Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[tothesz]

I found PDs communication guy no wonder we get no communication.

Naaah, don't hurt him. He told us everything he knew about what's in PD's head.

 

[Doncarlone]

I found PDs communication guy no wonder we get no communication.

Spot on.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Right. And they're high profile because we hear about them.

The chances of Polyphony having done a similar thing and nobody having said anything are not zero, but they're pretty low. Not just that, their Careers page is (as usual) full of open ads for just about every role at the company. Unusual, if you're trying to downsize like has been the case for the other major layoffs.

Not impossible, but to quote myself - "...sort of unlikely."

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As an aside and not related to this conversation, I noticed while I was there that on their Careers page there isn't any jobs that are obvious candidates for "the person that what writes the campaign missions and stuff". Which is sort of interesting.

On their Part Time work page they have this:

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For those who can't read Japanese, the job description says pretty much exactly what you'd expect - provide support for producing racing events for the Gran Turismo series. If anyone is inclined to apply, be warned that they value this role at the princely sum of 1800 yen an hour. About US$14.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am a little. I hoped that there was an explanation for the lack of structured career and events that wasn't "we went cheap on the people who were doing the work".

I think that the Careers section on their website is actually not being maintained and years out of date. The fact that nothing ever seems to be changing is a clear indication of that. This offerings page for an Application Programmer even shows a screenshot from Gran Turismo 6, a game from two generations ago. At the beginning of last year I was thinking about switching career paths and thought, "Heck, why not apply to PD as well?" Amsterdam is relatively close to where I live in Germany, so I applied for a position at their GT Explore Studio there. I only got an automated response from them, telling me that the evaluation process would take 2-3 weeks. The response also included an instruction to inquire at an @sony.com email address, should I not get a response in that time. When the three weeks were up, I did just that. And again: No response whatsoever (not even an automated one), which would be a really unprofessional thing to do, especially for a company of that size. I also remember doing a bit of research beforehand and reading a post by @MIE1992, where he said that he applied for the exact same position at their Los Angeles office. Perhaps he can explain if he's had a similar experience.

Seeing how PD is part of Playstation Studios, I believe their job offerings are actually being handled via Careers at SIE. They definitely list Amsterdam and LA as working locations. Of course I don't know this for sure but everything I've seen so far points to the fact that the Jobs section of their website is actually dead.

 

[OldandSlow]

The $14/hour wage explains alot, giving us a clue into future update content.

 

[Galvston]

I would do it for free too. Emulate some real race series, with the right tracks and liveries

 

[FluxWildly]

I would do it for free too. Emulate some real race series, with the right tracks and liveries

Yeah there is so much potential and missed opportunities on PDs part even with the dailies and time trials that where there could be real world races incorporated at corresponding times of the year (Nurb 24h, Spa 24h, Bathurst, Daytona etc)

 

[benjoi84]

The January update has already arrived, didn't you know?

It's dynamic weather in Daily Races. That's it.

 

[Imari]

I think that the Careers section on their website is actually not being maintained and years out of date. The fact that nothing ever seems to be changing is a clear indication of that. This offerings page for an Application Programmer even shows a screenshot from Gran Turismo 6, a game from two generations ago. At the beginning of last year I was thinking about switching career paths and thought, "Heck, why not apply to PD as well?" Amsterdam is relatively close to where I live in Germany, so I applied for a position at their GT Explore Studio there. I only got an automated response from them, telling me that the evaluation process would take 2-3 weeks. The response also included an instruction to inquire at an @sony.com email address, should I not get a response in that time. When the three weeks were up, I did just that. And again: No response whatsoever (not even an automated one), which would be a really unprofessional thing to do, especially for a company of that size. I also remember doing a bit of research beforehand and reading a post by @MIE1992, where he said that he applied for the exact same position at their Los Angeles office. Perhaps he can explain if he's had a similar experience.

Seeing how PD is part of Playstation Studios, I believe their job offerings are actually being handled via Careers at SIE. They definitely list Amsterdam and LA as working locations. Of course I don't know this for sure but everything I've seen so far points to the fact that the Jobs section of their website is actually dead.

Sounds like a reasonable assessment, you're almost certainly right. Although it's not a great look for the developer of an always online game that they can't keep their own website up to date.

I swear I'd do it for free. Same with being PD's dedicated one-man communications team.

I'd do it for free, but I need pesky things like food and shelter.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Sounds like a reasonable assessment, you're almost certainly right. Although it's not a great look for the developer of an always online game that they can't keep their own website up to date.

