Game of Thrones - Caution: contains spoilers & dragonsTV

[mustafur]

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Ever since he left the wall all his sellswords started to desert him(keep in mind most of his army where sellswords, by the time he was to attack the boltons he had barely anyone to attack with.

It makes complete sense.

 

[Crispy]

Spoiler

Ever since he left the wall all his sellswords started to desert him(keep in mind most of his army where sellswords, by the time he was to attack the boltons he had barely anyone to attack with.

It makes complete sense.

Spoiler

You also can catch the Boltons talking about how few horses they had, and Stannis being told his sellswords took the horses with them when they left. When the battle comes guess who had a lot of horses? It's believed the sellswords allied with the Boltons to guarantee safe passage out of the North after the fight.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I think this season was weaker than the others, but that isn't really saying much because the other seasons were absolutely fantastic. I think ultimately a lot of this season isn't going to matter fully until next season. Judging by the leaked casting calls, next season will be huge.

I agree. Last season seemed a bit weak compared to the rest for sure. I am sure next season will make up for it. Hopefully.

Since they are making prequels of everything these days, how long would you guess until the GOT prequel? They talk about the Mad King all the time in this series so it is inevitable they will make some sort of prequel involving him. My guess.

 

[Pupik]

I agree. Last season seemed a bit weak compared to the rest for sure. I am sure next season will make up for it. Hopefully.

Since they are making prequels of everything these days, how long would you guess until the GOT prequel? They talk about the Mad King all the time in this series so it is inevitable they will make some sort of prequel involving him. My guess.

There's a bunch of novels focusing on the House Targaryen, that my much I've seen. Perhaps once the final season ends, we'll know.

I finished the Song of Fire and Ice books about six months ago, just finished watching the five current seasons to go with it.

Not thrilled with the last season's divergence from the Dance With Dragons, but in some ways it leaves the sixth TV season a way to recoup lost and missing sections of the novel(s) into an entire season onto itself (with a lot of nail-biting drama removed, though). Tie that into loose ends created from characters that didn't actually die the books and other subplots left out, and you could create another ten episodes while George R.R. finishes up Winds of Winter.

Or, nine hours of Septon Meribel.

 

[Dotini]

I've been watching the Last Kingdom series on BBC TV, the recent episode 5 being in many ways as thrilling as anything on GOT. Though, lacking the dragons and nudity, it has the credibility of being based on the historical novels The Saxon Stories, by Bernard Cornwell. I'm currently looking into reading at least one of these.

 

[Danoff]

If you've seen season 5 of GoT, please read.

I need a little help.

I'm current with GoT up through season 4. My wife wants to watch season 5 when it comes out on DVD in march. I need to decide whether or not to watch it. Here's my problem:

(these spoilers go through season 4)

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I like GoT quite a bit, it's a great story. Every once in a while, it does permanently scar me though. I will never, ever, forget Oberon's death. It will forever permanently haunt me until I myself die. I can close my eyes and picture that violent end as though I just saw it. These kinds of scenes of intense violence tend to bother me for decades... I'm serious when I say decades. I'll be tortured by some of the scenes in GoT forever, and I'm not particularly happy about that. It's like spicy food, it tastes good but it hurts. In the case of Oberon, I'm not sure it was worth it.

One subject that really bothers me is rape. I do not like graphic rape scenes, they tend to put me in a terrible mood, often for days. I made the mistake of watching Eye for an Eye when it came out (Keefer Sutherland plays a rapist), and even now, 20 years later, I can close my eyes and be disturbed by it. Seriously, I'm thinking about it right now and it bothers me.

Now, to-date GoT has had a few rape scenes. Targarian and Cersei for example. Neither of those scenes are particularly disturbing. In general, the show seems to shy away from graphic rape scenes, often instead focusing on rape avoided - such as Targarian stopping Drago's army men, and so forth. Even when rape is going on, it's usually alluded to or talked about rather than shown. Which is not really an issue.

I have been told that season 5 gets pretty rapey.

I need to know whether to watch season 5. Let me put it as concretely as I can... I do not want to watch Arya get raped. I have no interest in watching any particularly violent or graphic rape scene, but don't tell me to avoid season 5 just because of a scene like Daenerys or Cersie.

