Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[GBalao888]

Now with the game gone gold, I hope they would reveal the finalized car list, besides the list of songs featured in the game.

With that out of the way, my worst fears of Black pink featuring in the soundtrack have been debunked.

Now where's the rest of the Stellantis brands (Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Lancia, etc.) and some other cars from other brands that we might have missed?

 

[TokoTurismo]

Playground are talking about the music right now on Let’s Go.

They started out with an all-Mexican station but scrapped it after realizing that real Mexican radio stations mix in Mexican music with U.S./international music. They changed course to add to the authenticity.

I was disappointed at first but after their explanation I think this was the right move.

I'm glad PG decided to go that route rather the former. Goes to show just how hard they're trying to keep the authenticity in the game. Most developers would be like "Oh it's Mexico so therefore all Mexican music only". Nah, I much prefer this way to be honest, especially after their explanation.

 

[breyzipp]

Now with the game gone gold, I hope they would reveal the finalized car list, besides the list of songs featured in the game.

With that out of the way, my worst fears of Black pink featuring in the soundtrack have been debunked.

Now where's the rest of the Stellantis brands (Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Lancia, etc.) and some other cars from other brands that we might have missed?

I wonder what version of the game they are playing now, this one had 538 cars in the files. On my spreadsheet I now have 528 cars (everything revealed + preview build) so that’s 10 cars missing. It’s not the welcome pack cars, not the 18 FE cars, not the season 1 cars since those are all already counted for. Either they are holding back some cars or else whatever build they are playing has a few other cars in it that we shouldn’t know about yet (probably season 2 cars and the first car pass cars).

 

[GBalao888]

I wonder what version of the game they are playing now, this one had 538 cars in the files. On my spreadsheet I now have 528 cars (everything revealed + preview build) so that’s 10 cars missing. It’s not the welcome pack cars, not the 18 FE cars, not the season 1 cars. Either they are holding back some new cars or else it’s just more FE cars.

According to Mike Brown, he says that the folks there at Playground were playing the final version of the game.

 

[Silver Arrows]

With that out of the way, my worst fears of Black pink featuring in the soundtrack have been debunked.

Give that crusade a rest, goddamn.

 

[willbsn13]

I wonder what version of the game they are playing now, this one had 538 cars in the files. On my spreadsheet I now have 528 cars (everything revealed + preview build) so that’s 10 cars missing. It’s not the welcome pack cars, not the 18 FE cars, not the season 1 cars since those are all already counted for. Either they are holding back some cars or else whatever build they are playing has a few other cars in it that we shouldn’t know about yet (probably season 2 cars and the first car pass cars).

By my count we are at 530, but I'm assuming we'll be getting the official car list very very soon if the game has gone gold.

It does not look promising for Alfa, Lancia & Fiat, though I would have thought PG would have made a statement by now if they were missing.

 

[YoungRhombus]

It does not look promising for Alfa, Lancia & Fiat, though I would have thought PG would have made a statement by now if they were missing.

Like I said, imagine having Mike Brown saying the Stratos is his favorite in terms of engine sound just for it to be missing from the game. That would not look good for PG

 

[warp9engage]

Have to say, I was little bit disappointed by this stream, considering it's the last Let's Go.

They talked a lot about the soundtrack, which is irrelevant to me since I play with all music off.

They showed only a snippet of EventLab. I was expecting more, as that just looked like what you could already do with Blueprint, in previous Horizon games. They didn't go into the "Rules of Play", which I would have liked to have a look at. I would really want to drive a track, without drivatars, and would like to know if that's possible. Oh well.

And then, we had the showcase. After having to try and win a race against 11 (IIRC) monster trucks, while in a tiny motorcycle, in Motorstorm Pacific Rift, that was... underwhelming.

No new cars revealed, technically. Sure, it may the first time we see the Valhalla and the Evija, in a Let's Go episode, but those cars are hardly news to most of us. Hope there's more.

 

[Justuxful]

Holy duck, this soundtrack! Dua Lipa, BMTH, Bomba Estereo, Lil Nas X, Whethan - I love it!

Best soundtrack in a Horizon game ever, cannot wait to bop to it in less than 3 weeks time

 

[Stang616]

I pre-ordered the ultimate add-ons last night and pre-installed the game and content, now it's time to wait....tick tock tick tock.

 

[YoungRhombus]

Of significant note regarding the soundtrack is the absence of CHVRCHES, who have been in every game since the 2nd installment. Too bad they're missing from this one.

 

[UKMikey]

Holy duck, this soundtrack! Dua Lipa, BMTH, Bomba Estereo, Lil Nas X, Whethan - I love it!

Best soundtrack in a Horizon game ever, cannot wait to bop to it in less than 3 weeks time

If there's no Blackpink or BTS I'm straight up considering boycotting the game. That'll show them.