Never mind the always online thing, they're sending potential talent down a month-long false trail and leaving it to them to figure out what they did wrong. For a business, that's a failure on a much more fundamental level. Especially when all they would have to do is put up a link to SIE Careers.

 

[dkstz]

Hi.

Does anyone know the numbers, or a guesstimate of how many players are in each DR rank?

Thanks!

 

[Nielsen]

Unless we get a maintenance notice tomorrow, I’m beginning to suspect that new content will arrive next week and with silhouettes being teased this coming weekend. This would make it a February update but arriving so early that it makes little difference to the update pattern. Then VR could arriver later in the month without any new cars and events. Just speculating here.

 

[GlamFM]

Unless we get a maintenance notice tomorrow, I’m beginning to suspect that new content will arrive next week and with silhouettes being teased this coming weekend. This would make it a February update but arriving so early that it makes little difference to the update pattern. Then VR could arriver later in the month without any new cars and events. Just speculating here.

I think it makes a ton of sense to consolidate these two hypothetical updates.

 

[Nielsen]

I think it makes a ton of sense to consolidate these two hypothetical updates.

I don’t think so. VR is a complicated undertaking and a pretty big deal. PD would be better off implementing it without other distractions.

 

[hyperspeed980]

Unless we get a maintenance notice tomorrow, I’m beginning to suspect that new content will arrive next week and with silhouettes being teased this coming weekend. This would make it a February update but arriving so early that it makes little difference to the update pattern. Then VR could arriver later in the month without any new cars and events. Just speculating here.

I really hope you're right, but also...

 

[Stefan Clift]

Taken from the Daytona 24hr test this year, but visually speaking this image looks like it’s taken from Gran Turismo 7!

But that Porsche 963 would be nice wouldn’t it…

 

[Nathan88]

Unless we get a maintenance notice tomorrow, I’m beginning to suspect that new content will arrive next week and with silhouettes being teased this coming weekend. This would make it a February update but arriving so early that it makes little difference to the update pattern. Then VR could arriver later in the month without any new cars and events. Just speculating here.

Even if the press only get their hands on PS VR2 a week before release, that means all software and updates need to be ready for Feb 15th. That's assuming all the launch titles will be ready for the press to review. So realistically a little over 2 weeks to be ready.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Do you guys think pd should remove rain from races like the 1 hour of spa? I done this race around 14 times now in the last 2 days and half and only 1 times had it not rain. In my experience rain make the race super easy cause the rain just catches there ai with there pants down every single time.

If not remove it but at least limit it in how many times it happens.

The ai just doesn't know what rain is.

 

[Nielsen]

Even if the press only get their hands on PS VR2 a week before release, that means all software and updates need to be ready for Feb 15th. That's assuming all the launch titles will be ready for the press to review. So realistically a little over 2 weeks to be ready.

Your point being?

 

[Nebuc72]

Do you guys think pd should remove rain from races like the 1 hour of spa? I done this race around 14 times now in the last 2 days and half and only 1 times had it not rain. In my experience rain make the race super easy cause the rain just catches there ai with there pants down every single time.

If not remove it but at least limit it in how many times it happens.

The ai just doesn't know what rain is.

What, no, absolutely not? Why would I ever want them to remove weather lol.

The race is easy anyway. Blame the AI, not the dynamic weather system that actually works.

 

[appu]

The ai just doesn't know what rain is.

Wait. We are supposed to avoid overtaking these cars? I've been overtaking those cars during yellow flag while still maintaining clean race bonus. I just avoid overtaking cars who are on track and pointing in right direction.

And then there was one time when I accidentally overtook an opponent just after yellow flag started because I was at much higher speed than the opponent and I applied full brakes as soon as yellow flag started. Still maintained clean race bonus.

As for your topic, I am torn. I absolutely love the rain but it is indeed abysmal how AI just falls apart in rain.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

What, no, absolutely not? Why would I ever want them to remove weather lol.

The race is easy anyway. Blame the AI, not the dynamic weather system that actually works.

Agree not remove it but at least limit it.

Wait. We are supposed to avoid overtaking these cars? I've been overtaking those cars during yellow flag while still maintaining clean race bonus. I just avoid overtaking cars who are on track and pointing in right direction.

And then there was one time when I accidentally overtook an opponent just after yellow flag started because I was at much higher speed than the opponent and I applied full brakes as soon as yellow flag started. Still maintained clean race bonus.

As for your topic, I am torn. I absolutely love the rain but it is indeed abysmal how AI just falls apart in rain.