Thanks for your help.

Cc: @Omnis

 

[Pupik]

If you've seen season 5 of GoT, please read.

I need a little help.

I'm current with GoT up through season 4. My wife wants to watch season 5 when it comes out on DVD in march. I need to decide whether or not to watch it.

It's a disturbing season, but...rape doesn't really feature much in this season. Except for Episode 6, though.

Unless I purged it from my memory, I can't recall reading scenes from A Dance with Dragons delving much into that territory. After all, they're divergent versions.

Deaths in bunches, minds messed with, and loose ends left everywhere...

 

[mustafur]

Tbh episode 8 will probably ruin you.

 

[Infinital-NG]

Tbh episode 8 will probably ruin you.

Read what happened in episode 8, as I didn't see anything that what Pupik is not wanting to see.

Episode 6, yeah he should probably skip past a scene.

 

[Danoff]

Except for Episode 6, though.

Episode 6, yeah he should probably skip past a scene.

Great... this is definitely significantly beyond the somewhat tame examples I gave earlier?

 

[Pupik]

Great... this is definitely significantly beyond the somewhat tame examples I gave earlier?

Without giving away too much, it's on the level of rape; but overall, less gruesome things than a Martell getting his head bent and broken.

Forgot to mention that episode 9 made me a bit upset (what occurs wasn't in the book, which is a bit of a comforting thing, in a bizzare way).

Not a series for the faint of heart, in any case.

 

[Spacegoat]

Forgot to mention that episode 9 made me a bit upset

Yeah, I found that an extremely tough scene to watch, even reading the spoilers for that episode before hand didn't make it any easier.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

If you've seen season 5 of GoT, please read.

I need a little help.

I'm current with GoT up through season 4. My wife wants to watch season 5 when it comes out on DVD in march. I need to decide whether or not to watch it. Here's my problem:

(these spoilers go through season 4)

Spoiler

I like GoT quite a bit, it's a great story. Every once in a while, it does permanently scar me though. I will never, ever, forget Oberon's death. It will forever permanently haunt me until I myself die. I can close my eyes and picture that violent end as though I just saw it. These kinds of scenes of intense violence tend to bother me for decades... I'm serious when I say decades. I'll be tortured by some of the scenes in GoT forever, and I'm not particularly happy about that. It's like spicy food, it tastes good but it hurts. In the case of Oberon, I'm not sure it was worth it.

One subject that really bothers me is rape. I do not like graphic rape scenes, they tend to put me in a terrible mood, often for days. I made the mistake of watching Eye for an Eye when it came out (Keefer Sutherland plays a rapist), and even now, 20 years later, I can close my eyes and be disturbed by it. Seriously, I'm thinking about it right now and it bothers me.

Now, to-date GoT has had a few rape scenes. Targarian and Cersei for example. Neither of those scenes are particularly disturbing. In general, the show seems to shy away from graphic rape scenes, often instead focusing on rape avoided - such as Targarian stopping Drago's army men, and so forth. Even when rape is going on, it's usually alluded to or talked about rather than shown. Which is not really an issue.

I have been told that season 5 gets pretty rapey.

I need to know whether to watch season 5. Let me put it as concretely as I can... I do not want to watch Arya get raped. I have no interest in watching any particularly violent or graphic rape scene, but don't tell me to avoid season 5 just because of a scene like Daenerys or Cersie.

Thanks for your help.

Cc: @Omnis

Not sure if you received your answer yet but yes, that scene is quite disturbing and understandably controversial worldwide. Made me almost want to quit watching GOT. So if you do decide to watch it, brace yourself. It was one of my most hated episodes and scenes of the series and almost made me quit watching. I HATE those kind of scenes. Just stomach wrenching honestly. That scene really was not necessary at all for GOTY.

Also on a side note if you don't ever want to see those types of scenes, never watch Spartacus. Some of those are absolutely brutal on that show.

 

[Danoff]

Not sure if you received your answer yet but yes, that scene is quite disturbing and understandably controversial worldwide. Made me almost want to quit watching GOT. So if you do decide to watch it, brace yourself. It was one of my most hated episodes and scenes of the series and almost made me quit watching. I HATE those kind of scenes. Just stomach wrenching honestly. That scene really was not necessary at all for GOTY.