 

[Justuxful]

If there's no Blackpink or BTS I'm straight up considering boycotting the game. That'll show them.

If Horizon does ever go to Japan, I fully expect Blackpink and/or BTS to be part of the soundtrack, since they’re the biggest groups in the world and K-POP is obviously huge in Asia.

But I really don’t understand why a certain someone was so worked up about a BP song possibly being in FH5 cause even I as a huge Blink knew that wouldn’t happen


I wonder if he knows that Dua Lipa and Blackpink actually have a song together, I’m sure he’d absolutely love to hear that

 

[ELmarcotuff]

Did they show the rock station?

 

[warp9engage]

Did they show the rock station?

You mean Horizon XS? If so, then yes.

EDIT: Here it is.

 

[MagpieRacer]

You mean Horizon XS? If so, then yes.

EDIT: Here it is.
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Nice, not a bad line up, do like a bit of the Foo Fighters, Killers, BMTH, Royal Blood and Nothing But Thieves.

I'll still probably turn the radio off anyway but, nice lineup.

 

[UKMikey]

So I watched GameRiot's map tour and one of my guesses was right.

Spoiler

Radio Eterna indeed has Sobre Las Olas. I'm stoked. It's a beautiful composition.

Now I finally know what this track is the mention of it reminds me of Drowning In Berlin by The Mobiles.

 

[Populuxe]

I know some have been posted already, but here are all six stations in one place.

Spoiler

While I’m glad Hospital Records is back, I’m surprised London Elektricity is being replaced by Degs. The chemistry and banter between Chris Goss and London Elektricity was a huge part of the reason behind why it’s been my favorite station since FH2. Still, I’m sure I’ll enjoy it. It sounds like Chris Goss is going to be instructing Degs on how Horizon festivals work, and that sounds like it could be fun.

I’m also a little disappointed we’re losing Don Thompson as host of Timeless. His performance as the slightly bewildered by Horizon yet always trying to maintain his dignity host has been the highlight of the Horizon radio stations from the last two games. But with the change to Eterna, it makes sense to bring in a new Spanish-speaking host. I look forward to hearing her.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I have to say, I’m actually more interested in the Festival Playlist now that it’ll be there day one and I won’t already have most of the prizes that it offers.

In fact, I won’t be going out of my way to collect every car in the game this time. The only cars I’ll purchase are my absolute favorites and specific cars needed to do an objective, like the Weekly Challenges. It will be interesting to see how my collection will grow by just mostly obtaining cars through rewards.

 

[breyzipp]

According to Mike Brown, he says that the folks there at Playground were playing the final version of the game.

Yeah indeed, I didn’t get to the end of the stream before I posted that.

So 538 different cars in total in the game (including WP and FE cars). I assume the season 1 reward cars and 4 weeks of VIP cars will be in there as well as season 1 starts less than a week after early release date. And I’m sure in those first few days they want to focus on tackling bugs rather than adding seasonal content.

538 cars on the gone gold edition. 528 cars on my spreadsheet + 4 Car Pass cars (it was stated long time ago we would get 1 car per week from the pass) that leaves only 6 cars we don’t about yet. That sure isn’t enough to include all of Fiat/Abath, Lancia and Alfa Romeo. Maybe 1 or 2 of those brands are included but I doubt it. My guess is we are just missing another 6 FE cars.


All things together I found this Let’s Go episode quite underwhelming. I’m a big music fan and play FH with music on, but I don’t care much about the song reveals, I’ll hear it in the game. I would have MUCH rather seen some EventLab creations or multiplayer games, some info on the VIP cars and the reveal of the first weeks of the car pass. Also some word on the missing car brands.

 

[warp9engage]

Yeah indeed, I didn’t get to the end of the stream before I posted that.

So 538 different cars in total in the game (including WP and FE cars). I assume the season 1 reward cars and 4 weeks of VIP cars will be in there as well as season 1 starts less than a week after early release date. And I’m sure in those first few days they want to focus on tackling bugs rather than adding seasonal content.

538 cars on the gone gold edition.

It should be noted that going gold, in the modern age, post the advent of digital distribution, doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Going gold was referred to the game being finished (ready for sale), in order to be sent out for printing. Nowadays, with digital distribution, and rapid game update deployment, what went gold and what you actually end up downloading on launch day, may be quite different, and may include everything from simple bug fixes to extra content that needed more polishing. Day 1 patch anyone? Games today are in a constant state of evolution and FH5 will be certainly the same.

 

[breyzipp]

It should be noted that going gold, in the modern age, post the advent of digital distribution, doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Going gold was referred to the game being finished (ready for sale), in order to be sent out for printing. Nowadays, with digital distribution, and rapid game update deployment, what went gold and what you actually end up downloading on launch day, may be quite different, and may include everything from simple bug fixes to extra content that needed more polishing. Day 1 patch anyone? Games today are in a constant state of evolution and FH5 will be certainly the same.