From what I know yes you can pass the car that cost the yellow flag you just cant pass the other cars.

In that gif I didn't pass cause I didn't have any room and I didn't wanna get a exceeding track limit penalty.

 

[Neris__]

Do you guys think pd should remove rain from races like the 1 hour of spa? I done this race around 14 times now in the last 2 days and half and only 1 times had it not rain. In my experience rain make the race super easy cause the rain just catches there ai with there pants down every single time.

If not remove it but at least limit it in how many times it happens.

The ai just doesn't know what rain is.

This deserves to be in this thread https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...e-whats-really-changed-for-the-better.415902/ xD

This is so bad and at the same time sad and funny that PD didn't fix it for so long. I forgot how bad AI is in this game on the tracks with rain.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

Right. And they're high profile because we hear about them.

The chances of Polyphony having done a similar thing and nobody having said anything are not zero, but they're pretty low. Not just that, their Careers page is (as usual) full of open ads for just about every role at the company. Unusual, if you're trying to downsize like has been the case for the other major layoffs.

Not impossible, but to quote myself - "...sort of unlikely."

==========

As an aside and not related to this conversation, I noticed while I was there that on their Careers page there isn't any jobs that are obvious candidates for "the person that what writes the campaign missions and stuff". Which is sort of interesting.

On their Part Time work page they have this:

View attachment 1225196
For those who can't read Japanese, the job description says pretty much exactly what you'd expect - provide support for producing racing events for the Gran Turismo series. If anyone is inclined to apply, be warned that they value this role at the princely sum of 1800 yen an hour. About US$14.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am a little. I hoped that there was an explanation for the lack of structured career and events that wasn't "we went cheap on the people who were doing the work".

I don't know what to do with this information... if the listing is current, part of me thinks "Dear PD, here is my resumé, attached are some Endurance Custom Race parameters I've already tested and an outline of a few hundred other events.

The other part of me is worried that the position is already filled, poor Race Event Planning Assistant-san has the weight of the world on their shoulders, and the recent "2 laps of Nordschleife for 25,000Cr" event is a protest/cry for help.



But what if it is?

 

[tankuroded]

With the employment/workplace talk earlier: Has anyone thought about any potential workplace-related issues (crunch, etc) within PD?

 

[Nathan88]

It's great when there's competition between developers, I'm sure the new Forza Motorsport will push PD. What's increasingly clear is we aren't going to get big generational leaps forward. I was expecting to be blown away, but there's some very mediocre lighting and car modelling in this trailer. Extremely limited details on physics, race features, and so on. More to come tomorrow.

No release date is also disappointing, GT7 will have been on the market for 18 months.

500+ cars at launch

20+ racing environments

 

[Nebuc72]

It's great when there's competition between developers, I'm sure the new Forza Motorsport will push PD. What's increasingly clear is we aren't going to get big generational leaps forward. I was expecting to be blown away, but there's some very meiocre lighting and car modelling in this trailer. Extremely limited details on physics, race features, and so on. More to come tomorrow.

No release date is also disappointing, GT7 will have been on the market for 18 months.

Nice to see the GT-ONE in a game again. I hope GT brings it back soon enough.

To be honest if FM launches with iconic GT cars that not even GT has, there'll be a bit of egg on PD's face.

 

[juanffy18]

Nice to see the GT-ONE in a game again. I hope GT brings it back soon enough.

To be honest if FM launches with iconic GT cars that not even GT has, there'll be a bit of egg on PD's face.

This is sad, how this car is not in GT7 right now

 

[MidnightRun85]

Nice to see the GT-ONE in a game again. I hope GT brings it back soon enough.

To be honest if FM launches with iconic GT cars that not even GT has, there'll be a bit of egg on PD's face.

I've already got the GT One....

 

[RACECAR]

Folks really acting like PD will care that much when it never made a difference before. You enjoy what you are seeing so far with Forza Motorsport, cool. But let's stop acting because finally a mainline Forza game is coming this year that PD better act fast, because that has never happened the entire time Forza existed and I see no signs that it suddenly will now.

 

[juanffy18]

Folks really acting like PD will care that much when it never made a difference before. You enjoy what you are seeing so far with Forza Motorsport, cool. But let's stop acting because a finally a mainline Forza game is coming this year that PD better act fast, because that has never happened the entire time Forza existed and I see no signs that it suddenly will now.

PD being PD never really cares about the competitors, GT sells 3 o 4 more than any other racing game excepting Mario Kart and this is one of the problems