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I believe it was at the Tower of the Undying when Dany received the prophecy that "the Dragon has three heads". Readers interpret this as meaning there will be three dragon riders. We know Dany is one, but who will be the other two? Tyrion seems to get on well with one of the other dragons, but is he a warrior or an advisor/diplomat?
 
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I took it to be the three targaryens ;)
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There is a fan-theory that Tyrion is Targaryen, in that King Aerys was said to have taken Tywin Lannister's wife to bed with with or without her consent. But I don't buy this. George RR Martin as been quoted as saying dragons don't necessarily need Targaryen riders. In the "Dance of the Dragons", a major dynastic succession war fought about 175 years prior to Robert's rebellion, there were still quite a few dragons, and some were ridden by non-Targaryens. That war caused the demise of most of the dragons, and the remainder died or disappeared shortly thereafter. It seems to me that Westeros is so weakly defended that dragons, or no more than one, will be needed to easily conquer what's left of the realm. Perhaps the dragons will prove their worth at the Battle for the Dawn, versus the whitewalkers and their army of the undead. Jon would be mighty glad to have one then.
 
Dotini
The irony is that he isn't Ned's son at all, but Lyanna's son by Rhaegar Targaryen. If he were legitimized, he would have a strong claim to the Iron Throne!
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My dad thinks otherwise. He thinks that Jon is Robert's son by his first wife, Lyanna, whereas Cersei was his second wife. Ned had to take Jon as his bastard to protect him from Cersei's wrath, and securing a path of succession for her incestuous children. There is no real legitimization needed.

This is why Bran is going to be a valuable target in Season seven. All he has to say to Jon is, "your not my brother, your my King," and it is all over for the Lannisters. Cersei will try to finish the job in assassinating Bran that she failed to do in Season one.
 
Robert Never married Lyanna, she was promised to him but they at no point married.

It's pretty Obvious Jon is made to be Rhaegars Son as the Implications of that are massive.
 
Sanji Himura
My dad thinks otherwise. He thinks that Jon is Robert's son by his first wife, Lyanna, whereas Cersei was his second wife. Ned had to take Jon as his bastard to protect him from Cersei's wrath, and securing a path of succession for her incestuous children. There is no real legitimization needed.
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There's a massive hole in your dad's theory, namely why would Aerys's Kingsguard protect a usurper's wife?

Having read elsewhere that Tywin and Aerys were childhood friends, I'm warming a bit to the "Tyrion is Aerys's bastard" theory, just to give Tywin more of a motivation for aligning with Robert.
 
I guess they need subtitles "3 months earlier", "2 weeks earlier", so on, you can understand that you are seeing the story from a persons view & that time lines don't match up. No one is moving around faster than others. The time lines will become less of a strain for you as the far flung group is all coming back together now. Varys had to get from Mereen to Dorne, & the queen of thorns from Highgarden to Dorne. Arya from Bravos to the twins, didn't happen in days. I can't understand how people have this confusion about the timeline...
 
I'm making a prediction on the current location of Jorah Mormont in the HBO production based on numerous clues about greyscale that I've picked up reading the books and studying the legends.

Jorah is in Dorne. This is where the descendants of the Rhoynar eventually migrated and settled after losing a horrific war against Valyria. One of the weapons the Rhoynar, a river civilization, used in desperation and revenge against the dragon lords, was the precursor to greyscale which they sent downriver as a poison in the water. If anyone on Planetos knows greyscale and its treatment, it would be the Dornish - well known to be experts in all poisons.
 
Dotini
I'm making a prediction on the current location of Jorah Mormont in the HBO production based on numerous clues about greyscale that I've picked up reading the books and studying the legends.

Jorah is in Dorne. This is where the descendants of the Rhoynar eventually migrated and settled after losing a horrific war against Valyria. One of the weapons the Rhoynar, a river civilization, used in desperation and revenge against the dragon lords, was the precursor to greyscale which they sent downriver as a poison in the water. If anyone on Planetos knows greyscale and its treatment, it would be the Dornish - well known to be experts in all poisons.
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Possibly, I'm hoping he travels further east towards Asshai, the Red Priests might have a cure, at the very least we will get to see more of the GoT world :)
 
TheCracker
Surely you mean Skyrim's fast travel - dragons are far more GoT then deathclaws ;)
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Actually, the Rose Road was upgraded to a six-lane, expressway-grade thoroughfare, with a narrow toll bridge at The Twins.

