?!
    Exaggerated patriotism thinking everything and only what comes from the US is the best there is... mostly when talking about cars/women/ sports and similars issues! I work in a 5 star hotel in Lisbon for a few years now and ive meet thousands of English, Italians, French, Spanish, Greeks, Japanese, Chinese, The Germans, you name it, and ive never seen souch a countrymen like yourselfs, thinking that the US is the center of the world! That kind of "Egocentric Patriotism" (i pass the name) is, in my opinion, nonsense.

    Dont get me wrong i love the US :)! But surely not that aspect:tdown:.

    So you really believe 2.63 bliions of people that watched the 2006 Football World Cup are wrong, but 350 millions are wright huh? See what i mean?!



    Isnt that what most Americans really are?! Fat?!

    To be especific:

    72,3% (men) and 64,1% (women)
     
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  11. Northstar

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    There are people like that from every country.

    Where the :censored: did I say that?

    Also, it's "right" not "wright".

    it's all opinion, there is no such thing as the "better" sport.
     
  12. Horde_R35

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    A higher percentage in the US of A, considering my years of experience "dealing" with foreign people!

    Im Human!

    This is pretty much what i think about this subject:guilty::


    https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128110&page=13#post3883521
     
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  13. Joel

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    You still haven't shown me where liking American Football means I fit into that stereotype. Liking a particular sport does not inherently make you fat, American, Republican, war mongering, or any other adjective (besides "football fan").

    Also, is it relevant to this conversation that whatever percent of Americans are overweight? Not really.

    Cool story, bro.
     
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  14. rsh

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    I never understoord why the Americans call it American Football when seldom a foot is used... :confused:

    Anyhow, I tried to watch American Rugby a few times but the game is so slow, it take hours and it is going back and forth without being simple to watch or entertaining enough to let me watch or being entertained.
    Also on television it is quite boring with all the adds all the time to me.

    Football however is my sport. I played it when I was younger against nice times like AFC Ajax, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona, PSV Eindhoven etc.
    2x 45 minutes non-stop, technical teamsport. Nice to see a nice pass, good defending, nice touch of the ball and female supporters :sly:

    Both games need some good athletes, so a discussion about one game being for girls and the other for fat people is nonsense in my book.

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  15. BudNC6721

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    I like both versions of football. I played American in high school and I started watching "soccer" in college. So I really appreciate them both.

    Off topic for a sec, Max you say your from the home of the Pirates and your a Maple Leaf fan? I'm not to far from the burgh and I know I started playing hockey because of Lemieux. I just find it curious that your either not a Pens fan, or just like the Leafs better.
     
  16. Jump_Ace

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    Ouch 8:37 well I guess when you have a poll on a worldwide forum and compare the sport of one country's favorite (that's right it sure as :censored: ain't baseball!) versus one of, if not The most infamous sport around the world, that is gonna happen.

    Jerome
     
  17. Joel

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    I don't dislike Soccer as a sport, but I find it really tough to watch sometimes. I was watching the World Cup final and all the diving and acting in the first half disgusted me. Needless to say, I didn't watch the second half.
     
  18. Owen.C93

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    Hand egg?
     
  19. Joel

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  20. Northstar

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    When American Football was first conceived there was much more emphasis on kicking the ball, the sport had been around some 30-40 years before the forward pass even came into play.


    Side Note: I recently learned that the term "Soccer" is British in orgin. So yeah, blame them for us using that name.
     
  21. GoldenCrumpet

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    I'm going to have to say I prefer football/soccer more, just mainly down to the play being continuous. On the other hand, I do like American football. I've been watching the Superbowl for the past 3 years and quite enjoyed it. I don't mind the stop, start, stop, start bit. It's just how long those breaks are from play to play that annoy me.

    Still both greats sports in their own matter. However, Rugby is my main sport, seeing as I play it :sly:
     
  22. Max Powers

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    Yeah, I was born and raised in Pittsburgh (Now I'm about 30min north of the city), but I've been a Maple Leafs fan for as long as I can remember. I attribute this to my obsession with goalies as a kid, both playing goalie and watching highlight tapes of great saves, and I became a huge Felix Potvin fan, the rookie goalie for the Leafs back in the early 90's, from then on I was always a Leafs fan. I love and support all other Pittsburgh teams, but have never really gotten behind the Pens, I honestly don't really care for them either way. I did like Lemieux a lot too back in the day, though. Who didn't?
     
  23. Joel

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    To mix things up here, how about a CFL vs NFL discussion? Don't argue from a player talent perspective, because obviously the NFL flat out destroys the CFL in that, but what about the game as a whole? Personally, I think NFL players + CFL rules + CFL field + NFL's 4 downs = best football league ever.

    EDIT: Also, take out the CFL single point rule, and take out the rule that says the defense has to stay a yard behind the line of scrimmage.


    Bigger field, more players (12 a side, usually extra WR and DB), 20 second play clock (biggie for me), no fair catch rule, I love the CFL. Take out the rules I said should be removed earlier, and give them 4 downs and that would be just about the perfect rule set IMO. (and move the field goal uprights from the goal line (CFL) to where they are in the NFL)
     
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  24. astrosdude91

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    Here in Texas, we have football that also involves a 12th man:

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    I think I recall a CFL franchise in San Antonio a few years ago that failed miserably. Other than that, I don't know anything about the CFL.

    I do know that I don't like the NFL, seeing as how alot of the players seem to get in alot of trouble off the field.
     
  25. Northstar

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    i wonder how many teams use the "Home of the 12th man" line?