Yes I know that but I strongly doubt they will add in extra cars on the day 1 patch. That is usually bug fixes and polishing, certainly not adding new content last minute. And certainly not how PlayGround games did day 1 patches in the past.

I bet 538 cars is what you will have in the game until the season 2 update drops.

 

[NightAvenger]

Bring Me The Horizon is probably going to be censored beyond recognition

You mean Horizon XS? If so, then yes.

EDIT: Here it is.
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[warp9engage]

Yes I know that but I strongly doubt they will add in extra cars on the day 1 patch. That is usually bug fixes and polishing, certainly not adding new content last minute. And certainly not how PlayGround games did day 1 patches in the past.

I bet 538 cars is what you will have in the game until the season 2 update drops.

There's one more thing, I just remembered, that's also important to note. That may be the final build, but it's still an internal one under their control. If there's something they want to keep as a surprise for later, they can open the dev-tools and lock it away. Say you're livestreaming and a random drivatar passes by, in a car you were keeping as a surprise. Well, surprise ruined. So it's best to temporarily remove that car from the selection to avoid that issue. Doesn't mean it's not there and ready.

That's some food for thought.

 

[willbsn13]

There's one more thing, I just remembered, that's also important to note. That may be the final build, but it's still an internal one under their control. If there's something they want to keep as a surprise for later, they can open the dev-tools and lock it away. Say you're livestreaming and a random drivatar passes by, in a car you were keeping as a surprise. Well, surprise ruined. So it's best to temporarily remove that car from the selection to avoid that issue. Doesn't mean it's not there and ready.

That's some food for thought.

That is true. And definitely possible. But I'd rather not set myself up for disappointment tbh.

From all accounts, it looks like between 538-543 will be the launch number of vehicles, with either

• Fiat/Lancia/Alfa/Abarth
• Forza Editions
• The Day One Formula Drift Car Pack (which is part of the Car Pass and is coincidentally 8 vehicles large)

Making up the roster to 538 or 543. All of the New to Forza cars have been revealed. Anything else is a bonus at this point.

 

[EngieDiesel]

In fact, I won’t be going out of my way to collect every car in the game this time. The only cars I’ll purchase are my absolute favorites and specific cars needed to do an objective, like the Weekly Challenges. It will be interesting to see how my collection will grow by just mostly obtaining cars through rewards.

I'm taking a similar approach, mostly to try and get more invested in the cars I do have. Hopefully avoiding the downtime of building bunches of one-off gimmick cars to chase the checklists will keep me from getting burned out this time around.

 

[Justuxful]

Bring Me The Horizon is probably going to be censored beyond recognition

Supposedly the BMTH song in the game is Teardrops, if it’s the official clean version then it should be fine.

But if they’re gonna go to the extreme like with FH4 music censoring, then we might have a bit of a problem…

 

[warp9engage]

That is true. And definitely possible. But I'd rather not set myself up for disappointment tbh.

From all accounts, it looks like between 538-543 will be the launch number of vehicles, with either

• Fiat/Lancia/Alfa/Abarth
• Forza Editions
• The Day One Formula Drift Car Pack (which is part of the Car Pass and is coincidentally 8 vehicles large)

Making up the roster to 538 or 543. All of the New to Forza cars have been revealed. Anything else is a bonus at this point.

Fair enough.

They still say, on their website, that the list isn't final, and that new cars will continue to be unveiled until launch. We'll see.

Considering they've had a longer development cycle for this game and that they're reusing a lot of models (the Silvia being the prominent example discussed), I would still expect to see a car count increase similar to what we've seen in previous games. The launch car count rose by 150 from FH2 to FH3, by another 100 from FH3 to FH4, and considering it's already risen by 88 from FH4 to FH5, I could see it on track to hitting 550-555 total.

Though, I've probably just jinxed it now, by being optimistic. 😄

 

[willbsn13]

I'm also very very surprised that not one of the Let's Go streams spent one single second on Events Lab.

This feature could really be a game changer for Horizon's longevity in general; being able to create not only custom race tracks (with props and AI) but custom game modes that can be played against friends with changing rulesets.

Mike himself even said

"We're very excited – a little bit nervous because you can create basically anything with it,

And yet we haven't seen any of it action. The mode could have easily had one whole 50 minute livestream dedicated to it....but nothing.

The game has gone gold yet one of it's most promising features is MIA from footage.

Now I hope PG have a plan to show it before release (maybe a VIDOC?) but it seems unlikely.

What is more likely is that the mode might be delayed until Series 2 or 3 of FH5.

Which is a little concerning. We'll have to wait and see though.

 

[notsofast]

I watched the first and maybe second Let’s Go streams but then after that I’d just watch someone like AR12’s videos to get the short summarised version because the Lets Go streams whilst informative also had a bit of waffle in them IMHO.