In all seriousness, the books manage to use much of the travel time in between chapters to explain details of personalities, feelings, thoughts, families, lands, history, clothing, hair styles, and of course...food. Much of that doesn't need to be re-described in the visual medium of TV/movies, although it does give really good insight into some of the gaps.

This season was much better than the fifth, but maybe that's because I had no idea what was going to happen.

Thoughts:

Davos Seaworth (Liam Cunningham) needs an award for his acting for this season. Hail the Onion King!

Is it wrong that I agreed with Septon Ray (Ep.7) but felt a tremendous release at Ramsay Bolton getting punched 287 times? At one point, I swear Jon Snow got a 1UP tone.

Five seasons of searching for Benjen Stark, and we see him for three minutes. I feel cheated.

Cersei goes nuclear...Holy hell. We'll see how much she enjoys her rule with an estranged brother in the Queens Guard.

Arya can buy first class accommodations.

Hodor was the original Owen Meeney. Never felt truly sad for any characters in this show until then.
 
Here is that incredible musical score from the opening scene of season 7, episode 10. Light of the Seven by Ramin Djwadi.
 
The season premiere was watched legally on HBO by 16 million people. FBN reports 90 million around the world viewed pirated versions.
 
Dotini
The season premiere was watched legally on HBO by 16 million people. FBN reports 90 million around the world viewed pirated versions.
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There are other legal ways of watching it without watching it through HBO you know.
 
Spurgy 777
There are other legal ways of watching it without watching it through HBO you know.
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Either way, the show is wildly poplar. Too bad it has to end!

Or does it? Spin-offs are said to be in the works, but by different competing producers.
 
So what's everyone think of the season so far?

Glad that one person's army has been taken down a few pegs, as the way it looked that army was going zerg dominate everyone.
 
Infinital-NG
So what's everyone think of the season so far?

Glad that one person's army has been taken down a few pegs, as the way it looked that army was going zerg dominate everyone.
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This season has an exceptionally fast pace, but I think still touches on all the key points. Which is good, since the producers are out on their own with the writing details, a ways ahead of the books.

300 some-odd years earlier, Aegon Targaryen successfully invaded Westeros with three dragons and an army from Dragonstone, himself riding Balerion the Dread (skull now graced with a bolt from Qyburn's ballista) and his sisters the other two. There was great resistance and much blood was shed. Poor little Dany, inexperienced and no riders for her two other "children", has now lost her Small Council, most of her navy and her Unsullied now seem trapped! She needs dragonriders, and soon! But who? Jon and Tyrion?
 
Season is okay thus far. The timeline is all over the place, with stuff that realistically should take years, happening in 5 minutes of screen time.

Daenerys is more arrogant, entitled and self righteous than ever, and her team is showing a shocking lack of knowledge on the most basic military planning. Maybe, just maybe, it'd be a good idea to not let Euron's navy go unchallenged. Not setting up a naval blockade of King's Landing Bay has got to be the biggest oversight of any commander throughout the entire show. And just like Robb, team Dany places far too much value on Casterly Rock, and are now paying the price for it. Frankly, when you make this many mistakes, you deserve to lose. Team Cersie seems to be having a much too easy time tbh, and I'm still baffled at how Euron has managed to assemble such a large navy in so little time. However, he's responsible for taking out the Dornish pests, so for that, he has my eternal gratitude.

The Martyll's went out entirely too easy considering how big and wealthy their house is supposed to be
 
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Episode 4 will make up for everything, and I'm not saying this because I have watched the leaked episode.

I swear.
 
mustafur
Episode 4 will make up for everything, and I'm not saying this because I have watched the leaked episode.

I swear.
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I just had a leaked scene pop up in my YouTube recommended with a big spoiler in the title :( Some people are :censored:s.
 
Spurgy 777
I just had a leaked scene pop up in my YouTube recommended with a big spoiler in the title :( Some people are :censored:s.
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Game of thrones is the worst show when it comes to spoilers, everyone watches it and everyone seems to want to ruin it for those that haven't seen the latest episode yet.
 
Jawehawk
Season is okay thus far. The timeline is all over the place, with stuff that realistically should take years, happening in 5 minutes of screen time.

