Game of Thrones - Caution: contains spoilers & dragonsTV 

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CAMAROBOY69
Not sure if you received your answer yet but yes, that scene is quite disturbing and understandably controversial worldwide. Made me almost want to quit watching GOT. So if you do decide to watch it, brace yourself. It was one of my most hated episodes and scenes of the series and almost made me quit watching. I HATE those kind of scenes. Just stomach wrenching honestly. :( That scene really was not necessary at all for GOTY.

Also on a side note if you don't ever want to see those types of scenes, never watch Spartacus. Some of those are absolutely brutal on that show.
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Have you been wrapped in cotton wool ?
 
Dotini
It was hinted earlier in the show and in the books that the Red Woman was perhaps hundreds of years old.
What can you imagine would be the point - at this crucial time - of her doffing the glamor or magic that concealed her true form?
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My first guess would be around the time the Targaryens' dragons started their decline into becoming the dragon equivalent of the latter days of the Spanish Hapsburg dynasty.
 
Dotini
It was hinted earlier in the show and in the books that the Red Woman was perhaps hundreds of years old.
What can you imagine would be the point - at this crucial time - of her doffing the glamor or magic that concealed her true form?
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Her character, up to this point, has been quite two dimensional. She's been cool-headed and one step ahead of everyone so far - but we don't know how or why she's become this strong and driven. I think this season will push her faith and give us a little more back story. Everyone, everyone who makes it past a handful of episodes', back story always gets explained at some point in GoT.
 
TheCracker
Her character, up to this point, has been quite two dimensional. She's been cool-headed and one step ahead of everyone so far - but we don't know how or why she's become this strong and driven. I think this season will push her faith and give us a little more back story. Everyone, everyone who makes it past a handful of episodes', back story always gets explained at some point in GoT.
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I agree. Back story is incredibly important in GoT. That's why I've been reading extensively in World of Ice and Fire, the GoT prequels, plus Martin's early works of horror, fantasy and Sci-Fi going back to the 70's - for clues to the present mysteries and questions.

The season premiere was very short at something like 47 minutes. It left the fate of Jon Snow almost completely unanswered. I have the feeling the shocking revelations about the red priestess from the shadowlands of Asshai has something to do with it.

Some of the things I want more explanation about is the role of magic, prophecy and technologies left over from advanced but apocalyptically destroyed civilizations like Valyria. I have my doubts and suspicions!
 
As someone who's incredibly obsessed with world-building, I'd love to see Melisandre's story fill in some details about the Shadowlands.

Also, this thread really needs a spoiler warning in its title.
 
DK
As someone who's incredibly obsessed with world-building, I'd love to see Melisandre's story fill in some details about the Shadowlands.

Also, this thread really needs a spoiler warning in its title.
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Or we can assume that people are intelligent enough to understand that a thread entitled Game of Thrones will have spoilers about past seasons?
 
TheCracker
Her character, up to this point, has been quite two dimensional. She's been cool-headed and one step ahead of everyone so far - but we don't know how or why she's become this strong and driven. I think this season will push her faith and give us a little more back story. Everyone, everyone who makes it past a handful of episodes', back story always gets explained at some point in GoT.
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Sorry, but only advanced and up-to-speed fans need go any farther.

I've stumbled across a strong theory to explain Melisandre and her strange morphing into a hag in S6E1, and also to predict what happens next to Jon Snow.

It start here at these two links:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ead-a-spoilerific-recap-for-the-a6999191.html



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This all tallies with my research into Martin's Sci-Fi from the 70's and 80's. My take is that the red woman is a quasi-immortal shapeshifter and will reanimate Jon Snow by sacrificing her own longevity. "Only death can pay for life", it is said several times thoughout the books. I further predict that Jon Snow will lose that name and take on another, perhaps Jon Stark or some other.

We will know next week!

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TheCracker
I suppose it was one of those episodes where plenty happened, but nothing was of any real surprise.
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Want a surprise? How surprising would it be if the whitewalkers turned out to be the good guys?
 
TheCracker
Ummmm. Don't recall much good within Joffrey's personality.
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Yet he might have been the ideal king!

Balram Yadav
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  1. He is a decent shot with crossbow, at least from short-distances.
  2. He is decisive, and doesn't shirk from making tough decisions.
  3. He is not afraid to shed blood to remove obstacles from his path.
  4. He is tall & handsome. This is an important quality for anyone interested in a political position.
  5. He has an impeccable official royal bloodline.
  6. He has strong will and desire to lead his kingdom.
  7. He does not succumb to emotions or feelings. He is not a darling of proles, but it does not matter as their opinions are irrelevant in a monarchy .
  8. He stands up to powerful man and woman: his grandfather, mother, uncle.
  9. He understands the value of sacrifice to build alliances that strengthen his position. e.g. wedding proposal to Margarey.
  10. He understand value of life. Well, at least his life, as he extricates himself to save his live when defeat is certain.
  11. He is open to opposing viewpoints, as long as they come from beautiful queens. e.g. taking clues from Margarey to make public appearances.
 