    I'm kind of in the same boat, I do like it but I prefer the college level more as the players need to prove themselves as they aren't getting payed a million dollars a year. Now only if they would finally introduce a playoff system.

    Sort of back on topic, I have found a solution to this problem.
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    Simply combine the two sports, will surely increase the entertainment value in both sports and will also reduce the number of football players that fake injuries.
     
  26. Earth

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    Its just that most people dont understand that the kickers, the guys who kick the ball through the goal for field goals or extra points score the most points every season on American Football teams

    The all time leading scorer in NFL history is a kicker

    Check this out, everyone on this list, the entire top 25 are kickers whose only job is to kick the football through the goal posts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_scoring_leaders

    So when most of the points scored in an American football game are by way of using your foot to kick a ball between goal posts is calling it football really that wrong?

    I hear this alot and laugh every time.

    Soccer is loaded with advertisements, all over the players' uniforms, the field, e verywhere. You may have to watch a 2 minute commercial every 15 minutes in American football but your watching a commercial all the time in soccer.

    It's like racing, the whole thing is one big commercial with advertisements everywhere. Why are there commercials in Formula 1 when its a non stop sport where at any second somehng big could happen? No reason to bash the networks for cuttig out some commercial time during a 3 hour football game when they can't even do it for a 90 minute F1 race.

    Aren't soccer players and areas on and around the field littered with advertisements? Outside of special bowl games at the college level you will be hard pressed to find a sponsor anywhere on an American football field. Again outside of special post season bowl games at the college level there is NEVER any advertisments on players uniforms.

    To the people who complain about the stops in action and commercials: You can't have everything. If American football didn't have the stoppage of play it would lose alot of what makes it so great. What if chess players had to constantly make moves without stopping? Without stoppage after each play american football wouldn't be as precise as it is, it would be just like rugby, mass motion and chaotic. There would be no wayto keep track of most stats, it would be harder to keep track of progress. So much wouldn't work if it was constant motion. As for the commercials, yes they can get annoying but is it reasonable to expect every sport not to have commercials? Many sports have commerials.

    If American Football is so great why hasn't the rest of the World Caught On?

    Easy. American Football is really complex and hard to learn like cricket. If you didn't grow up with it learning the rules it's really tough to do as an adult. With soccer you can just jump in and start watching and the only rule you really need to know is only hte goalie can touch the ball with his hands. Most 3rd world countries cannot afford the equipment and field needed to play American football but a soccer net and ball and a plain field is inexpensive. Also most of the world is addicted to constant motion games with no stopping so without growing up with American football and seeing the game for what it truly is they find it very hard to get into because of the constant stopping.

    I think what American Football really needs is for it to become an olympic sport. This way people from around the world can see how the game is played properly by the very best. It would be very similiar to what the Dream Team did for worldwide basketball in 1992. Once the world saw professional basketball players and how awesome of a game they made basketball look like the game's popularity exploded worldwide.

    I'll let three videos speak for me as why I prefer American Football and think its easily the best sport in the world. Besides, what sport in the world can you kick, throw forward passes, toss, and carry the ball? What sport in the world has 3 massively different ways of scoring, running the ball into the endzone, throwing it in to a receiver to catch in the endzone, or kicking it through goal posts?

    Why America Chose American Football



    POWER



    SPEED

     
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  27. LeftyWright69

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    Football for America is like the game of war, you use brute force, diversion, surprise, brains, accuracy, and split second execution. Soccer is like keep away basket ball for people without arms. lol&#8230;..
     
  28. rsh

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    We had the Amsterdam Admirals in the Netherlands.
    Beside 10.000 people and live footage on tv where about 100.000 people watched, it was on the radio all the time. The internet and also some tv shows but it never took off.

    Yes, we grow up with football as the sport we pick up easily.
    When a little boy sees a ball he will kick the ball 9 out of 10 times.

    The complicated rules along with standing still quite a few times is indeed not very fun to watch from my point of view when it comes to American handb, ehhh Football. I tried to watch and pick up the game but I never saw the fun in it.
    Same as baseball. A game that can take up to 3 of 4 hours is dreadfull to me. Altough in the Netherlands we are quite good in baseball.

    American Football an Olympic sport? It won't do more to the sport then it will do now.
    Basketball is for instance a nice, fast game with spectacular actions and you can see the faces of the players/athletes. Same goes for Rugby.
    Whilst Rugby is popular in some European countries (in the Netherlands it is growing as a sport) I believe that American Football won't get that status in Europe.
     
  29. GT_Prologue5

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    I learned that the term "soccer" was actually from the British, who constantly bombard our sport of "football". Truthfuuly, there should be a neither button, because while, yes, as an American and only at the age of 14, I've never hugely cared for soccer, but the FIFA World Cup changed it for me. Watching the whole Japan vs. Paraguay match was like a lesson in Futbol, and now I'm more interested in that than our "football". Unfortunately, as I am the one living in the world's most pathetic superpower of a country, the sport networks are all over NFL Training Camps instead of Futbol. It seems that once the World Cup ended, we all turned back to our evil "football" ways. And just because I swear my true allegiance to another country (that would be France), I am a terrorist! I have been told by people, just because I hate this country, I am an "infidel" and that "I was probably the real guy to put that car bomb in Times Square." I know that a special place inside of me is a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, but there is one reason why I CANNOT watch "football". And that is the death of my father, earlier this year.

    Noe do you underground eh I haye tais country so mich?
    French for "Now do you understand why I hate this country so much?"
     
  30. GT_Prologue5

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    Am I allowed to be a bit of a smart ass here and say Canadian Football?
    If not, sorry.
    And sorry for the double post. Still having trouble with this thing!