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Is that 1:49 on comfort hard ? did you change the oil ? on comfort medium, it might hover around 1:45 on a conservative clean driving - not like bat out of hell
I don't have GT6, so you'll have to help me out. What does it say?
Besides, it's a known fact that all the 276hp JDM cars of that era produced more. Significantly more in some cases. But as far as I know the US/Euro models didn't have the gentleman's agreement going on, so why is ~320hp wrong for that?
Is that 1:49 on comfort hard ? did you change the oil ? on comfort medium, it might hover around 1:45 on a conservative clean driving - not like bat out of hell
Maybe your friend should drive a eco box then. Cause stock supra is tame as a puppy, you got to rid the cats free up breathing and up the boost for it to get a little scary. **** tires could be to blame, or he just cant drive fast.
Wild beast on cheaper tire maybe Fit something decent like Advan Neova AD08R or Potenza RE11, it would have better traction and grip so much better in corners.
I don't believe that is the case either, my twin charged Ibiza Cupra will spin the wheels in 2nd, what @MKVSupra is saying is that a twin turbo supra with ~300bhp won't be anything other than a joyus grip fest if you fit the right tyres, which simply isn't true.
You do have to take into account how wide the rear tires are on the Supra he's referring to If he fitted 275 rear tire with something like I posted above, the Supra would stick very well on the road. How wide is the front tires of a Cupra ?
I know that R33 GTS25T with 280PS at the wheel and 265/40 18 inch rear Trampio summer tires would spin in 1st if launched hard, and spin a little on 2nd as well after that. With powerful FR cars, it really depends on the driver too, drop the clutch any higher than 4500rpm, I am pretty sure the Supra RZ would light up the rear unless on drag semi slick like Nitto ?
Even if he couldn't drive a car to save his life how would that affect how easily the car breaks traction?!
Maybe your Supra isn't boosting right or loosing power somewhere because everyone I know with a TT Supra says they are quite a wild beast in stock form
I don't believe that is the case either, my twin charged Ibiza Cupra will spin the wheels in 2nd, what @MKVSupra is saying is that a twin turbo supra with ~300bhp won't be anything other than a joyus grip fest if you fit the right tyres, which simply isn't true.
You do have to take into account how wide the rear tires are on the Supra he's referring to If he fitted 275 rear tire with something like I posted above, the Supra would stick very well on the road. How wide is the front tires of a Cupra ?
I know that R33 GTS25T with 280PS at the wheel and 265/40 18 inch rear Trampio summer tires would spin in 1st if launched hard, and spin a little on 2nd as well after that. With powerful FR cars, it really depends on the driver too, drop the clutch any higher than 4500rpm, I am pretty sure the Supra RZ would light up the rear unless on drag semi slick like Nitto ?
I'm talking about stock tyres though, Im not entirely certain what width the Supra tyres are stock but I don't think they are more than 235, the tyres on my Cupra are 215.
Lets set things straight, I'm talking stock cars with tyres that came on the car from factory, no upgrades
You're clutching at straws, I'm not going to waste my energy arguing with you.
Did your friend tell you that you know the one you know which one.
Its no arguing when you got nothing of merit to add but somebody else's opinion.
Do me a favour, launch your supra in GT6 on a flat road full revs and launch, no steering input, do the same thing in your supra in real life and then post pictures of your accident
I just bought Supra RZ, no oil change, 325HP, 392.6 ft lb, fitted comfort medium, bone stock, ran it at Laguna Seca - test drive from garage, drive cleanly and managed low 1:47s. The tires grip quite well on straight from 2nd gear last corner exit, the cornering also pretty good, low 27 sec 1st sector. The Supra drives like heaven compared to GT5, I can feel the tires grip under braking even with the stick, no slippery ice feeling. I do not use any assist with 9/3 brake balance. Someone with a wheel surely will pull 1:45 easily with comfort medium, as for me, I can see another half a second with less mistakes ( 1:46s )
What surprises me most, is how the tires putting down power, I can sense traction
do us all a favor, go drive a real sports car with proper tires and post about your experience.
or go ask your friend about his, so you can post what he said.
What a coincidence, I will be driving an R8 V10 at Silverstone this year
Your move.
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And for the record, I've driven lots of sports cars on proper tyres
I suggest you try his example & you'll clearly see which one is inferior. GT5 & now 6 still have an outdated tire model that allows you to full throttle from a stand still, spinning the wheels in a straight line without so much as ever having to touch the steering. For someone that says he has a car like a TT Supra, you should know full well that would never work in real life; the car's rear would kick to the side as the tires look for grip, not shoot forward with no steering input.Cool, it sure explains why you are to inept to see F5 inferior physics.
do us all a favor, go drive a real sports car with proper tires and post about your experience.
So just played forza 5 at a friends place, and after playing GT6, I found FM5 to be un-drivable.....Now I know alot of you are going to be upset by my comments but hey imo physics in GT6 are by far and away the best on any console currently for driving feel > best on anything would be iracing or assetto corsa.
imho GT6 has better handling characteristic's overall, if you use "comfort" series tyres which are the equivalent of your street cars wheels you will see what I mean, I do still believe the racing tyres on GT are waaaaay too grippy as are sports medium and above.
I used to love the forza series, and even ranked quite highly on most leaderboards for grip and was formally No1 in the world on every drift leaderboard on FM3, so I'm not making the above statement lightly. Forza's graphics for the tracks are exceptional, the cars are all really well modeled however the physics for the cars make it feel like your driving a boat....... yes yes your car launches awesomely, something good for your drag nuts, however the cornering is abysmal and under braking the cars are just awful.
I can assure you guys that there is torque steer in GT6 for rear-wheel drive cars (not FWDs). When launching the One-77 on the Goodwood track for example, the back end will swing around.
I did it myself, even swapped the tyre type to see if there was any change but:
It has no torque steer.
I wonder what would had happened if he would have been right? since most people don't even bothered to play both games.
It doesn't apply, there is even torque steer on cars while idle in test tracks and flat surfaces (TG test track has to be flat due to it's airfield nature), so it's no a valid point, it has to steer even on even and flat surfaces.