Also on a side note if you don't ever want to see those types of scenes, never watch Spartacus. Some of those are absolutely brutal on that show.

Are you talking about episode 6 or 9? Just want to know where the issues are.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Are you talking about episode 6 or 9? Just want to know where the issues are.

The very last couple minutes of Season 5 Episode 6. If you watch up to the very last few minutes when you know the part is about to happen, just end the episode there. Do not watch any further. It happens the very last few minutes.

Season 5 Episode 9 has a scene that is sexually disturbing and it is continues in episode 10. The results in 10 are a bit gory.

EDit: corrected a few things from episode 9 to 10.

 

[Danoff]

The very last couple minutes of Season 5 Episode 6. If you watch up to the very last few minutes when you know the part is about to happen, just end the episode there. Do not watch any further. It happens the very last few minutes.

Season 5 Episode 9 is also bit disturbing and it is continued in episode 10. The results in 10 are very gory.

EDit: corrected a few things from episode 9 to 10.

Thanks, I think I'm going to go through season 5 and just try to avoid those scenes... I don't mind knowing what happens, just don't want to watch it in some cases. I'll get my wife to fill me in on the details.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks, I think I'm going to go through season 5 and just try to avoid those scenes... I don't mind knowing what happens, just don't want to watch it in some cases. I'll get my wife to fill me in on the details.

I would recommend reading about them in advance, that way you know exactly when to skip while watching. You really don't want to see the last few minutes of Episode 6 for sure.

 

[rono_thomas]

Spoiler: GOT Trailer

And the full song, which for me is better than the original.

 

[Dotini]

The new season starts Sunday.

HBO and the producers have done an extraordinary job of suppressing any spoilers on the fate of Jon Snow, other than insisting on the obvious.

Shall we tune in and watch for any surprises?

 

[Jawehawk]

Let's see if they can redeem themselves after the boring mess that Season 5 was. I am ready.

 

[Dotini]

Apparently this will be the last full season. They are racing towards the end now.

 

[jeffgoddin]

I'm glad they made it, and I love the cast, but they must have known that new books wouldn't arrive in time for the series to reach a good conclusion before the cast members all aged out of their roles... And I really don't want to see HBO taking creative license with the story to force a made-for-TV ending. We may/probably will never see the final books from Martin, knowing this I might have suggested just a two o three season initial series, with a follow-up maybe 10 years down the road if the rest of the books do ever arrive.

I'd like to see a series based on Dennis McKiernan's books, but perhaps there's not enough boobs and killing in them to justify that... but I found them to be as engrossing as either RR.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

They consult with Martin for the end they didn't create anything themself it's all according to Martin plan.

 

[Dotini]

Game of Thrones now seen as science fiction!

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/news/a44092/game-of-thrones-wall-theory-preston-jacobs/

 

[Jawehawk]

Not impressed by the first episode...

 

[Dotini]

Not impressed by the first episode...

Not enough tits and dragons? Not enough sword fights and dead bodies? Not enough book plot points touched upon? Didn't like Ramin Djwadi's score? What is the nature of your complaint(s)?

 

[eran0004]

Not impressed by the first episode...

A lot of it seemed to be about picking up the plot from last season to remind everyone about where all the main characters were when we left them, so in a way this episode was like an extension of last season. Now that that's over with, I think we'll see a lot more development in the future episodes.

 

[88GTA]

Not enough tits and dragons?

Some could argue that there was too much of the first, especially at the end.

 

[Jawehawk]

The problem is that this episode actually seemed like the ending to season 5, rather than the beginning of season 6. That's what happens when you leave a season with nothing but stupid cliff hangers.

Spoiler

Everything that happened in Dorne was laughable and poorly executed. Brienne's rescue of Sansa and Theon felt forced and entirely too lucky. Arya's storyline continues to bore me, and nothing interesting was done in Mereen or King's Landing in this episode.

 

[Dotini]

Some could argue that there was too much of the first, especially at the end.

It was hinted earlier in the show and in the books that the Red Woman was perhaps hundreds of years old.

Spoiler

What can you imagine would be the point - at this crucial time - of her doffing the glamor or magic that concealed her true form?