Daenerys is more arrogant and self entitled than ever, and her team is showing a shocking lack of knowledge on the most basic military planning. Maybe, just maybe, it'd be a good idea to not let Euron's navy go unchallenged. Not setting up a naval blockade of King's Landing Bay has got to be the biggest oversight of any commander throughout the entire show. And just like Robb, team Dany places far too much value on Casterly Rock, and are now paying the price for it. Frankly, when you make this many mistakes, you deserve to lose. Team Cersie seems to be having a much too easy time tbh, and I'm still baffled at how Euron has managed to assembly such a large navy in so little time. However, he's responsible for taking out the Dornish pests, so for that, he has my eternal gratitude.

The Martyll's went out entirely too easy considering how big and wealthy their house is supposed to be
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The show's fast pace this season is in part due to the travel times being foreshortened. The distance from Winterfell to King's Landing (or Dragonstone) is 1000 leagues (~3000 miles), and the size of Westeros is roughly that of South America, even though it vaguely resembles the outlines of Britain.

If I recall, in the books the Martells can call their banners to the tune of 40,000-80,000 men, depending on how long they want to/can afford to stay away from their farms and holdfasts. But as we all know, the show and the books diverged along the way.
 
Dotini
The show's fast pace this season is in part due to the travel times being foreshortened. The distance from Winterfell to King's Landing (or Dragonstone) is 1000 leagues (~3000 miles), and the size of Westeros is roughly that of South America, even though it vaguely resembles the outlines of Britain.

If I recall, in the books the Martells can call their banners to the tune of 40,000-80,000 men, depending on how long they want to/can afford to stay away from their farms and holdfasts. But as we all know, the show and the books diverged along the way.
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Sorry, I meant the Tyrell's, not the Martell's. So many names to keep track of. I don't really know much of House Martell, as the show has failed in epic proportions to establish their house, lands and important people. Oberyn was the only good thing to come from them. The Tyrell's, however, were established as the only true rival to the Lannisters, which makes on wonder just how they were so easily defeated. I get the defection of Randyll Tarly, a brilliant military commander, was a severe blow to the Tyrell's, but they just seemed to go down way too easily.

Another interesting little detail in the story is why the navies transporting the Unsullied, Lady Olenna, and the the Dornish and Greyjoy's weren't all travelling together. They'd all have to travel south from Dragonstone, so I'm curious as to how they all seemed to have travelled separately. The Unsullied would've been a powerful escort unit for the Greyjoy fleet, which would've been severely understrength in order to have enough room to transport the Dornish army to King's Landing.

As for time jumping. The show has always done this, but season 7 has taken it to a whole new level.
 
Some thoughts.

- Bronn is literally a god.
- The scene where Tyrion reflects on the consequences of his actions as the battle rages is brilliant.
- Cool to see how the Dorthraki fight. They are savages, and they must all die, but cool nonetheless.
- Dragons are evil. Cool, but evil. If we didn't need them for the White Walkers, I'd say they needed to be eliminated too.
- Brandon continues to suck, although the scene with Little Finger was pretty cool.
- Little Finger is dying this season. I'm calling it.
- On the negative side, more weird time skipping.
 
Last episode was so damn good..
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Jawehawk
Some thoughts.

- Bronn is literally a god.
- The scene where Tyrion reflects on the consequences of his actions as the battle rages is brilliant.
- Cool to see how the Dorthraki fight. They are savages, and they must all die, but cool nonetheless.
- Dragons are evil. Cool, but evil. If we didn't need them for the White Walkers, I'd say they needed to be eliminated too.
- Brandon continues to suck, although the scene with Little Finger was pretty cool.
- Little Finger is dying this season. I'm calling it.
- On the negative side, more weird time skipping.
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Time jumping really wasn't a thing in episode 4, Sure they moved the Lannister army quick but nothing suggests everything is done on the same day, for instance Dany would of been close to kings landing where the attack happened which isn't far from Dragonstone as the gold had made it to Kings Landing yet in the first scene you see Jamie packing it from Highgarden, meaning at best they are not that far behind.
 
Episode 4, "The Spoils of War", IMO the most entertaining 50 minutes of TV ever broadcast!! Woohoo, geek out on dragons, cowboys and Indians, and Arya pretending to be be Inigo Montoya.
 

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