DQuaN
Seeing as Jon Snow in some ways is one now!
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Bran is aligning with the Children of the Forest and the tree gods. The whitewalkers are sentient beings with emotions and aesthetic sensitivities - that has been established both in the books and in the shows. I suspect they are aligned somehow with the Children of the Forest in a long term effort to roll back the territorial conquests of the First Men, Andals, et al. I also think the entire world, Planetos, is in a post-apocalyptic status resulting not only from the Doom of Valyria, but the disaster which threw the seasons out of whack. I suspect the whitewalkers are trying to do something about this.

There are aspects of magic - fantasy - but also of science fiction and the struggle against magic. I suspect some of this will play out at the end.
 
Dotini
Yet he might have been the ideal king!

Balram Yadav
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  1. He is a decent shot with crossbow, at least from short-distances.
  2. He is decisive, and doesn't shirk from making tough decisions.
  3. He is not afraid to shed blood to remove obstacles from his path.
  4. He is tall & handsome. This is an important quality for anyone interested in a political position.
  5. He has an impeccable official royal bloodline.
  6. He has strong will and desire to lead his kingdom.
  7. He does not succumb to emotions or feelings. He is not a darling of proles, but it does not matter as their opinions are irrelevant in a monarchy .
  8. He stands up to powerful man and woman: his grandfather, mother, uncle.
  9. He understands the value of sacrifice to build alliances that strengthen his position. e.g. wedding proposal to Margarey.
  10. He understand value of life. Well, at least his life, as he extricates himself to save his live when defeat is certain.
  11. He is open to opposing viewpoints, as long as they come from beautiful queens. e.g. taking clues from Margarey to make public appearances.
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He also was worried about the potential threat of the dragons while Tywin was like, "Bitch don't worry about it, they're like two feet long tops lol."
 
I would argue he has too much emotion and interest in petty desires to have any effectiveness as a king.
 
mustafur
Tbh episode [6] will probably ruin you.
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Infinital-NG
Episode 6, yeah he should probably skip past a scene.
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Pupik
Without giving away too much, it's on the level of rape; but overall, less gruesome things than a Martell getting his head bent and broken.
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CAMAROBOY69
Not sure if you received your answer yet but yes, that scene is quite disturbing and understandably controversial worldwide. Made me almost want to quit watching GOT. So if you do decide to watch it, brace yourself. It was one of my most hated episodes and scenes of the series and almost made me quit watching. I HATE those kind of scenes. Just stomach wrenching honestly. :( That scene really was not necessary at all for GOTY.
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CAMAROBOY69
The very last couple minutes of Season 5 Episode 6. If you watch up to the very last few minutes when you know the part is about to happen, just end the episode there. Do not watch any further. It happens the very last few minutes.
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CAMAROBOY69
I would recommend reading about them in advance, that way you know exactly when to skip while watching. You really don't want to see the last few minutes of Episode 6 for sure.
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Ok... so the wife watched the end of Episode 6 without me and reported that it was significantly tamer than most of the other scenes I was referring to. It's time to go into spoilers tags for a more detailed discussion, but the gist of it is that I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

Little Finger was obviously grooming Sansa to be a prostitute (as is consistent with his character). He presents her with a clear decision before going back to winterfell, and she makes her decision. Even after arriving she knows what she's doing the entire time, she's even offered help if she lights a beacon and chooses not to. She is literally selling her body in exchange for achieving a goal that she wants. It is the culmination of Little Finger turning her into a prostitute. Her character has two items of value in the show - looks and a noble name. She's learning from the masters at how to manipulate, but it's something she's not able to rely on yet.

So in that context, I actually don't even consider that rape. It's a price she willingly paid. She's not happy about having to pay a price, but she's willing to pay it for the chance to get what she wants.

By that token, Daenerys' marriage was far more of a rape. In fact, this very season has a scene with Ramsey and one of his girls (the one Sansa accuses of being in love with him) which, retroactively, is far more disturbing. When you're watching the scene with the two of them the first time you think not much of it. He says "you wouldn't bore me would you?" and she responds by biting his lip and enticing him. Later in the season we find out that he has the girls that "bore" him eaten alive by dogs. He's basically saying have sex with me now or I'll have you eaten by dogs. That's far more of a rape scene than Sansa's, though you have to piece it together after the fact.

Thanks for the heads up in this case, but it wasn't really necessary on that one. I appreciate the warnings though. I'll try to suss out what happens in episode 9 before diving in.
 
Good episode all round. That ending though. Have to admit I had quite a few tears in my eyes, powerful stuff.
 
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I have to say knowing what we know about Bran i wonder how much of an important character he will be in the future of what happens next, Bran is easily the most powerful single character on the show and has the ability to shape the world we know.
 
Best episode so far in season 6 👍 they have certainly kicked it up a few gears and that ending was great :cool:
 

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